How often does NOED impact your survivor games?

Not too often. Maybe 1 in 5 games. And if it does go off, the impact isn't that significant. Swap one active meta perk for NOED while the gens are up and the result is likely similar.

Players have to remember that playing most of the game with 3 perks is a pretty significant handicap. NOED might feel bad, but it feels more impactful than it is in many situations.

Once every 10 to 15 games maybe something will happen? I barely notice it these days (been playing since 2017)

I've seen noed on 5 of the last 30 or so killers I've faced. As far as how the perk affected the match? 3 times there wasn't a totem that was left up and dull, so it never activated. (Boon meta making it easier than ever to stop before it activates).

1 killer managed to go from a 0k with 6 hooks to a 2k, but that was primarily because the person trying to go for the save literally ran into a wall. It was after the totem had been found and dealt with as well, so I'm not sure how much credit the perk can get, since as far as I could tell, it resulted in 1 down total while it was active.

Last one was against bubba, he hooked and camped the last survivor near a gate, we saw him, saw he had noed, and went to the other gate, resulting in a 3E

Very very rarely do I see NOED anymore. You can kind of tell when a killer is going to have it when they tend to make alot of bad plays and mistakes, so i go for totems if I think they could have it.

I've maybe seen it twice in the past month

Very rare actually to even see it since its mostly on M1 killers.

And out of those games which have Noed in play, I would say 1 in 4 can get good value that it impacts the outcome of the match significantly.

Most of those times it get cleansed soon after first down, or the player on hook gets abandoned if it cannot be found.

I've been keeping track of my survivor matches for a little while now. I've gotten data from 248 matches (I have less survivor play of late, as my usual group of people I SWF with have been busy, and while I do play solo survivor, if I'm going it alone, I'll usually prefer to play killer). Those matches do not include results skewed by rage-quits/DC's early in a game by a "teammate", or by a handful of matches where I or my team were out to "meme" and not actually playing to "win" (like the night with our 4-person SWF where I literally threw matches to get Power Struggle to work, lol).

Out of those 248 matches, NOED was run by the killer in 32 of them, or right under 13%. In those matches where the killer ran NOED, in 10 of those -- 4% of the overall match count, and 31% of those matches in which NOED was run -- the killer ended up with a 3K or a 4K, and in at least a few of those 4K's, the match never made it to the Endgame and NOED activating.

For context, even though we all know SBMM isn't functioning the way it should be, my escape rate over the entirety of those matches is hovering around the 60% range, for what that's worth. I don't run NOED as a killer unless I'm in the rare case of trying a meme build (NOED, NWO, Blood Warden, etc.).

As always, this is one player's experience. Yours may vary.

Almost 0, for as much as it's complained about I never see it.

Mandy, when was the last time we were shared Perk stats?

Its about time someone made a collection of when stats were given out, ill do it if people can find the stats for me.

Stats do make really good fuel for dunking someone who just spouts opinions, that's true. I do enjoy getting factual when discussing game ideas.

But its ofc never fun to get told, "your opinion is wrong."

If the killer is being absolutely clowned on, he probably has NOED. It's the most obvious crutch an underperforming killer can rely on to try and bring a game back (don't @ me with your academic essay about it being balanced. I don't care about the balance. I'm saying it's a crutch)

With this in mind, I run small game and generally make time to run around cleansing for totems if we're stomping.

Like Noed is whatever it's just frustrating when you look a killer all game just to die on first hook cause of Noed.

I usually expect a NOED from a killer with obvious lack of experience and at high MMR.

Rarely in between.

It comes up occasionally, but it's not like every killer uses it. I used to look everywhere I could for the totems and if I couldn't find it I would try and trade if I had bt. Unfortunately the new mmr system punishes me for making trades during end game so there's nothing I can do for them anymore. If I go for the trade I'll be punished with worse teammates and the person I saved is rewarded for making a "skilled play."

I'm the same way. Once the gate is opened, I'm out unless I'm reasonably certain I can manage a save and get us both out.

What do you mean? Bad/incorrect arguments should get countered by good/true arguments, and if the good arguments cannot confutate the bad arguments, then probably the bad arguments are not actually bad but sometimes true, so I don't see the reason not to share stats if not the fear of negative, tho many times constructive, feedback from the community.

Its interesting seeing how often NOED pops up for everyone.

I connect mostly to brazilian killers and 99% of the time they have NOED lol doesn't happen as often when connecting to other countries.

I encounter it very rarely.

I expect it when the killer isn't very experienced. Usually it allows him to get one down, more or less.

It's extremely rare on experienced killers. (Unless, maybe, they are going for an end-game build.)

I bring NoED for my endgame builds. No gen slowdown, just PWYF, No Way Out, Bloodwarden and NoED. I still need to hook everyone at least once to get value out of no way out though, so there's that. Half the time I don't even get to endgame, meaning 3 / 4 perks did likely nothing.