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DC ban crackdown

Tzeentchling9
Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
edited October 2018 in General Discussions
So I guess the Devs are actually implementing bans for DCing.

So, can we get a solution to Survivors holding the game hostage? Or are Killers all supposed to waste a precious perks slot on Whispers for fear of bans from Survivors forcing DCs?
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  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    I agree and wonder how it has been ignored by the Devs so far. But i take the banwave as a sign that they are starting to act.
  • xmenfanatic
    xmenfanatic Member Posts: 816
    edited October 2018

    This is wonderful news! This fixes the issue of selfish players on both sides who DC constantly. This fixes my biggest issue with the game. Id rather be body blocked by a survivor, blinded by a flash light, tunneled by a killer or camped then for either side to DC. The game is at least playable when people can't DC all the time, thank goodness that'll make it so games actually...happen. hahaha.

    as for the game been held hostage, that's another grand step for them to take after this one. What would you suggest as a solution to stop it when players on either side take a game hostage? a video recording? maybe a time limit for how long a game has persisted after an exit gate has opened, or the hatch has been available? If a survivor doesn't leave 5-10 minutes after then they get no blood points for survival, and it is assumed they are sacrificed since they "couldn't escape"?

    edit: as for when a killer takes a game hostage, I'm not sure how to combat that, but that also needs to be addressed.

  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    They need to punish lobby dodging :)
  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437

    This is wonderful news! This fixes the issue of selfish players on both sides who DC constantly. This fixes my biggest issue with the game. Id rather be body blocked by a survivor, blinded by a flash light, tunneled by a killer or camped then for either side to DC. The game is at least playable when people can't DC all the time, thank goodness that'll make it so games actually...happen. hahaha.

    as for the game been held hostage, that's another grand step for them to take after this one. What would you suggest as a solution to stop it when players on either side take a game hostage? a video recording? maybe a time limit for how long a game has persisted after an exit gate has opened, or the hatch has been available? If a survivor doesn't leave 5-10 minutes after then they get no blood points for survival, and it is assumed they are sacrificed since they "couldn't escape"?

    edit: as for when a killer takes a game hostage, I'm not sure how to combat that, but that also needs to be addressed.


    the killer gets no devotion points dispute getting them or they forgot all there addons and offerings most times killers dont do that because it wastes time
  • NoxiousOnnyyxx
    NoxiousOnnyyxx Member Posts: 343

    They should have it to where if the survivors cross the line to the exit gates they have a timer, but they don't know for how long. 30 seconds? 5 seconds? And if they don't leave something like the blood warden would activate...Idk just a thought....

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525
    edited October 2018

    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @SenzuDuck said:
    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    ^ This, killer doesn't like the map dc, killer doesn't like the offerings, dc, killer doesn't hook someone within 30 seconds dc, killers totem gets cleansed early dc. The killer is the one that chooses to hit the escape key then select the exit game option then click accept.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @powerbats said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    ^ This, killer doesn't like the map dc, killer doesn't like the offerings, dc, killer doesn't hook someone within 30 seconds dc, killers totem gets cleansed early dc. The killer is the one that chooses to hit the escape key then select the exit game option then click accept.

    Nothing was lost on this day of banning!

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    edited October 2018
    SenzuDuck said:

    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    Putting words in other people's mouths as usual.

    Fine, so what is the killer supposed to do when the last Survivor is intent on prolonging the game indefinitely? And where are the countermeasures if a Killer holds the game hostage as well?

    There was a post here not to long ago about a killer with his game being held hostage and when he messaged the Survivor, he was told he had to DC. Marth has video up on YT of the exact same situation. If the devs are cracking down on DCs, what are players supposed to do?
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Tzeentchling9 said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    Putting words in other people's mouths as usual.

    Fine, so what is the killer supposed to do when the last Survivor is intent on prolonging the game indefinitely? And where are the countermeasures if a Killer holds the game hostage as well?

    There was a post here not to long ago about a killer with his game being held hostage and when he messaged the Survivor, he was told he had to DC. Marth has video up on YT of the exact same situation. If the devs are cracking down on DCs, what are players supposed to do?

    Sorry, what words did I put into your mouth? Your post literally states that survivors are forcing DCs and given the title of the post it implies you're blaming this "forcing to dc" as the reason the bans are happening, there are no words being put into anyones mouth.

    Holding the game hostage is a completely separate thing, which you're supposed to get proof of and then report the survivor/killer for, survivors, from what I've seen very rarely "hold the game hostage" for no longer than the amount of time it takes them to find the hatch, and well killers can entirely block gameplay by holding survivors in a spot and not allowing them to play at all, again - record the proof and upload it.

