The Shape - No Longer a Viable Killer?
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Scratched Mirror is fine now as it was before - before you had to waste a perk (M & A) to make it work, now you can capitalise on everyone which is not super cautious and running spine chill.
Plus, as I said elsewhere, it's an addon that should promote fun games, scary as it is. Even if survivors run the whole game from you, they'll still be on edge, it will be fun regardless.
Of course if the reason to run SM was to burn Lerry's or something like that and get an easy 4K well, I understand one could be upset for that one time out of one hundred games where a few survivors run SC, just deal with it and 4K the next game ;)
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I've played (pantsless!) Myers a lot since the update. TBH, I have not had any problem getting out of tier 1. Sure, I haven't been able to fully fill tier 1 while a survivor sits on a gen as often as before. Sure, I can't 99 tier one and go stab said gen worker as often. But you just stalk them while they run away. It's what you have to do going from tier 2 to tier 3 anyway.
Does this make running scratched mirror more of a gamble? Sure! But I think saying Myers is no longer a viable killer is an overreaction.
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I find these changes extremely disappointing. Myers has been my favorite killer for almost 2 years, and Scratched mirror was my favorite build. I don’t understand how some people don’t get how bad these changes hurt him if people are actually running those perks. He’s the second slowest killer in the game, and he has virtually no lunge. He was already, by far, the easiest killer in the game to loop. His ability to remain undetected was the ONLY thing that gave him an edge.
In my experience, spine chill is a pretty common perk. Also, I would love for somebody to explain how ruin is supposed to be a “crutch” perk when survivors smash through the gens within 5-7 mins if you don’t take it? Especially on low-mid tier killers. I mean, are you supposed to be a bad killer if you can’t snowball and win the match within the first few minutes on any given killer against any given team, or what?? I would love it if the game was in a state that didn’t require killers to choose between taking ruin/corrupt intervention, and getting gen rushed.
I just don’t understand the logic. Ruin/NOED are crutch perks. While Adrenaline, DS, Borrowed time, and Dead hard being the meta is perfectly fine. They are the 4 most commonly run perks IN THE GAME, bar none. Being given chance after chance after chance that you wouldn’t normally have without them, somehow isn’t a crutch? Please.
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No he doesn't dude
Why do people keep lying about mikey boi lol
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So if Adrenaline, DS, BT, and Dead Hard are the survivor meta perks then why is everyone freaking out over Spine Chill? I still, for the life of me cannot figure this out.
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Try empathizing a little. A beloved mid tier killer is nerfed (however slightly in your mind) to maintain consistency with his replacement. Now he has all of the weaknesses of the other stealth killers ON TOP OF HIS OWN BUILT IN LIMITATIONS.
Currently gf is basically a strictly better myers. Slightly less snowball, none of the downsides.
Yes some people are overreacting but this is an unnecessary change that makes a weak killer weaker. he's no legion but he's on his way to being a shittier pig.
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It's not that I'm not empathetic. I think it's all relative to be honest. I've still been doing fine with Myers. Also, I am more successful with Legion than most killers.
I also don't think Spine Chill is going to become meta. I think it's a perk that some people love and swear by but it's one of the harder ones to get used to using effectively in my experience. I honestly think most people would rather use the perk slot for something else.
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Why are you still quibbling over the degree to which the nerf hurts him?
THAT ISN'T THE POINT. Its beyond insane that people are still saying git gud to this. This is the empathy disconnect. You bringing up legion really confirms it lol
Try actually understanding what I'm saying and where I'm coming from before you try and rebut it.
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I never said git gud. I was simply sharing my experience.
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So just ignoring the post to focus on one tiny thing you can rebut?
Nah no empathy gap here!
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Myers was always a mid-tier killer.
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Yup. Didn't need more counterplay lol
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It's clear anything I say will be wrong anyway. I'm good at Legion so clearly my opinions are completely worthless. You're so cool why wouldn't I want to debate you? Bye Felicia.
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That you are trying to make this a debate is a pretty good example of you not engaging in this discussion in good faith. Can you even explain to me my objections to this nerf?
The legion crack at the end is priceless btw
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This all depends what your definition of "viable" is.
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You don't need to see him coming from far away. His breathing is also loud and you could probably hear his footsteps on the indoor maps. You're more likely to take a hit, but remember how slow he is and use that to your advantage. Some loops become infinites when used against him.
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How often do you see Premonition? Basically never.
Spine Chill is gaining in popularity, but there's still a dozen other perks that are more common.
Besides, you should be happy you don't need to run Monitor & Abuse anymore to have a 0 meter Terror Radius.
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Considering the entirety of your gameplay as Myers should be levelling out of T1 as fast as possible, that change will most likely be negligible to his viability.
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Michael was okay when you didn't know he was coming. Now, meh
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Wait, what? So I'm sitting on a bunch of Scratched Mirrors that are now trash?! And those didn't get reworked. #########. Vault Master Myers and Tombstones for everyone then.
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I take it no-one read the Devs posting about all Stealth Killers getting Undetectable to maintain consistency. This was not a nerf, it is a rebalance at best. He is affected by Spinechill and Premonition, but has 0 TR instead of 6M at T1. I can’t wait till I get a Offering for an Indoors map so I can try out a new build without M&A taking up a spot.
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I did five scratched mirror Myers games tonight and did not encounter a single spine chill or premonition.
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