Is ghostface being revealed by downed and hooked survivors intended by the devs?

Its just stupid that downed survivor or hooked survivor disable hes power i though it wanst intended but seen this its just worse i can see most survivor follow gf crawling xd

I noticed you left out The Shape, any reason why? He is the most similar to GF.

@Janick

It's simply incorrect to say Ghostface has no limitation in camping, because it's a fundamental built in part of his power.

His power is disabled by looking at him. In order to counter him camping and exposing people, all the unhooker needs to do is look around before rushing out into the open to unhook someone and BAM, power on cooldown for a LONG duration. Half a hook stage of cooldown.

It is incredibly similar to Hag in the sense that his ability to camp is determined by survivor decisions to not rush to the hook without thinking about it.

Yeah, if survivors choose to ignore which killer they're up against and play poorly, they should be punished for it. The killer's power shouldn't be disabled as a safety net for poor decisions made by the other team.

On top of that, if it were only hooked survivors then it MAY be acceptable, but preventing power use around downed survivors destroys a lot of potential plays to be made when a survivor gets downed. Even recent perks like Infectious Fright could have been interesting on him, as you could down a survivor and use the reveal to mark a new target and down them as well. Instead, your power is disabled AGAIN as a safety net so survivors can't be downed for not reacting to a killer being right near them.

His power being disabled by mildly aware survivors is already enough to cover these situations. It is completely unrealistic to say that an unhook or a heal is a free mark when through this whole time, the unhooker and healer has the capacity to prevent that from occurring by simply playing well and turning their camera before making hasty decisions.

All Ghost Face would have to do is hide somewhere near the hook, stalk the survivor who is going for the save and then instadown him. It would probably be the most effective way to play Ghost Face. But that would simply be bad design and wouldn't be fun for survivors at all. If Ghost Face will still need more buffs, than I do hope he gets them, but that's one thing I hope doesn't get changed.

True, but still it can be hard to spot Ghost Face in some situations, and I just think that many players would play him like that if hooked survivors couldn't disable his power. I think it's the right decision of the devs. They need to try and make a killer as fun as possible for both sides. And having hordes of Ghost Faces just stay at the hook would be pretty bad.

It's the right approach for all killers in my opinion. Encourage and reward killers more for playing skillfully and in a way that's fun for killers and survivors, and less for camping and tunneling, which isn't so fun to go against. This isn't an issue of balance however, but of design. The more fun an online game is for both competing sides, the better the game is.

Friendly reminder Hag can still place 10+ traps around a hook, and Leatherface can use Insidious.

To crutch GF like this shows they really dont have any consistency when it comes to game design.

Gen Rush only exists due to the killers fault of not applying enough pressure.

He's not exactly quiet when camping. Shape's camping is exactly like Bubba or Billy. They practically announce it without Insidious.

I'm guessing he didn't mention it because it's self explanatory.

It isn't necessarily about camping, it's about anything that happens while someone is on the hook. If survivors rush to unhook like they usually do, you aren't allowed to punish them for it on GF, differently to EVERY OTHER KILLER who can still use their power around a hooked person.

You chase someone, and they go near the hook? Well you can't use your stealth to mindgame a jungle gym, because that dude over there is hooked. You down someone, and know an ally is on a gen nearby. Can you make a play by going for them in shroud? Nope, that guy you downed gets to permanently disable your power at 0 cost.

That's exactly what I was thinking, you put it way better than I could! I suppose that means the safest place to run from Ghost Face is your hooked teammate, which is pretty dumb. Ghost Face is from Scream and Scream is a movie about how characters can make all the right moves and know all the horror movie tropes and still die, it's about how a killer will always win, but this Ghost Face? Apparently, he always loses.

Okay, I can see that. I think it would be fair to reduce detection range of hooked survivors to something small like 4-8m.

Well first of all I fail to see how Ghost Face won't be fun for killers because they can't hide near a hook and wait until someone comes to unhook the hooked survivor.

However, as I said in my first post, if Ghost Face still feels to weak, and of course that can lead to him not being so fun, I do hope they buff him further. However, I would just hope that they buff him in a way that makes him more fun to play as, but not less fun to verse as survivor. Something that's important for all killers. This isn't about balance, but about game design.

I'd argue DBD's biggest problem is that both sides have viable strategies that are extremely frustrating to deal with for the opposing side. That's something an online game should reduce to it's possible minimum. Right now it can at times feel like a coin toss whether you'll enjoy the next match or not, which in my eyes is flawed design for an online game.