Content creators
I really don't want to talk bad about any content creators out there so I won't be naming any.
It's just a simple question
Do you think they are the reason this community is so divided?
My personal opinion:Yes 80% why? Because think about it they have their huge fan base each of them is playing different roles and each of them are analysing their opposites either killer or survivor and like we know their fans tend to not have personality but follow everything they say and that creates more and more drama in this community (example one of them (no name) talked about swf nerf and suddenly all social medias connected to dbd are full of it for days and two opposite sides are fighting like dogs for days already) so that's my personal opinion let's hear yours? ❤️
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I don’t think they are the reason but some of them definitely make things worse. There are others though that do the opposite and I enjoy watching those.
and content creators are also a big reason why this game got to be as popular as it is today. So maybe we wouldn’t have this game anymore if it wasn’t for them..
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Not even slightly? People who like one side more than the other are going to be tribalist about their side regardless of who they watch, if any. Content creators propagate some opinions, especially when it comes to killer tier lists, but people sure as hell don't need the help to be mad about facecamping/tunneling/slugging/genrushing/tbagging/clicking and, over the course of many bad matches, deciding that everyone on the other side is some combination of lazy, undeserving, hyper-competent, and evil, and only winning because BHVR is endlessly nerfing [their side] to favor [other side] in a clearly [other side]-sided game.
Most major content creators are pretty level-headed, and the issues they raise are either with specific killers or perks, or broader issues like matchmaking. It stands to reason that the division in the community doesn't come from them. Sure, they might start a discussion, but they didn't cause everyone to hate each other when the screaming starts five seconds later. The division in the community comes from resentment and distrust for the other side's intentions.
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I agree for that there's definitely some of them that are pure enjoyable to watch and listen (mostly smaller content creators)
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Yes and no. See some content creators are amazing people, and actually bring out a rather fun, and cheerful side of this community. However some have inspired terrible behaviour, and what happens is that it becomes an echo chamber. People will repeat their behaviours and blindly believe their ideals. Like Mooks said however without Content creators the game would've died out pretty quickly
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Agree that's why I said 80% not 100% because I do see amazing content creators
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I generally find "content creators", "e-celebs" and "professional Youtubers" to be obnoxious. They're often smug, seem to be under the impression that they're experts on a multitude of subjects, and are generally just people who play games and / or express opinions on things for a living. In other words they're nobodies who are somebody just because a lot of people happen to watch them.
I've also noticed that this community seems to absolutely WORSHIP them. I have never seen the names of so many online gamers I've never heard of thrown around with the frequency and fervency that I do here. I've also noticed that it seems to coincide with the shifting opinions of the day: "JoBloNinja69420 said that the Demogorgon is OP. Do you agree? Because he said it, so there's some real empirical credibility to back up his claim". Argument ensues, someone throws out the name of some other wannabe e-sports legend, the cycle continues.
Do I feel that they contribute to the divisiveness? Yes, I don't see how they couldn't. When so many people appear to place such fealty into the hands of other players, simply because they have a visual platform, it's going to create this false hierarchy of expertise and knowledge that perpetuates the "well he said this so it must be true" debates I see way too often.
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Fighting like dogs is a bit hyperbolic isn't it? I personally like the conversations that arise. People like Scott and Dowesy make pretty good arguments in regards to actually buffing solo players rather than begging swf provided MMR exists because shrinking the difference between swf and solo would make MMR work better.
Granted I mostly watch killers because that's way more entertaining so maybe the survivors are more aggressive on the issue.
That said I think you're giving a handful of people far more credit for shaping the conversation than they actually are. The community is divided because the rules are so heavily divided. Look at the huge litany of invented rules survivors expect killers to follow. Those come from the survivors and not some kids talking on the internet.
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Some content creators don't take responsibility for what they do and say, and just fan the flames til they get what they want. You know the kind, the ones who have their opinion and reject all contrary evidence, or the ones who act toxic and entitled and pretend their audience isn't doing the same, or worse encourage their audience to do the same.
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Trust me if u visit some of Instagram dbd pages or reddit etc etc you'll see what I meant by "fighting like dogs"
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Yep you worded it better than I did that's exactly my thoughts (not surprising my English is terrible 😂)
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I don't think content creators as a whole are a problem. Ones like OhTofu are great, consistently provide balanced takes, and don't love the smell of their own farts.
Then you have large ones that I won't name who are complete knobs and aren't nearly as good at the game as they or their fans think they are but influence discourse in a large way.
It's a mixed bag like anything else.
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No it isn't.
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Some content creators are to blame for their behaviour, for sure
But they also have very limited control over their audiences actions, one of the bigger dbd streamers has to go out of their way to dodge TTVers/other streamers because if they do something even slightly obnoxious they'll be bombarded by "fans" who will chastise them for their behaviour
However I feel some content creators are harming the discourse surrounding the game, because some people just parrot what they say, post their videos and don't articulate their own points and thoughts. It's like when people say that X killer is bad then post a video from a content creator and go "that proves it"
I don't really like where the DBD community is at right now with content creators, the recent drama just goes to show.
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Well thank you I'm trying to improve it but u know sometimes I look for right words and than it ends up being not best or out of context
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That's understandable, but for whatever it's worth I think that your English is very good.
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Thank you really
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I don't think its fully them maybe a 40 percent them the other 60 is just the fact that it's a pvp game with one side that you can choose and prefer. Its just cause people like for their side to be better. Now do I think that some people increase that by a great factor YES 100% if a killer main that is popular says "survivor is too good" then some killer mains will think the same and that idea will spread now if a popular survivor creator says " Killer is broken" then the same will happen. Its just the fact that more times than not people don't wanna be on the losing side so they make the other side seem broken so they can be more nobel by playing the losing side or they get the other side nerfed. At least thats my take on it anyway.
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I'm just going to put my eyes in here, just to remind people not to name content creators on this thread...you've all been great about this, but I want to make sure that we're staying within the forums naming & shaming rules.
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No worries I strictly not named any content creator because it's their privacy just wanted to hear opinions about this subject ❤️
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Which is common amongst many content creators, and fogwhisper's even. However I do believe there are some good people with equally amazing content if not better at times. Also damn it you always find a way to reword my opinions better then I ever do.
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Ey...
I've been good damn it.
I haven't been name and shaming Anyone.
....Cept Billy..
Billy still gets nuh respect from me
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Lol well they sure did reword my opinion 😂 some ppl just have wording in their finger while I need to write paragraph to get to my point lol
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Not really. I mean popular people can have influence on others but a lot of gamers are vile and devoid of any empathy.
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