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Please, reduce Legion’s stun.

It’s miserable.

4 seconds of stun and blindness from using a POWER is UNFUN and PAINFUL af.

It is the main and only serious issue with them.

Make 3 seconds stun. Julie’s Mix Tape, Joe’s Mix Tape and Cold Dirt increase movement speed in Frenzy or make them prevent Legion from fatigue after missed attack.

Please, don’t ignore.

Comments

  • TimeMonster
    TimeMonster Member Posts: 152

    they already said - it was made so killer won't be able to just - hit in FF and then turn of FF and hit a normal hit.

    But i do agree - that Cold Dirt was redusing stun for 1 sec was better that 0.25 right now

  • FJSJ_Lunar
    FJSJ_Lunar Member Posts: 230

    JuST rUn CoLd DiRt 4head

  • BadMrFrosty
    BadMrFrosty Member Posts: 1,100

    Legion's stun is 4 seconds, so clearly it's as good as Nurse's power, right? Surely it's not just a grossly excessive period of inaction for an underwhelming ability. Right? RIGHT!? SAY SOMETHING.

  • Aztreonam78
    Aztreonam78 Member Posts: 1,131

    It doesn’t justify the 4 seconds stun and weakness of fatigue reducing addons which should be reworked in completely different (extra speed in Frenzy?).

    And with even less than 2 seconds stun Legion will not catch survivors quickly if they are on position.

  • Biggs
    Biggs Member Posts: 286
    edited January 2020

    little legion tip... if you wanna reduce his cd from 4 to 2 sec just let survivor stun you with pallet.. yes you ll loose ff but who cares.. thats the best tactic :)


    but yes legion needs not buff but rework... lets see if legion is still annoying to play AGAINST right devs ?...

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,390

    Like they're reducing the Doctor's cooldown on the PTB from 3 seconds to some lower number (Idk what the exact number is, they didn't announced yet), and 4 second stun for a Killer that can't down a Survivor while in their power is ok? I don't think so, they should reduce the stun to 3 seconds and rework the stun addons, maybe make them not stack or just rework them.

  • TKTK
    TKTK Member Posts: 943

    Woah friend, you better take a seat and wait another 2 years.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Yes but i feel 3 seconds will still prevent that from happening

  • BadMrFrosty
    BadMrFrosty Member Posts: 1,100

    Their stats are not and have never been a good measure for any sort of metric regarding killer/survivor performance. There's too many variables that go unmeasured for that information to be valuable. Also, one of the developers (Peanits) mentioned that this data shouldn't be taken to heart somewhere on this form (too lazy to look for it).

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    The stun is not the issue of legion, even if you use cold dirt and joes mixtape, against a good survivor who will find save spots easily you will keep chasing him for years.

    As I tell almost everyone... the problem of legion is not frenzy speed, stun or whatever. Legion needs a ability to KILL or make frenzy a lethal ability somehow. Doesnt matter which of those but frenzy on itsself is actually fine, legion NEEEDS something to end chases faster by downing!

  • TKTK
    TKTK Member Posts: 943

    I like how devs say the stats don't matter and don't drive them in regards to balance but when it's convenient they'll pull them up to fit the narrative that the legion change was a "buff", either the stats matter or they don't. I personally don't pay any attention to stats but you people do you.

  • BadMrFrosty
    BadMrFrosty Member Posts: 1,100

    Just let Legion down survivors without the deep wounds status using his power. That way he doesn't waste basic m1 attacks and it gives survivors a reason to heal against him (as well as giving him a choice as to whether or not he wants a free first hit or down after a basic m1). Hell, billy would likely still end up being better.

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917
    edited January 2020

    They say the data shouldn't be taken seriously but also recently tried to paragon legion's ~0.5% monthly kill rate increase as a testimate of how much the legion changed buffed him.

    If the devs only applies that logic selectively its fair to say the devs aren't worth believing when it comes down to the data and any statements on it.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,345

    The Stun is one thing that should be changed about Legion. The rest is always something to think about, because nobody wants Legion to become as unfun as they were before. Like not being out of Frenzy when missing an attack is something I would highly disagree with, there was nothing more boring and stupid than someone missing like 5 Hits just to get number 6 in, because there was no Punishment.

    However, the Stun of 4 Seconds is stimply stupid. It is a sign to change that, when you see that Legion players try to get stunned by a Pallet instead of going into their Frenzy Stun, because the Pallet Stun is not as punishing as the Frenzy Stun.

  • Liruliniel
    Liruliniel Member Posts: 3,047

    You say that, but literally every argument with a survivor main happens to be "the stats say this" so I saved this to screw with people.

  • DeathBeam
    DeathBeam Member Posts: 259

    Honestly Legion should just be removed from the game at this point before they find another way to nerf them.

  • PrettyFaceKate
    PrettyFaceKate Member Posts: 1,776

    Legion: please, reduce our stun.

    Nurse: kids, nowadays. They always want it easy.

  • Talmeer
    Talmeer Member Posts: 1,520

    This stun is one of 2 stupid stuns Legion has to suffer with.

    Imo, since Legion has no lethal second power anymore (aka. no old dw), there is no reason for those stuns.

    For me, this is more a quality of life, or fun question as a balance question, because I don't know how Legion could be op without a vital dw.

    So... Devs... You can push the Legion without fearing any danger. Give us some quality of life patches, so that the fun rises a bit for Legion players.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    I was gonna say take 2 seconds off but even 1 would be nice.

    2 seconds off alone and nothing else would immediately make him much more viable.

  • mkshockter4
    mkshockter4 Member Posts: 7

    I think Legion should be the next killer to get a rework. I actually really like the look of legion and the idea of it but it's just so horrible to play as

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    I use enduring and try to bait pallet stuns, although it's ridiculous that the cooldown is so punishing it takes methods like that. Feeling like you spend half the match stunned is just frustrating.

  • Predator3174PL
    Predator3174PL Member Posts: 302

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Oh wait are you seriously asking THEM to buff Legion? Some of the hope you have…

  • Tohmo
    Tohmo Member Posts: 250

    Fun fact: If you use enduring, and end Feral Frenzy just before you get pallet stunned, it ends the stun super quick.

  • Negi
    Negi Member Posts: 378

    The stun length is ridiculous (could be reduced to 3) but even more so than that, there is 0 point to hit a target with feral frenzy when they've got deep wounds (those add-ons suck, don't even). It should do something, obviously not reduce the timer as that was cancer in the past but couldn't we get like a drastically reduced stun (like 1 second)? It would flow a lot better and survivors would still get a decent amount of distance due to the sprint burst effect of being hit.

  • Negi
    Negi Member Posts: 378
    edited January 2020

    Accidental double post?

    Post edited by Negi on
  • ppo8820
    ppo8820 Member Posts: 763

    Why do people play legion? He seems so boring to play and play against. Im not being rude I genuinely want to know what the appeal is?

  • Negi
    Negi Member Posts: 378

    It's fun to stab people. You get a stab, and you get a stab, everybody gets a stab!

  • Talmeer
    Talmeer Member Posts: 1,520
    edited January 2020

    Well, I can't talk for everyone, but for me because:

    -I like their story.

    -I like to play a fast moving, but not teleporting killer with a knife.

    -I still remember on the good old days and the memories of the old Legion let me forget some of the annoying things on the new one. At least sometimes I can forget them because of those memories.