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They Broke The Game For Survivors
I think they seriously screwed up the game for survivors with this last patch. Killers now have the advantage, they can pretty much see exactly where you are now and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away. Your gonna get hooked and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed. So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more hacking and tunneling, camping killers. Very annoying update, this is the only developer that actually can break something that is already broken. SMH they should be embarrassed.
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It's fine, just become a better survivor man. I had loads of fun with the patch as survivor.
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No, the patch is fine. Git gud.Jeeperrs said:I think they seriously screwed up the game for survivors with this last patch. Killers now have the advantage, they can pretty much see exactly where you are now and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away. Your gonna get hooked and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed. So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more hacking and tunneling, camping killers. Very annoying update, this is the only developer that actually can break something that is already broken. SMH they should be embarrassed.
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Aren't the killers suppose to be this opressive, powerful force anyway?
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Laughable.
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@Jeeperrs said:
I think they seriously screwed up the game for survivors with this last patch. Killers now have the advantage, they can pretty much see exactly where you are now and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away. Your gonna get hooked and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed. So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more hacking and tunneling, camping killers. Very annoying update, this is the only developer that actually can break something that is already broken. SMH they should be embarrassed.lol
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Awww now you require skill to be a survivor boo woo2
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I used to be a Survivor main, but 2 patch ago it is extremely hard (even with more than 2k hours like me). I will play killer now, despite the fact queue will be infinite, nobody playing survivor right now. Great Job
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Killers have the advantage? Good. That's the way an asymmetrical game should be.
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Killers are litterally supposed to have the advantage
Its an asymetrical power struggle
The survivors are supposed to play smart, not run in circles for 7 minuets straight.
1 survivor =/= 1Killer
4 survivors = 1 killer
Survivors should never have an outright power advantage over the killer unless they are all playing well, and playing smart
Git gud.11 -
i saw 'killers now have the advantage' and quit reading.... good luck with your thred and #########....
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This is a fantastic patch.
We just need a DS rework, and hatch close and it is quite close to being balanced finally.
Survivors have held the cards for well over a year. Times are changing. Adapt. Killers have had to adapt and play stressed at times.
This isn't a do whatever the hell you want game anymore.
Stealth.
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@Dwight_Confusion said:
Stealth.
Yeah stealth when the killer now gets to see where you are even more yeah that's a laughable one considering survivors have been told to stealth before. The killers whined about stealth and got bbq and whispers and now do a gen well the killer sees everyone auras for several seconds. The old hide behind the gen aura doesn't work anymore.
I prefer a stealthy style instead of the pallet looping well now that the auras are more visible guess what killers are going to get pallet looped and window looped into oblivion now. Te majority of survivors that don't do it are going to resort to it now. I for one like the sb nerf since it forces a more stealthy style of play.
The aura changes just take away the stealthier play style even more. I might just start gong for the endless loop and pallet slam bit just to teach a lesson that be careful what you ask for. While I support buffing killers screwing over those who don't abuse game mechanics is stupid.
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@powerbats said:
@Dwight_Confusion said:
Stealth.
Yeah stealth when the killer now gets to see where you are even more yeah that's a laughable one considering survivors have been told to stealth before. The killers whined about stealth and got bbq and whispers and now do a gen well the killer sees everyone auras for several seconds. The old hide behind the gen aura doesn't work anymore.
I prefer a stealthy style instead of the pallet looping well now that the auras are more visible guess what killers are going to get pallet looped and window looped into oblivion now. Te majority of survivors that don't do it are going to resort to it now. I for one like the sb nerf since it forces a more stealthy style of play.
The aura changes just take away the stealthier play style even more. I might just start gong for the endless loop and pallet slam bit just to teach a lesson that be careful what you ask for. While I support buffing killers screwing over those who don't abuse game mechanics is stupid.
Do you really believe that people start to use those perks? Which perks will they quit using for those perks? BBQ, NOED, ruin?
You already know that there are survivors near the gen that is just finished. I don't need a perk to tell me that. Also, if the generator is finished, as long as all of the survivors are over there which is quite rare, there is no reason for me to go there. The gen is already finished. Killers should be putting pressure on the unfinished generators, not hanging around dead zones and eat pallets near the finished generators. If anything, those perks are in favor of survivors.
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The gen completion bubble makes it impossible to see the Auras from Bitter murmurs. All you need to do is literally stay there for 5 seconds, or mindgame the same way as bbq (head 1 direction, double back, etc).powerbats said:@Dwight_Confusion said:
Stealth.
Yeah stealth when the killer now gets to see where you are even more yeah that's a laughable one considering survivors have been told to stealth before. The killers whined about stealth and got bbq and whispers and now do a gen well the killer sees everyone auras for several seconds. The old hide behind the gen aura doesn't work anymore.
I prefer a stealthy style instead of the pallet looping well now that the auras are more visible guess what killers are going to get pallet looped and window looped into oblivion now. Te majority of survivors that don't do it are going to resort to it now. I for one like the sb nerf since it forces a more stealthy style of play.
The aura changes just take away the stealthier play style even more. I might just start gong for the endless loop and pallet slam bit just to teach a lesson that be careful what you ask for. While I support buffing killers screwing over those who don't abuse game mechanics is stupid.
