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Matches without an Obsession

TheLastGreatStar
TheLastGreatStar Member Posts: 1,002
edited August 2020 in General Discussions

So as we all know, when there’s no Obsession in a match that means there’s no DS. This got me wondering, do you as a killer play differently when you notice there’s not an Obsession? Would you be more likely to tunnel somebody down and pick them back up as you don’t have to worry about DS or does your play style not change? Also, as a survivor do you find that more tunnelling takes place in your games when there isn’t an Obsession or do you not notice a difference?

For me, as a killer I don’t play any different. I try not to tunnel people as I know how annoying it can be when this happens to you as a survivor. I also appreciate that the survivors in my lobby are trying out other perks other than DS, as I also like to play around with my builds.

Now as a survivor it’s a different story. I definitely feel more nervous and I almost expect to be tunnelled. I just feel like not having an Obsession in the match brings the ‘bad’ out of a lot of people and they see it as a way to end matches as quickly as possible. I definitely play a lot more ‘sensible’ as I can’t risk my first hook being my last lol. I’ve definitely noticed that either me or my teammates are hard tunnelled more in matches without an Obsession which I don’t think is a coincidence.

Comments

  • TheLastGreatStar
    TheLastGreatStar Member Posts: 1,002

    Yes you play differently? Yes you notice a difference? Yes to it all? Lol.

  • Mikeasaurus
    Mikeasaurus Member Posts: 2,327

    I never play any different in a match, obsession or not. If someone gets unhooked in my face, they get redowned and I leave them there to get picked up since I like to give everyone a fair chance. If nobody goes to help, then I'll re-hook after a while. There are times when I do end up eating a DS, but that's usually because a survivor decides to locker hop and I just pull them right back out to prove a point and move on to find someone else.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    Honestly i dont even notice. In the 2000k + hours ive noticed 2 games there was no obsession and both times it was at the end of the match when i realized

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,518

    If there's no obsession I won't go out of my way to quickly remove a player out of the game at 5 gens. But if there's 1 or 2 gens left and no one has died, then it sure won't stop me from removing a survivor out of the quickly at that point.

  • TheLastGreatStar
    TheLastGreatStar Member Posts: 1,002

    I think at that point it’s completely understandable why you’d want somebody out of the game. From my own experience I’ve just witnessed more people being hard tunnelled at the start of matches when there’s no Obsession. Sometimes it is the survivors fault for unhooking straight in front of the killer, but in those scenarios I like to punish the person doing the unhooking for being such a bad teammate lol.

    I personally don’t run DS as it’s just not for me. If I get tunnelled, I just take the loss and move on. But I play in a way that I’m normally the last person hooked or not hooked at all, so I’d rather use other stuff.

    It does make me laugh when I get slugged though. Every killer is on edge when there’s an Obsession. I also feel like it’s always me who gets slugged as well, although I’m never the one actually with DS. Oh well. Works for me. 😂

  • RelentlessShadows009
    RelentlessShadows009 Member Posts: 192

    I may change my style based off of the killer/map but not obsession. Unless they are using OoO then I basically will to my best to take them out first. Doesnt always go they way I want but...

  • LSerpentine
    LSerpentine Member Posts: 140

    For me when I play killer it makes no difference. I'm like "oh, neato" and move on.

    When i'm playing Surv and I see theres an obsession I actually want to cry somedays because most of the killers can get brutal, especially if you're using the same character as the obsession. (Me and the ob were both running Nea but she had dead hard and a couple other strength perks while I had UB, wake up, and Calm spirit. Wanted to cry because he'd tunnel whenever he saw either of us.)

  • MrLimonka
    MrLimonka Member Posts: 545

    I usually play normally and don't mind it. But no obession really encourages tunneling, since you don't need to worry about DS.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Yeah, I play a little differently: I let people go. If there's no obsession, survivors are way less cocky and rarely sit on gens next to their recently-vacated hook. So I've got no real reason to chase them most of the time, they're off looking for a heal. Makes the game nicer, you know? Plus, it's hilarious when someone tries to bluff a locker DS. I mean, the correct play is almost always to rip them out of the locker and eat the DS so it can't get you later, but it's even funnier when they immediately DC or suicide. Sad and petty, to be sure, but funny.

    As survivor, literally nothing changes for me. I never abuse, or even USE, DS since I so rarely get properly tunelled and I don't believe in 59 second DS's as being fair in any way, even if you weren't being a prick about it. I also get a lot of people saying I should run it so I don't get farmed, but that's the farmers fault, not mine. I don't see why I should punish the killer for it. I'd rather avoid getting hooked in the first place, through stealth and long chases, and I don't get cocky. Or, rather, when I do get cocky I freely admit it was my own fault.

  • TheLastGreatStar
    TheLastGreatStar Member Posts: 1,002

    You share a lot of the same stances as me. I can’t say I’ve ever gotten much use out of DS as I don’t use it for the sake of using it, such as jumping into a locker to make a killer grab me and my play style consists of trying not to be downed at all. So why bother using a perk that only activates after me being hooked? It just makes no sense. If I’m unlucky and get hooked first and tunnelled, it just is what it is. I just find situational perks pretty boring. I want to use perks I’ll be able to use in every game.