    You can see here what the proper thing to do is, I assume that if you disconnect from a match being held hostage and you explain that in your report they'll probably ignore the DC. I don't know if this is actual fact but you can ask @Peanits @MandyTalk @not_Queen @Gay Myers (Luzi) to clarify if this is the case.

    If they don't ignore DC's that have been induced by actual game hostage then I can't defend that and I would say that is disgusting behaviour to not stricken a dc from a players profile if it was "forced" by a hostage match.

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    In no way did I imply that those were the reasons behind the recent bans. I was stating how this situation could be abused now that DCs actually mean something.
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525
    edited October 2018

    @Tzeentchling9 said:
    In no way did I imply that those were the reasons behind the recent bans. I was stating how this situation could be abused now that DCs actually mean something.

    Title - "DC Bans Crackdown"
    First Sentence - So, can we get a solution to Survivors holding the game hostage?

    A solution implies it's already an incredibly prevalent thing (It isn't).

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    I was stuck in a game for 45 minutes as freddy today looking for 2 p3 claudettes

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,578

    Its a shame this cannot be enforced on PS4. We get a lot of dc's on there.

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tzeentchling9 said:
    In no way did I imply that those were the reasons behind the recent bans. I was stating how this situation could be abused now that DCs actually mean something.

    Title - "DC Bans Crackdown"
    First Sentence - So, can we get a solution to Survivors holding the game hostage?

    A solution implies it's already an incredibly prevalent thing (It isn't).

    Which then implies that all the bans are from this? That's a lot of hoops to jump through in order to twist my words around. I guess, I shouldn't be surprised with your long history on this forum of doing that though. It's sad, really.
  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134
    powerbats said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    ^ This, killer doesn't like the map dc, killer doesn't like the offerings, dc, killer doesn't hook someone within 30 seconds dc, killers totem gets cleansed early dc. The killer is the one that chooses to hit the escape key then select the exit game option then click accept.

    Sometimes a killer suddenly has to poop.

    Or sometimes a killer's puppy suddenly has to poop and/or pee.

    Killers can't control everything. It's dumb we have to host.

    But unless a survivor is going to come over and change my and/or my puppy's diaper....it's a DC.
  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 646

    @SenzuDuck said:
    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    When the exit gates are open and hatch is there and the survivor stays in the match for over 1 hour how is it the killers fault..

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Zanfer said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    When the exit gates are open and hatch is there and the survivor stays in the match for over 1 hour how is it the killers fault..

    Lets pretend this is a regular occurrence shall we?

    This is what I said on the issue, and no saying "this always happens" will not convince me as I've NEVER had s survivor hide in a match longer than it has taken them to find the hatch.

    "You can see here what the proper thing to do is, I assume that if you disconnect from a match being held hostage and you explain that in your report they'll probably ignore the DC. I don't know if this is actual fact but you can ask @Peanits @MandyTalk @not_Queen @Gay Myers (Luzi) to clarify if this is the case.

    If they don't ignore DC's that have been induced by actual game hostage then I can't defend that and I would say that is disgusting behaviour to not stricken a dc from a players profile if it was "forced" by a hostage match."

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    DC bans have always been there, the bans were just following the regular durations and so you often wouldn't even know they happened. You could totally miss a 24 hour ban.

    Holding the game hostage on either side is bannable. This includes a survivor wandering around the map for half an hour while the gates are powered and they're free to leave (not as in they're in the gates and you just aren't chasing them out). If you notice a survivor doing this, I'd recommend starting a recording. Windows 10 has a recorder built in if you don't have one of your own. Just press Windows + G to bring it up. It's not the best, but it'll do. Even if you lag, something's better than nothing. A few minutes is enough to prove it.

    Same goes for if a killer is holding the game hostage (either blocking survivors in so they can't leave/move, or using doctor to specifically prevent survivors from powering generators but not killing <--- THIS IS FOR EXTREME CASES, like when the game goes on for half an hour and he's literally just shocking you over and over without any attempt to hit you).

    Take that video, make a support ticket under Additional Player Report Information at https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us. And absolutely report in-game as well. Even if you can't grab a video for whatever reason, report them in-game. This logs the match.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Peanits said:
    DC bans have always been there, the bans were just following the regular durations and so you often wouldn't even know they happened. You could totally miss a 24 hour ban.

