MagusDL

I agree, Convinced 4 people to play, 3 left because of the time required to get the good perks, And then to play with different builds it will take alot more, add the random factor of the bloodweb and it feels like grinding in a MMO.

+1, would love that.

When I play with my brother it's the same issue, his kb is loud so it's annoying. But my main issue is overusing the hardware (kb/mouse/joystick) for no good reason. It's easy and adds nothing to the gameplay, it actually makes me more annoyed when people aren't going for the save. I meant "meaningless annoyance" btw.