  • RizeAki
    RizeAki Member Posts: 1,209

    I just play no matter obsession or not if an unhook happens and I’m not in a chase or still near the hook better body block or have ds cuz I’m gonna do a rehook

  • IceCreamPrincess
    IceCreamPrincess Member Posts: 226

    As a killer, my playstyle doesn't change in the slightest, since my method of playing around DS is just eat them anyways, better to eat a DS than them just unbreakable back up. I down someone, they're getting picked up unless i have a reason to slug, like another survivor nearby. Plus if they jump into a locker, might as well force them to use the DS, since they're getting away regardless. And hey, sometimes they dont have it and i get my hook

    As a survivor? No clue, i always run an obsession perk, so there is never not an obsession

  • magicmaster2020
    magicmaster2020 Member Posts: 499

    I find that when there's no obsession I'm much more aggressive

  • SaltedSnow
    SaltedSnow Member Posts: 309

    If there's no obsession I'll punish dumb plays more, such as someone looping like trash or unhooking in my face. Otherwise I'll play normally.

  • sad_killer_main
    sad_killer_main Member Posts: 785

    Lmao I always play the same.

    Even tho I've played killer for a long time I never really realized that no obsessions mean no DS also.

    My playstyle is kinda the same as tru3. Using logic, my brain, not going for a 4k, going for a merciless killer.

  • Ghouled_Mojo
    Ghouled_Mojo Member Posts: 2,287

    I tunnel more when I know DS is in play. Especially early on.

  • BeHasU
    BeHasU Member Posts: 830

    I do play differently, yes, but only in the mid-late game (less than 2 gens left). If there are still a lot of gens, i try to not tunnel somebody, but when there is one gen left and the guy is saved right in front on me, i usually will go for the guy that got unhooked, its the smart decision to do so imo. Why should i go for the unhooker when this guy that got saved can easily finish a gen and heal with adrenaline while im chasing the other full-health guy.

  • gatsby
    gatsby Member Posts: 2,533

    As Killer, if there's an opportunity to tunnel with no DS, of course I'll take it. I want to win.

    As Survivor, Blood Pact never leaves my build so its a non-issue

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Well no, i don't play any different.

    But it's a nice change from having to always consider DS.

    Also, and this is most likely just me, i find it oddly a tiny bit satisfying to not hear the "You have an Obsession!" noise in the beginning of the trial.

  • sulaiman
    sulaiman Member Posts: 3,219

    As killer, i just eat the ds anyway. So no, i don´t play differently. But as survivor, i dont notice any difference either.

    the problem is more that your fellow survivor, who unhook you in the killers face without bt, dont realize you dont have ds if there is no obsession, and thats why that play don´t work all of a sudden.

  • VSchmitt
    VSchmitt Member Posts: 571

    Honestly, I play both sides equally so, when I see that there's no obsession (as a killer) I play normally, but much more relieved that if a survivors screws up hard and appears in front of me, I can punish it withouth the fear of one minute of immortality.

    But what I see, as a survivor, is that most killers will go out of their way to play scummy if they see that there's no obsession.

    I HATE DS and never run it as a survivor, I think that's a really broken perk per se, and if you combo it with unbreakable (and now soul guard, good job, devs) It's all the second chances that you can get and it's almost impossible for you to die in a match, but killers who tunnel and camp hard when there's no obsession are the dumb ######### that "legitimate" all the DS excuses on survivor side.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,247

    I don't change my play style if there's no obsession no. It's rare I even notice if there's an obsession or not in the game unless I am specifically running PWYF - I tend to not notice the survivor icons on my screen as I'm too focused on the match.

  • APoipleTurtle
    APoipleTurtle Member Posts: 1,274

    Actually, I do play killer differently when no Obsession is in play. Though not in the scummy way which that sentence may have implied.

    In my experience: when playing against a group with 3-4 skilled survivors (whether SWF or Solos), it is almost a guarantee that at least one of them will have brought DS. It is a powerful perk, and likely one of the most popular options at higher levels of play.

    If there is no Obsession, then there is a high likelihood that I have been matched against a bunch of inexperienced low rank players who simply don't have DS and may not even understand basic gameplay all that well yet. If I played as aggressively against them as I normally would against a tougher purple/red rank team, then the match would probably be over within a couple minutes without anyone getting many points or having much fun. If I believe the survivors I'm playing against are all low-skill players like this, then I'll actually back off and play less efficiently to draw out the match longer and give them more time to play. If I'm likely going to win against this kind of team anyway, I may as well let them have a more exciting match at least.

  • ExcelSword
    ExcelSword Member Posts: 512

    I try not to change my playstyle too much, but I won't let people do stupid things expecting me to follow some honor code, and if they taunt me without DS than they have brass balls.

    If I had to change DS I would make it so that the time goes down twice as fast working on objectives, healing, etc, and no obsession at the start. Using Decisive Strike will make you become the obsession however. This would help make sure killers respect DS in matches without it, while also not rewarding survivors for making risky plays with no fear.