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Spirit Doesn't Need A Nerf, Only A Better Tell When She's Phase Walking
Honestly the only things about Spirit I do find overpowered is some of her add ons primary being Prayer Beads and maybe both Yakuyoke Amulet and Wakizashi Saya, otherwise I think Spirit in concept is a fine and fun killer.
The main issue for me (and I imagine for some) is the fact is quiet difficult to tell when she's phase walking aside from some of the following:
(As a side note their is no in-game tips or anyway to know half of this stuff unless you gone against her many times which even I don't know.)
1: Her Hair Will Straighten Up
This is the most consistent way of telling but problem is you would have to be close enough to even notice this so maybe make it more obvious?
2: Her Glass Shards Will Glow
Not only can the be obscured or hard to tell from both the lighting of the map (Any very dark or overly bright map) and the cosmetics the Spirit is possibly wearing can obscure the glass shards on her body (Her Blight skin changes the color to a bright orange like color which makes it even harder to tell) So just increase the glow of the shards?
3: You Can Hear Her Foot Steps If She's Close Enough
If you can actually hear her footsteps at that point she's already close enough to where you can't really react to this and can get a hit on you unless your running Dead Hard, It also can be obscured by both terror radious/chase music or the phase walking sound effect or grunts of pains or gen noises so perhaps just make it more audible when she's phase walking like Wraith's deep footstep noises when he's cloaked.
4: The Grass Moves When She's Phase Walking
This one is true but think about this in a normal situation, you have to be at most looking around your feet or behind you for any grass movement likely during a chase which is hard to focus on (Or if your on a map with no grass at all then you only might have her foot steps to notice or else get [BAD WORD]).
I'm not sure what they could do with this but maybe during the phase walking you could see glimpses of her as if she was phasing in and out like an actual Spirit would? (Wraith kind of has a gleam look when moving so you can actually tell where he is if your being chased by him while invisible.)
Again I don't want Spirit to get nerfed in a big way, in fact I argue them reworking bad killers like Doctor is better but I feel these issues when combined together for the average to above average survivor going up against a Spirit makes the experience unfair or just un-fun. Me personally I can enjoy going against a Spirit but I would like to at least have more then one consistent way of knowing when she's active her power.
They did announce they will be taking a look at her and I only hope is just to fix the issues I mentioned above because it would be very sad if they turned her into legion tier.
(Also please BHVR give her a bloody vault animation, she's the only killer so far in this game without an actual dedicated vault animation for survivors to see.)
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I'm curious to see the videos of this, honestly I always presumed she did move grass but I could be wrong. Even then crows are inconsistent on many of the maps.
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What other queue could be added? a bright neon sign that flashes and says PHASING!!! MOVE OUT OF THE WAY!!!
In all seriousness, I think the queues she already gives are fine. The hair is the easiest one for me personally so I don't even know what could be added to make it more obvious. If anything else were added it would ruin her mindgame potential.
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You get that that would be a nerf, right?
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No, let's nerf her cause sHe HaS no COunTers AnD I CaNt bULlY aNd LoOp hEr fOR FiVe GeNs
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As funny as that is, I do really think Spirit basekit wise is a perfect killer, it be absolutely shameful if bhvr after the "fix" they give to her completely gutted her as a killer like what happened with Legion.
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Spirit is the gold standard for how a Killer should be balanced. If they nerf her into the ground i will be very disappointed.
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I feel her Billy and Huntress are good examples of "Well Rounded" balanced killers if only things like Insta Saw or Iredecent Hatchet didn't exist.
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If you think Spirit's base kit is fine, then why would you want to add more ways to tell when she's phasing, because that would be a nerf to her base kit IMO.
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Have you seen what they did to nurse? Expect something similar to spirit. They will make her unplayable at red ranks.
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this lol surv mains logic be like if I cant 1v1 the killer and bully him he is probably op and needs nerf
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Her mind games are not the problem, its just an easy thing to complain about. The real "problem" is that she is very good at ending chases. Spirit's amazing speed and invisibility during the chase are what gets people, not the mind games.
From what i see most use of Spirit's power revolve around hunting down someone who is running away. Indications arent a problem since the survivor already knows the Spirit is phasing at them and you arent going to see grass rustle during the heat of the moment.
A pallet stand off or gen grabber are the extreme minority of kills
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Your biased comments aren't helpful or productive to any discussion
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Not yours either
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How am I baised you assume every survivor that wants spirit changes wants to bully killers not every survivor who plays this game is like that
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You comment on every killer nerf thread. Not biased at all.
Yeah you're right, not every survivor but 90% of them
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Ffs. The op very specifically said they don't want a hard nerf. Just a minor tweak to add a little better counter play. And you are still bitching.
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literally the only killer I want changes for is spirit hell I wouldn't mind some legion buffs some bubba buffs
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I can kinda see an argument for Spirit to have Wraith's invisible shimmer when phasing, since they both enter the "spirit realm" when phasing/cloaking right? Maybe that would help with a lot of issues players have with her?
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The last update made her footsteps louder and you can hear her phasing even in the terror radious. What else do you want?
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Why don't we buff the weaker killers first to add some variety in red ranks?
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I haven't asked for anything. I also haven't gotten to play since the last update. Those may well prove to be more than enough. Assuming they aren't bugs.
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true true I can agree on that
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I still don't her her phasing in the terror radious on pc. Her footsteps also still aren't noticable at all.
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It's not only on PS4
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/97804/yamaokas-haunting-sound#latest
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She need to scream
WAAAAAAA
whenever she phases.
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I think that she should go completely still when phasing. It would be creepy and let the survivor know they're in danger. She could use this against survivors, though. Make them think she's going around when she's actually waiting patiently, like a Venus fly trap waiting for an unsuspecting fly.
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So uhhh what exactly is the point of this comment other than to mock the side that is arguing against you?
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She does not need a tell when phase walking. This would completely remove the ability to mindgame someone and pretend to phase walk.
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