    Holding the game hostage on either side is bannable. This includes a survivor wandering around the map for half an hour while the gates are powered and they're free to leave (not as in they're in the gates and you just aren't chasing them out). If you notice a survivor doing this, I'd recommend starting a recording. Windows 10 has a recorder built in if you don't have one of your own. Just press Windows + G to bring it up. It's not the best, but it'll do. Even if you lag, something's better than nothing. A few minutes is enough to prove it.

    Same goes for if a killer is holding the game hostage (either blocking survivors in so they can't leave/move, or using doctor to specifically prevent survivors from powering generators but not killing <--- THIS IS FOR EXTREME CASES, like when the game goes on for half an hour and he's literally just shocking you over and over without any attempt to hit you).

    Take that video, make a support ticket under Additional Player Report Information at https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us. And absolutely report in-game as well. Even if you can't grab a video for whatever reason, report them in-game. This logs the match.

    Can you please clarify as to whether if you're the one being taken hostage, and you have to DC as there is no way to complete the match via your means the DC will mean nothing?

    Also, I personally don't think this is happening to the extent that if you have to DC from a hostage match it's going to be enough so that you end up getting banned.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Peanits said:
    DC bans have always been there, the bans were just following the regular durations and so you often wouldn't even know they happened. You could totally miss a 24 hour ban.

    Holding the game hostage on either side is bannable. This includes a survivor wandering around the map for half an hour while the gates are powered and they're free to leave (not as in they're in the gates and you just aren't chasing them out). If you notice a survivor doing this, I'd recommend starting a recording. Windows 10 has a recorder built in if you don't have one of your own. Just press Windows + G to bring it up. It's not the best, but it'll do. Even if you lag, something's better than nothing. A few minutes is enough to prove it.

    Same goes for if a killer is holding the game hostage (either blocking survivors in so they can't leave/move, or using doctor to specifically prevent survivors from powering generators but not killing <--- THIS IS FOR EXTREME CASES, like when the game goes on for half an hour and he's literally just shocking you over and over without any attempt to hit you).

    Take that video, make a support ticket under Additional Player Report Information at https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us. And absolutely report in-game as well. Even if you can't grab a video for whatever reason, report them in-game. This logs the match.

    Can you please clarify as to whether if you're the one being taken hostage, and you have to DC as there is no way to complete the match via your means the DC will mean nothing?

    Also, I personally don't think this is happening to the extent that if you have to DC from a hostage match it's going to be enough so that you end up getting banned.

    It really doesn't happen enough to get you DC banned. Loads of people play in red ranks every day and as one of the guys that goes through all the reports, I can safely tell you that it's not very common. In any case, the threshold is high enough to take situations like that into consideration. In order for that to get you banned, it would have to happen a lot.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Peanits said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Peanits said:
    DC bans have always been there, the bans were just following the regular durations and so you often wouldn't even know they happened. You could totally miss a 24 hour ban.

    Holding the game hostage on either side is bannable. This includes a survivor wandering around the map for half an hour while the gates are powered and they're free to leave (not as in they're in the gates and you just aren't chasing them out). If you notice a survivor doing this, I'd recommend starting a recording. Windows 10 has a recorder built in if you don't have one of your own. Just press Windows + G to bring it up. It's not the best, but it'll do. Even if you lag, something's better than nothing. A few minutes is enough to prove it.

    Same goes for if a killer is holding the game hostage (either blocking survivors in so they can't leave/move, or using doctor to specifically prevent survivors from powering generators but not killing <--- THIS IS FOR EXTREME CASES, like when the game goes on for half an hour and he's literally just shocking you over and over without any attempt to hit you).

    Take that video, make a support ticket under Additional Player Report Information at https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us. And absolutely report in-game as well. Even if you can't grab a video for whatever reason, report them in-game. This logs the match.

    Can you please clarify as to whether if you're the one being taken hostage, and you have to DC as there is no way to complete the match via your means the DC will mean nothing?

    Also, I personally don't think this is happening to the extent that if you have to DC from a hostage match it's going to be enough so that you end up getting banned.

    It really doesn't happen enough to get you DC banned. Loads of people play in red ranks every day and as one of the guys that goes through all the reports, I can safely tell you that it's not very common. In any case, the threshold is high enough to take situations like that into consideration. In order for that to get you banned, it would have to happen a lot.

    Yea, I really didn't think it was happening that much.
    Thanks for the clarification though, have a wonderful evening.

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    Actually banning chronic DC'ers who improve the game a lot, in my opinion. Personally I feel a "ramping-up" style punishment would be better than banning them outright.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Attackfrog said:
    powerbats said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    ^ This, killer doesn't like the map dc, killer doesn't like the offerings, dc, killer doesn't hook someone within 30 seconds dc, killers totem gets cleansed early dc. The killer is the one that chooses to hit the escape key then select the exit game option then click accept.

