Why can people insta-sabotage hooks even without toolboxes now?

No ######### sherlock, but they brought sabotage times down so low that even with just the jake park perk you can do it in 2 seconds. We're literally banned from hooking now unless you go down right beside the basement, because even if we hit someone sabotaging they just get to continue for the rest of the 2s and break our only viable hook. It's literally as bad as DBD 1.0 all over again when all hooks could be infinitely sabotaged.

I'm watching sweaty rank 1s camp the hooks so we can't wait it out, especially during EGC. They have someone waiting to heal if you slug and give chase, and if you don't give chase they'll just run for the hook again.

For all intents and purposes it's no longer possible to play killer. They let survivors stack DS so you are banned from hooking during EGC since everyone will fire DS on you, you can't hook because they made sabotage so fast and so easy that people can just facecamp a hook to prevent you ever hooking someone, and there's just nothing but deterrence for killers. The devs really don't want people playing killer, they want your money so you can pick killers but it's just £6+ so you can watch people insta-remove hooks and camp it to prevent hooking.

Do you play Killer at all? the timer is not in our favor. It lasts so long that if people unhook each other to ensure everyone has active DS, there's almost nowhere on any map they can't crawl to the exit gate from during the 60s timer.

Camping the sabo is nice and all, except when the guy you downed just crawls away and now you go get him and the sabo returns, or you lose and the whole process begins again. We're literally just unable to get hooks now unless we're over the basement.

Just about every single god damn patch makes things faster for survivors, and there's no killers left that can do things with the speed necessary to accommodate these changes. Sabotage is simply so fast now they could literally bring back v1.0 infinite-sabotage hooks and there'd be no difference.

You can't outplay sabos that get healed. Majority of all games are SWF (even devs have said so now iirc, and I'm pretty confident that most non-SWF games are low-ranks only and it's muddying the statistics).

You down a survivor, his friend is nearby and just runs ahead of you to ensure he gets the sabotage. If you drop your downed survivor to go for the saboteur, he will sabotage and run away by the time you have dropped the body. If you hit him whilst holding the body, he can instantly resume and finish his near-instant sabotage anyway before you get a chance to hit again (So fast infact that without save the best for last, you basically won't hit him before he already started running away).

And the timer is never in your favour. Decisive Strike is the highest rated survivor perk for a reason: almost everyone uses it. Player 1 gets hooked during EGC, so player 2 unhooks, but both have DS, so if you hook player 2, player 1 will unhook unsafely so that now you have to let them slug for 60s or get stunned whilst they run all the way to the exit (or as good as), and during that massive 60s timer they will easily reach the gate unless EGC was almost over when they went down.

Got Literally no other choice. Devs have nerfed killers too far now. It's not even just difficult, it's simply no longer possible.

If you've already walked to a hook, you no longer have the struggle timer necessary to reach another, even with iron grasp (which has been virtually obsolete since the original sabotage nerf years back). Now you have to slug people, whilst gens get done in a game where gen-rush is completely the norm, you won't rank up if you're not scoring a lot of hooks as killer, you won't even sustain your rank if you don't get more than like 5-6 on top of basically letting survivors be chased for 10 mins since shorter chases don't give you more score like descriptions claim. That slugged person will just max out their bar so someone can take a hit and heal them and now you've wasted 2 minutes on a chase, a ton of time slugging and trying to get someone to a hook (Assuming they don't just crawl away so the saboteur can once again infinitely sabotage en-masse), and there's no longer any gameplay for killers.

There is simply nothing for killers to do except watch survivors get free bloodpoints for sabotaging the same hooks over and over preventing you doing a single thing. It's just like how they put an unsafe unhook system in to punish bad unhooking, but then they add perks to encourage doing the exact same thing. They changed how long we can hold survivors so we can't just walk halfway over the map, and then they made it so people can instantly sabotage things even if we hit them midway through their 2s-3s timer, so they've deadlocked the entire system, except of course survivors are farming sabotage spam whilst killer gets literally nothing done. You can't move to another player, they already have committed to taking Saboteur and following you around with multiple survivors to ensure there's already people to ruin your hooks instantly.

And no you can't just go for the saboteur, people are stacking it like how they stack Decisive Strike. You down the saboteur, the 2nd one takes their place. It's another great example of survivor perks stacking in such a way that the killer is powerless.

I hover around rank 4 and play Shape / Nurse / Clown, but there's nothing that can break an SWF team that has brought 2 saboteurs that are focused entirely on preventing hooking and healing anyone who gets slugged whilst you fend off a saboteur. They've brought killers gameplay into a complete deadlock.