General Discussions
General Discussions
Lot of banning going on with forum accounts lately
anyone else notice a lot more people with BANNED icons popping up. Silencing folks in a time like this seems to be the incorrect way to handle dissatisfied customers
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If they cannot behave...
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How does one get banned here?
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By not following the forum rules https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/87004/forum-rules
I think a lot of warnings at least are given out for "making light of serious issues" (see the rules), but I expect a lot of bans come from getting into a heated argument with another forum member. You'll notice a lot of disrespectful and derogatory posts that lack anything constructive, or one member specifically targeting another member and "calling them out" for whatever reason (which is a no-no, even if you're right). Accusing a member of anything publicly isn't taken well; if you think they're posting bait, ignore it; if you think they're using an alt account, flag it; use the official means to report cheaters; etc.
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What do you mean every single person knows that blocking feedback is the way to go
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I can ensure you that it has nothing to do with censorship. There are plenty of people here who are voicing concerns and giving negative feedback. The difference is whether or not it's being done in a civil and constructive way or if they're insulting people. This goes for people who defend our decisions as well; insulting the people criticizing us is not okay. Negative feedback is welcome, but that's not a green light to attack people. We can all share our thoughts without attacking each other.
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They ignore it, but I haven't really shown any signs of censorship I wouldn't jump to that conclusion.
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After a change as big a Ruin I'd imagine there would be a lot of people with interesting words to give to BHVR.
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Preety sure there's a preety small group agreeing with your changes. And there survivor mains.
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Something to add:
Most likely the posts which lead to a Ban are not visible anymore because they either got moved to an archive or were deleted straight away.
This can also lead to some confusion why certain people are banned.
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DBD: 1984 edition.
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Obviously more people will "cross the line" when controversial changes get announced and people are passionate about what's happening.
From fairly understandable heated arguements going a little too far when people are passionate enough, to legitimately ascended garbage like justifying/encouraging review bombing or just mindlessly attacking BHVR in a way that's far from constructive.
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just because Im paranoid doesn't mean people aren't watching me :O
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They're definitely not visible, anymore. Even posts that just get the member sent a warning are removed.
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I reported a post that was just a hate filled rant with some choice words that really weren't needed. The whole thread got removed.
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I like the way you put it. Pretty much what I was gonna say.
It makes perfect sense to me that there's a lot of people getting banned when there's constantly people recently trying to bypass the language filter, and insulting each other, and constantly commenting with completely irrelevant things, and trying to start arguments with people, and just generally being children. There's still plenty of people complaining about things they're unhappy with, me being one of them, and I haven't been bothered. I doubt a lot of other people complaining civilly have been bothered either.
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As a PSA the term "Willful Ignorance" is deemed as an insult "You're saying so and so is ignorant" even "though the term was originally—and still is—used in legal contexts, the phrase "willful ignorance" has come to mean any situation in which people intentionally turn their attention away from an ethical problem that is believed to be important by those using the phrase (for instance, because the problem is too disturbing for people to want it dominating their thoughts, or from the knowledge that solving the problem would require extensive effort)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willful_blindness
I expect to be banned before March lol
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Considering how internet is, I bet some BHVR devs already had the chance to learn ... Interesting facts about their families 🤣
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Feedback and criticism is fine.
Harassing and threatening the developers is not fine.
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ummmhmmm. /s
I know why you give people titles... just so you can allow them to jebait when you bring them up. (As with my post)
When I first came to the forum I loved that person and how they thought about matters... even defended them before... but yeah nothing they did was productive and it just attempted to shadow major problems with BVHR rn which don’t pretend doesn’t exist right now.
If you have no adversaries you create silence... period. And you removed adversaries and people were agree’ing with my post and how I responded my friend.
Just get behaviour to do the right thing... I don’t main killer and I know what they’re going to be going through - especially the people who don’t play this game 24/7 with a full time job etc. You’re being unfair to them.
There’s going to be a killer shortage at rank 1 if there’s nothing for them to ease the stress.
This is all assuming you accept that your playerbase is likely above age of 18+ or whatever the game is rated.
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Definitely see a vibe of this to a degree mainly by some very acquainted followers of DBD in the “title” sense... hope it gets changed around here... it doesn’t feel like everyone is getting treated like competent people.
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The devs aren’t the problem... the problem stems higher up and what’s also not fine is for them not being sure everyone can enjoy the game without a great deal of stress.
I’m a competitive player but it in a way I’m just caring about the casual player that’s tried their best to be competitive with the time they have if they so choose to take the route.
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Anyone see yourself in this case?
Just the same as you pay the game and demand everything and insult if the game doesnt turned out to your liking, like the Devs are your grooms.
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Wouldn't it depend if you were using it as an insult, tho? Developmentally delayed is a medical term but depending on the context can be insulting. Are you claiming that you were having a discussion about the law with somebody? Or did you use a legal term as an insult?
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I feel like people who get warnings or bans probably deserve it most of the time. I'm not exactly the nicest person on these forums and I haven't received a warning. Maybe I've slipped under the radar, though..
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Careful, using the term "willful ignorance" will get you jai...oh wait.
There's no way to use the term and have it be positive - but observing it as a behavior is not an insult, especially when it's blatantly represented by the people being criticized for exhibiting said behavior.
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Few friends have gotten banned for stating the developers didn't play their own game and/or were bad at it.
Which they are. But we don't talk about that.
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Speaking of not talking about things...
I read an old thread about people being shadow banned not too long ago. It was a thread from September of 2018 as a matter of fact. I only read it cause it was listed that it had a reply..but strangely enough even though the thread listing said it had a reply, the reply was missing when I went into the actual thread.
