If we are going to punish DC we should punish dodging

Dodging because of bad ping is acceptable. Any other reason you are simply a coward.

Those who claim lobby dodging doesn't hurt anyone are flat wrong. Lobby wait times are made worse by every dodge.

That said I fail to see why people oppose a ban for lobby dodging. Obviously you couldn't ban for dodging a single lobby. But if it was set at a 30% threshold. Are you really telling me people who meet that aren't harming the game and deserve a ban?

My idea:

1) In the lobby, only show Survivor usernames at first. Survivor characters are not revealed at this time.

2)Then, once all the players have filled the lobby, bring up a prompt that shows all players' pings (Killer's username is not revealed) and a asks if everyone is okay with starting the countdown timer. Anyone who says no is kicked out with no penalty, and the remaining players keep waiting until everyone says yes.

3) From there, when everyone says yes, THEN all the Survivors are shown as normal, and players configure their loadouts according while the timer counts down. From here, anyone who leaves will be treated as having DC'd.

This is just the gist of it. The idea is that people can leave safely if they see too high pings and stuff, but they can't keep lobbydodging when they see loadouts they don't like.

You could also just deal with the various reasons killers constantly dodge lobbies rather than forcing them to subject themselves to it.

@Arroz"Negative past experiences with one or more people in the lobby"

Apparently. Including reasons such as:

"Player has X number of hours more than me in DBD"

@Peanits Allowing killers to view steam profiles/names and unpunished dodging essentially allows killers to blacklist survivor players.

Why are you overlooking this obvious hypocrisy? Your team does not support MLGA yet you sanction a budget MLGA in the form of the lobby design. Your reasoning is lacking.

Does it make any sense to you that Killers should be able to dodge me for any reason? I've had teammates AND forum posters tell me that wearing cosmetics subjects me to lobby dodging. Is that fair to you?

Killer prep is an intended feature of the game. I'd rather a killer slap on an Ebony Mori than get the unwarranted privilege of soft-banning me from playing with him.

What's toxic is when killers circumvent this and forego the entire freaking lobby. Like whose bright idea was this anyway?

Devs keep using "coordination with other survivors" as an excuse not to buff certain perks, but how the hell are any of us supposed to make use of perks like Saboteur when you get constantly kicked out with 2 or more toolboxes to begin with?

Bravo way to never get a response. lmao

Too much truth and you'll only get silence and downvotes.

this was pretty much my exact arguement the last time one of these threads got talked about. There's a hundred reasons to dodge that lobby. As of right now, the most common lobby dodge is due to Ping. That will change once we have dedicated servers.

This is the most common dodge because both killers and survivors dodge for this reason. Survivors want to hit skillchecks without a natural Huntress' Lullaby and Killers don't want to chase a survivor that has the spirits passive phasing.

The rest still need dealt with. But let's be honest. As long as the internet lets you talk to random people while hiding your face, there will always be a dick hole spouting racist ######### in random game lobbies. It's as guaranteed as someone using in game destruction to make a penis. It's something you have to endur. Due to the nature of such people, they will always abuse what they can to amuse themselves. So the best answer that can be offered, is to let people leave the lobbies that have such people in them.

Yes, we SHOULD be punishing people who want to avoid a 500 ping killer and vice versa.

I lose IQ every time I read this forum.

Oh yeah remember that guy from before who was extremely toxic? Well you are forced to play with them again! yay for common sense!

And what stops killers to switch at the last second like survivors do with items ? Every killer could just first pick wraith and then switch to nurse with already made build and addons.

You want something but you don't think about it enough. System is made how it is now because it makes kind of sence. Survivor items without ultra rare addons don't have enough impact on the match unlike killer's addons and the choice of played killer.

And also there was a time when survivors could see through steam name of which killer they went against. Almost every survivors had on their steam profile several pages of killer names they dodge because they didn't like the way they played. Thankfully it got changed since the amount of dodging survivors was unreasonbly high.

Yes you have to. Toxicity is strongly rooted in almost all DBD matches and if you want to play DBD you will face tons of toxic players and you can't do anything about it except growing thicker skin. If you can't handle it then DBD isn't a game for you.

So if toxicity is such a big deal to you then either switch to beiing killer main and make yourself a list of players you dodge (at red ranks literally every game has toxic survivors) or quit DBD. Maybe in future there will be some new feature to combat your problem but currently there is none.

And giving survivors ability to dodge won't solve the problem or even help game's health so it's not happeing for many reasons already stated.

It's pretty simple to fix.

The lobby is 60 seconds long.

The timer starts once everyoje is in and the ping has stabilised.

You have 20 seconds to leave in that time due to ping, no names, chars or anything else is shown.

Once it hits 40 seconds survivors and killer are locked in and leaving means you get a longer wait to requeue, survivors are then shown with clothed and items.

No names or profiles are shown as that breeds toxicity, they are also removed from the end game lobby so people don't write on profile, yes there is another way but not everyone will use that, the point is not to make it so easy.

At 25s or when the survivors ready up they can no longer change loadouts and the killer has that time to setup to combat it.

Make the end game chat an option at the end to be shown, no auto chat no instant toxicity.

Ping is sorted and you have time to leave, survivors can use what they like and killers have time to setup without last second switching.

If someone is toxic by intentionally griefing in game they can be reported and dealt with that way, in the end dodging doesn't help stamp that out only by playing and recording can the devs do something about those players.

I just couldn't understand this lobby dodging problem. I have played DBD for 10 months in the asian region and I don't really have lobby dodging issue so serious as claimed in this thread. I do get dodge sometime but it is usually when my ping is high or I was with a 4-man team. If I go solo, I never get dodge even with a team full of loadout.

I mainly play survivor but I really do not like the way some people try to shame killer into playing what they think killer should play.

+1. The whole idea sounds good.

Also, there's no need to know anyone's name in this game.

Never understood the point of having a chat, either.

You must always play 4 man SWF and never play killer if you haven't experienced 3 man bugged lobbies.

They're really common.

And maybe that explains your whole problem with dodging. A lot of people have zero fun playing vs 4 man swf.

Another honest, upstanding, unbiased forum poster spreading his truth amongst the masses.