Nerfing moris is the worst thing bhvr could've ever done.

Based on your extreme overraction to a simple balancing change they have said they were working on for at least 3 months, you taking a break is probably for the best for your own health, and to be honest, for everyone you might be put in a lobby with too.

How about map offerings, how do we balance them? Cause i sure know that there are 4 survs and each can have a map offering while going against one offering of the killer. In addition how many moris can one have at a specific moment?

Now i dont like moris cause you cant really pip with them to get to higher ranks, but one thing for sure is that right now all i will do is wait for key change because God forbid you get swf with OoO and key who know what they are doing(which they always are on red ranks)

Can confirm. You guys announced the insta-heal and BNP changes weeks in advanced and we had to deal with them every entity-damn match for like 2 weeks. Why the hell can't we have our own "Mori Monday!" Guess we'll have to settle for Tombstone Tuesday then!

How many key + OoO death squads do you face though.

I can count them on one hand...

After several thousand hours of gameplay :]

So that everyone spams their mories like there's no tomorrow?

I'd rather not

That's all there is to know about what happens when competent survivors meet a killer. Mori is the only thing that could be opposed to skilled bullysquads, which make this game disgusting. Mori was just patching a hole in the balance sheet.

Why would anyone like playing against mories?It's not fun for survivors to get tunneled immediately after getting unhooked once and leave the game with like 3000 points.

It's pretty much the same like old BNPs

The queue times between them aren't "comparable in the slightest" either. I'm gonna come back over the weekend just hoping to see some good threads here and on steam about the queue times lmao. And I might decide to afk noed/bloodwarden wraith a few games too hoping that they took at least 20 minutes finding a match just to think they were gonna coast through it just to have at least a couple of them killed at the last minute lmfao. That'll be a form of bloody but mostly peaceful protest, if survivors become frustrated or discouraged from playing frequently enough between queue times and toxic gameplay then they might lend their vocal majority to killers or at least remove themselves as one more costume stuffer and grab the devs' attention for a change.

Make the survivors either super bored, or super super miserable if you want change. Make them want you sided with just to make their own play time easier for them or fun again. It'll work if it eventually hurts the bottom line driving enough from the game or making them feel spending on it is a waste of money. The way to hut the bottom line is by making sure survivors have the least amount of fun you can manage, since they are the majority which means you need to hit the majority of spenders and make them wanna become nonspenders.

If you don't wanna do that, then at least if you're on pc the least you can do to contribute is to set in a window, minimum rez and size and settings, and justs it in survivor queues all day and if you're at the helm just dodge and queue again once it puts you in a lobby which takes only a few seconds of work every 10-20 minutes or so by then just to make their queues take longer if enough of you do it. If you deprive them of killers And add survivors to compete against in queues... then it makes a noticeable impact on queue times and counteracts the bored survivors leaving the game and it's queues for a while. Think of it like a facebook game or a phone game where you just leave the lobby every 15 to 20 minutes and minimize it again lol. There is no way to know what you're doing and it is an allowed mechanic, so don't have any worries about that unless they change the ability to dodge lobbies which in itself would do it's job and drive so many off of the game very quickly for the lulz.

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The issues with Keys in my view is that they are very similiar to moris it cuts games shorter then it should be and when killers see a key in the lobby thats a huge red flag as could be a potential SWF there and considering how unbalance swf can be at times mori was a way to stablise the balance of the game. Also keys can have add ons like reveal killer aura etc while mori doesnt want to point that out think alot of people miss the fact you can make keys even stronger with add ons.

Also the get 5 gen done aspect is not true it now depending how many are you alive and how many gens are done to put it simply if you have 4 gens done and one of you are dead then you can use the key to escape with your friends.

Also you dont always get your pip in some cases the survivor escaping by hatch hurts you to black pip or worse and if survivors do some stuff like chases healing etc then they will most likely pip.

But what it comes down to is both Mori and Keys in the right hands are broken features of the game that needed changes. What people are up in arms about is that the mori changes should of been with the key changes i dont think the majority of people disagree with the nerf they disagree that the key and mori changes should be seperate.

Plus all this has done is cause more friction and anger from the killer community towards the devs and fueling the posts that say devs are survivor sided. this change should of been done at the same time as keys to avoid the friction and anger to have some peace in the dbd world for once this year.

Keys have never been anywhere near the same level of game breaking that ebony moris were. You live in an alternate reality if you think they're comparable. If you don't like playing killer anymore, stop playing the game. Or play survivor. If it's not fun for you, stop playing.

I've had it happen to my teammates and myself, atleast 5 games in a row multiple times a week, so please people stop acting like it's a rare occurrence, its not all you killer mains know its not, I play both and to tell you the truth, when playing killer to mori off first hook felt cheap to me, like winning a rigged sport game, there isn't a challenge to the game, the way people were using a mori, pint blank this change is the best thing that could happen to a mori, its still very usable and now fair to both sides.

I play both. This is a long overdue and positive change.

If you want easy wins, you should buy F13 the game and play against the offline bots. That may be more in your wheel house.

Well, ever chased a good survivor? See maps are being chosen by survs for most of the time, and they really need to mess up or have no second chance perks with them so killer can pit pressure on them, cause right at the start killer is on the back foot. This is the reason why ruin is meta. You dont have to waste time kicking gens thus saving time to pressure survs.

In an equal game with no mori no key and no BT, DS, Adrenaline(i call it second chance perk but i am fine if its factually not), NOED, Unbreakable and dead hard( to an extent second chance perk) then killer gets around 1 or 2 kills. 4k is ussually caused by uber altruism and perk on killer such as save best for last. And even then killer has to soft camp thus addmiting defeat to a large extent.

The only reason I equip mori would be for the trophy. And I've been robbed numerous times from finishing that crap because of people disconnecting once they see what's happening. Usually the last one points, teabags, then hits the leave button.

Good ######### times

Besides buff DS?

This is a good change. Whereas before I'd hardly use Mori's, I see myself using them whenever now. Not particularly as an advantage over survivors with DS, but just for the mori animation's themselves.

Perhaps the developers could even monetize Mori animation's now. I was wary of suggesting this as it would only encourage more unfair Mori offerings. However, now that they're basically purely for viewing pleasure (besides somewhat countering DS), it'd be cool to see a range of different Mori animations for individual killers.

lol bs, you say that either as a survivor main, or somebody that needs to do more than work unpaid as an entertainer in dbd all day.

Mori's still make killers stronger, although now its a lot more fairer to the survivors.

If you think they're useless, you're just trolling.