BHVR already said they're happy with how new Ruin PTB is playing out? uhm how
So was this statement accidentally released early, I mean they were clearly going ahead with the change regardless of what feedback they get, but it would have been nice for them to at least pretend for a couple days before they claimed they observed anything to make a judgement on.
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Yea I'm about to leave the game.
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They said that they were happy with their internal tests, not the ptb
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The ptb just started #########
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I'm almost certain they're going to do the same thing they did with nurse. Not listen to any of the feedback and put it live anyway.
Glad I already found a new game to play.
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That screenshot that was posted is not referring to PTB. If that's what you're talking about, you're being extremely disingenuous.
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So they're glad how it turned out for, no offense intended a bunch of people who barely play and play very casually, instead of their customer base.
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I notice how new player experience isn't an issue when my girlfriend who is a rank 19 killer literally CANNOT get a game.
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This was decided in a meeting a long ago, it seems. It's a marketing move. The same reason that the new collectors edition has Trapper sharing the cover with Demo. Instead of just some dlc blurb at the bottom.
They want the game to be more accessible to the rage-quit inclined. They also apparently asked ppl off the street to play rank 20 survivor against ruin and everyone died.
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If you think people who *develop* a game barely play it, you clearly don't know what you're talking about
This makes literally no sense. Obviously they'd advertise getting a deal with a major franchise like Stranger Things, this is extremely major. But "we nerfed ruin" is only influential to people who already play the game. It means nothing to people who haven't played it. Has nothing to do with marketing
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Watch them play, they play like beginner's so it's no shock that is who they balance for.
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You have to admit... When they say things like "ruin will be a good late game hex" it does make you wonder if they play the game.
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Of course. They never even think about considering Killers' feedback to begin with.
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Internal playtests, and playtests with select experienced players. This was posted before the PTB began (as you can see by the date in the screenshot).
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I kinda feel like "select experienced players" means "randoms off the street". I've watched basically all of the twitch streamers, who are experienced as they get, and they all pretty much say the same thing. You dev's are survivor biased and have no clue how your own game works.
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We need something perks to delay gen rushing at beginning of the match, otherwise 3 gens will be completed when 1st survivor gets down. Are you really understanding this circumstances?
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Where?
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Nvm I thought it said not happy
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Good luck with que times for the new players on ps4 and also i hope the survivors enjoy cosmetic lobby simulator.
That innovative battlepass....errrm rift pass will do really well i am sure.
Gonna skip the next one and take a break.
Good luck
Wallet closed ✌
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My exprience was underwhelming this ptb
New doc feels really weak, new ruin is a joke for low tier killers, new map looks nice but they added new god pallets in almost every tile
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Devs don't care about feedback, they said they don't care, so lets just move on. No point even trying to talk to them about it, they don't want to hear any of it anyways.
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Not petty, just realistic.
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What game?
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By them ignoring it, it speaks volumes all on it's own. If you want to defend them I won't stop you, but the only thing that will convince me otherwise is when they start listening.
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I kinda doubt this was a test we can actually put our trust into, since our own experiences from the ptb and hundreds of hours playtime differ greatly from this.
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I’ve been playing Apex lol. I’m not a big fan of FPS games but I love the characters and I’m having a lot of fun.
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Ya that game had some cool character's.
Thanks
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How about you guys stop whining and just get better without ruin good God. I dont ever use it and i main Wraith and Doctor in purple and red ranks respectively. The game is fun as killer for me without the use of it. Quit being dependent on it.
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They don't ignore feedback.
It's extremely tiring to answer 90 salty threads all saying the same thing
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Is that what AngryPug says? I can 4k without perks if I'm in single digits ranks.
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I really quit this game, not because they destroy balancing.
But, because they didn't listen feedback and have strong self-confidence.
See you all in Monster Hunter World: Iceborne.
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now I have more motivation to actually play solo survivor so im fine with the changes. if you get scared of a lobby you can still dodge it
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I guess they like genrush and they want fewer people to play as killer
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Where did they claim that? You have some source to read myself?
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I'm still so pissed about the nurse butchering. Haven't played her anymore and everytime I verse Nurse I'm just making a complete joke about that poor killer choosing "the strongest killer in the game". I haven't versed a single nurse who got more than 2 kills. Absolute trash killer now.
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Im genuinely confused what you mean. I've read the changes, the reasoning behind the changes, and the dev posts about how they like the changes. What else should I read?
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They don't say it outright. It is in their actions
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Pug was pretty happy about Ruin because he thinks Ruin is boring to face.
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How many players were those? Which bandwith of skill did they have? Because not everyone is a professional doc main for example and most players hardly agree about balance. Yet I see so many people unite behind the current opinion on this forum that I have to ask this. Its a nice attempt to let good players test this out, but I can't get rid of the feeling that these players represent a minority and not the most shared opinion across the playerbase and that is kinda odd without an explanation of those players. That certainly would help.
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All streams I've seen today consisted of people saying Doc is better than he was before even with the bugs he currently has but yeah guys go off devs bad
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dont we all say that even though its a lie
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i want to know too
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I know right. I even played against Tofu’s nurse and he only managed to kill 1 person.
she’s so annoying to play now and it really makes me sad since she used to be my main. It’s just not worth it to play her anymore; especially if you want to win. :’-(
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Find me 3 serious dev responses to the feedback in all the new ruin threads. I'll wait. The only one I found says the devs like the change even though they know it will get negative feedback.
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Can you also give us who are these players are? I know its not possible but it seems like therse players have less experience then us
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If they release a statement saying they are happy with the changes and expect outrage for it, and then keep the changes, how is this not ignoring feedback. This was done with nurse, spirit, legion, and now ruin. Not once have k seem the devs scale back changes from the ptb into the actual game. Also, it's very hard to have faith in internal tests. I'm not accusing them if being dishonest, but there is a lack of transparency that is concerning.
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You realize that Peanits just announced that they're going to lower the delay between using Shock Therapy and attacking? And for Legion, they made multiple changes to him between PTB and Live?
I don't like the changes to Ruin either (Specifically, I don't like that they didn't really address the issue of gen speeds), but we shouldn't spread a false narrative.
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