    Sometimes a killer suddenly has to poop.

    Or sometimes a killer's puppy suddenly has to poop and/or pee.

    Killers can't control everything. It's dumb we have to host.

    But unless a survivor is going to come over and change my and/or my puppy's diaper....it's a DC.

    The same could be said fore survivors having to take a bio, or dog or real life etc, it's not a big deal and as @peanits said it's not that often of an occurrence. If it is then that's your fault for not planning properly since if you know my pet goes around this time generally plan.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @se05239 said:
    Actually banning chronic DC'ers who improve the game a lot, in my opinion. Personally I feel a "ramping-up" style punishment would be better than banning them outright.

    The bans handed out today were only for a week afaik, if they've been hit with a ban before it'll probably be longer.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    To clarify, DC bans follow a completely separate progression now (1 week, 2 weeks, 4 weeks, permanent). Previous DC bans count towards this progression, so if you had two prior DC bans, you would get a 4 week ban.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Attackfrog said:
    powerbats said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    ^ This, killer doesn't like the map dc, killer doesn't like the offerings, dc, killer doesn't hook someone within 30 seconds dc, killers totem gets cleansed early dc. The killer is the one that chooses to hit the escape key then select the exit game option then click accept.

    Sometimes a killer suddenly has to poop.

    Or sometimes a killer's puppy suddenly has to poop and/or pee.

    Killers can't control everything. It's dumb we have to host.

    But unless a survivor is going to come over and change my and/or my puppy's diaper....it's a DC.

    You have just as much power to report DCing survivors, too. You should probably make sure stuffs in order. As an unethical life pro tip though, if you DC the system tracks it, if you AFK you're less likely to be affected by it, if you're not doing anything you may as well AFK, get minor points and be done with it as opposed to DCing entirely.

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    powerbats said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    ^ This, killer doesn't like the map dc, killer doesn't like the offerings, dc, killer doesn't hook someone within 30 seconds dc, killers totem gets cleansed early dc. The killer is the one that chooses to hit the escape key then select the exit game option then click accept.

    Sometimes a killer suddenly has to poop.

    Or sometimes a killer's puppy suddenly has to poop and/or pee.

    Killers can't control everything. It's dumb we have to host.

    But unless a survivor is going to come over and change my and/or my puppy's diaper....it's a DC.
    Why not just go afk?
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @Peasant said:
    Attackfrog said:


    powerbats said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    ^ This, killer doesn't like the map dc, killer doesn't like the offerings, dc, killer doesn't hook someone within 30 seconds dc, killers totem gets cleansed early dc. The killer is the one that chooses to hit the escape key then select the exit game option then click accept.

    Sometimes a killer suddenly has to poop.

    Or sometimes a killer's puppy suddenly has to poop and/or pee.

    Killers can't control everything. It's dumb we have to host.

    But unless a survivor is going to come over and change my and/or my puppy's diaper....it's a DC.

    Why not just go afk?

    Because that wouldn't justify their DCing, duh.

  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642

    @Tzeentchling9 said:
    So I guess the Devs are actually implementing bans for DCing.

    So, can we get a solution to Survivors holding the game hostage? Or are Killers all supposed to waste a precious perks slot on Whispers for fear of bans from Survivors forcing DCs?

    I cant see any difference ingame. Survivors still Dc left and right and even killers started DCing regularly now :lol:

  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134

    @Peasant said:
    Attackfrog said:


    powerbats said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    "Survivors Forcing DC"

    Don't try and justify peoples bans by saying it's the survivors faults, lmfao.

    ^ This, killer doesn't like the map dc, killer doesn't like the offerings, dc, killer doesn't hook someone within 30 seconds dc, killers totem gets cleansed early dc. The killer is the one that chooses to hit the escape key then select the exit game option then click accept.

    Sometimes a killer suddenly has to poop.

    Or sometimes a killer's puppy suddenly has to poop and/or pee.

    Killers can't control everything. It's dumb we have to host.

    But unless a survivor is going to come over and change my and/or my puppy's diaper....it's a DC.

    Why not just go afk?

    I was half joking. I can't say I have ever actually purposefully dc'd. But I have gone afk for something (usually a beer and/or the puppy).

    Unless someone is racing to get to rank 1 (which....why?), I can't really see a reason to purposely dc. Sometimes you just get a crappy map with really good/loaded opponents and the next 5-10 minutes blows. That's just the way it is.