It was deleted in the last week, along with a much newer thread asking about shadow banning...issue is, if you google "dead by daylight forum shadow ban", it's still the first in the search results...click the link and the thread no longer exists. That's how you know it was deleted recently. It's placement in the search rankings.
Basically, shadow banning is when you are set to "private" in so many words. You can read posts, and in theory still post, but nobody can see your content except you, and they more or less bank on the fact that you don't notice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning
Here's a picture of the search results (save this link!):
https://gyazo.com/e16f56038259d39cb954050920bd8d3f
Here's a link to a thread of it actually happening to someone:
Sure, you could call it a "bug"...but I feel like it's far too convenient.
It tends to feel like that actively try to silence/get rid of that which makes them look, well...that which matches their Behavior.
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I know multiple people who have suffered the same fate, it does definitely exist and it wouldn't surprise me if these posts get deleted or a mod goes "Actually we don't do that." When multiple people have claimed they do in fact do that.
But I'm just an entitled killer main, so obviously im making stuff up because I'm angry about the Ruin change.
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its just been a lot more bans than usual on here i would imagine. the game has great qualities, but seems as if it just lacks a direction, and instead of responding to the community with something like
"WE NEED TO REMOVE RUIN IN ORDER TO GET A BASELINE ON WHAT GAMES WILL LOOK LIKE WITHOUT IT SO WE CAN QUICKLY TAKE MORE ACTION FOR BETTER GAME BALANCE."
.. but we don't hear anything because they take forever in terms of balance adjustments; where as in games like league of legends they are CONSTANTLY changing the meta and balancing/rebalancing.. because at the end of the day balance is basically whack a mole with the stuff that ends up rising to the surface
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Indeed.
Instead of hearing something like what you said...we hear "We need to bork ruin so it's not so hard for new survivors". Honestly - whoever writes their PR notes needs to be sent back to customer retention training immediately. They could have alleviated a LOT of this had they worded it correctly, because the way they worded it may as well have been a giant ascii picture of a middle finger to killers.
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While I'd love to talk about it and share the deleted post since I have an image of it, that's against the rules.
Let's just say that the context of the post was ignored just like our calls for balance lol
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I can actually confirm. I had a very similar experience. Actually, literally the same experience.
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BHVR would never purposefully ignore their playbase haha, right guys?
Oh wait, Ruin is still being changed, nevermind.
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if you actually did something with out negative feedback it would be one thing, but we give our negative feed back AND NOTHING CHANGES.
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Indeed.
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Majority of the people who are banned deserve it.
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Questionable, but good to know you've seen everyone's ban reason.
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This is so so true.
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I would like to clarify that people are not just banned for "insulting" others...
People were banned for "policing the forums".
Making "jokes" -that was non-harmful to anyone else or threatening or insulting etc. Such as accused of making a "bait" thread... it was a joke and they were accused of trying to anger people basically. Things in that nature as well.
Edit: Oh right. And the people that get banned for "going around" the profanity filter, when they type in the word exactly how it is spelled (aka not going around it at all, it's just a forum fail that they didn't add it to the filter). But nope. ban.
So, it's not just "insults"... And it's not that "simple" either.
I'll be honest I see people, many, getting away with insulting others, even when reported and nothing happens. I do tend to notice people being more critical are the ones to get "gone" first.
I also notice "bugs" that occur on these forums. But it seems very convenient... Along with many posts get magically deleted.
It does seem like sometimes "mods" have an agenda... (this is noted when "mods" go back in people's history to "tag" on things for ban reasoning's etc.)
But who moderates, the moderators...
All I know is. From knowing what I know.. I know my time will come.
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You probably aren't wrong, with your last line, lol
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Well, he kind of called it I suppose. LOL
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There must be a leggit reason to the bans but I still have to critique the rules because some rules are not 100% understandable, due to that not one way understandable rules I got once banned too^^
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That's more of a case that people seem to have forgotten how to out their critisism in a civel manner rather then just the "pitchfork and torch" way
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i mean i got banned for joking about staying afk as killer and not doing gens as survivor when the new ruin comes, even if it was in different threads there is far worse on the forums that doesn't even get ban.
I can tell you this was a hard week for me to see lot of people asking questions and not being able to answer and help them like i usually do.
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Actually plenty changes based on feedback from both roles. The problem you're having is that the changes aren't always exactly to your liking. Or you think with a big enough outcry the devs are obligated to listen to whatever a group of people are demanding. Fortunately that's not how things work.
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We accusing BHVR of censorship now? This is how far people have gone?
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I get a strange inkling that the only reason this thread is up is to further vilify BHVR for the change to Ruin.
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This example could also be placed on how the people who play Killer feel. Look at all the changes that have taken place over time. It's telling the Killer you HAVE to play a certain way, or else you get punished, and even when you do, you are met with insults at the post game, or if you vent your displeasure on the forums, the majority of survivor players berate you and developers ignore your comments. Funny thing about it is that you need Killer players to even get a game going, yet you treat them with so much disdain, and they don't even get paid to deal with it.
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By saying anything that anyone for any reason can find insulting, degrading, or harassing.
I was banned once for saying something "takes a real lack of comprehension" and was banned for insulting someone. Even though they and I were both talking about the same thing.
Oh, or calling out the devs for ######### business practices and not knowing their own game. They love to ban for that one. Likely my last post tbh. RIP.
Also, dont EVER speak bad about fog whisperers. Or name them by name. They're the golden egg of behaviours goose apparently and can do no wrong. Even if it includes encouraging dcs as a protest.
Ggs!
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