It also doesn't show *all* survivor auras, just those within however many meters from the gen completed. Also survivors literally got the same damn thing (dark sense -see the killer whenever you finish a gen, I don't hear killers crying over that...)
Great news if you like Stealth, now calm spirit hard counters Doctors base kit (since he is the most anti stealth killer), and goes great in stealth builds in general now.
I really wish people played enough after a patch to learn how to work with changes. It's honestly not that bad. Stealth can still be done, just need to adapt a bit with some perk changes in play.4 -
@RuneStarr said:
The gen completion bubble makes it impossible to see the Auras from Bitter murmurs. All you need to do is literally stay there for 5 seconds, or mindgame the same way as bbq (head 1 direction, double back, etc).
It also doesn't show all survivor auras, just those within however many meters from the gen completed. Also survivors literally got the same damn thing (dark sense -see the killer whenever you finish a gen, I don't hear killers crying over that...)
Great news if you like Stealth, now calm spirit hard counters Doctors base kit (since he is the most anti stealth killer), and goes great in stealth builds in general now.
I really wish people played enough after a patch to learn how to work with changes. It's honestly not that bad. Stealth can still be done, just need to adapt a bit with some perk changes in play.Apparently the aura bubble isn't blocking the killer form seeing survivors when the killer uses the perk. I've seen killer use BM before in place of Ruin so more will use it now. I don't use dark sense and would be fine if they removed it. I've seen killers not use either Ruin or Noed and sometimes not even BBQ depending on killer and map.
Also the Calm Spirit is either bugged or the tooltip is off according to posts already out there on it. I'm going to run some tests on kyf later to see what's happening. As far as SB goes it's fine and long overdue, not sure about the other exhaustion nerfs since i don't ever really use any of those.
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@Jeeperrs said:
Im already seeing more hacking
Very annoying updateHow in the hell do you even relate those two?
@Jeeperrs said:
Killers now have the advantageLike they should, being the side with less people.
@Jeeperrs said:
they can pretty much see exactly where you are nowLike they said, you can't keep hiding forever, the devs do not want this.
@Jeeperrs said:
and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away.If you could never get away without Sprint Burst, and i mean truly away, like losing them and not prolonging the chase, then you need to git gud.
@Jeeperrs said:
Your gonna get hookedPart of the game. It's also part of the game for Survivors to escape, yet no Survivor has ever complained about that.
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and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed.Though you're not guaranteed to lose (hatch escapes often give me chills as to how tense i get, i love it), but i can agree someone disconnecting is frustrating and can lead to hard mode.
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So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more tunneling, camping killers.And all Killers had loopers and teabaggers 24/7. They're no saints, but the other they aren't saints either. It's just a game, ignore their taunts.
Not even gonna address the last part, it's too silly to take seriously.
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Huh too bad "stealth" doesn't exist in this game because of bad map design and silly big player models with claudette being the only stealthy character.
The same applies to the way survivors shake off the killer out of a chase and the same goes for why survivors loop the killer instead of trying to get out of the chase. The answer is that you can't, because of the same reason. Map design. (and a mechanic called bloodlust, which only rewards poor killer skills in order to get an easy kill)
A lot of issues would be already fixed if the devs would have cared enough for the feedback they so much "desire".
Atleast playing killer is getting less and less stressful than before but I don't see any reason to discredit another person's arguments only because you main killer. (This isn't reddit after all, the whiney killer main domain)3 -
Cry some more.2
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@Jeeperrs said:
Killers now have the advantageYeah, Sure!
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Oh sweet summer child. BBQ came from the butt hurt of survivers screeching about camping. The whole perk is to incentivize leaving the hook for far off survivors and to hook all 4, not just focus down. You did this. You and your survivor main ilk are responsible for that monster perk and still you complain. Winter is coming and with it the age of the killers. Adapt or scream on the hook.powerbats said:The killers whined about stealth and got bbq and whispers
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Waaaaaaah, waah waaaaaaah!
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@Jeeperrs said:
I think they seriously screwed up the game for survivors with this last patch. Killers now have the advantage, they can pretty much see exactly where you are now and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away. Your gonna get hooked and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed. So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more hacking and tunneling, camping killers. Very annoying update, this is the only developer that actually can break something that is already broken. SMH they should be embarrassed.This guy genuinely think that the killer having the advantage is a bad thing.
Are you ######### kidding me?? Killers are SUPPOSED to have the advantage! You're supposed to feel vulnerable. You should feel like there's not much chance. Who do you think should have the advantage, the victims???
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Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” ######### enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.3 -
They didn’t break the game with this patchJeeperrs said:I think they seriously screwed up the game for survivors with this last patch. Killers now have the advantage, they can pretty much see exactly where you are now and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away. Your gonna get hooked and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed. So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more hacking and tunneling, camping killers. Very annoying update, this is the only developer that actually can break something that is already broken. SMH they should be embarrassed.
it’s been one of the best patches in a long time. Stop crying and adapt.2 -
calm downSovererignKing said:Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” [BAD WORD] enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.5 -
Yea it kinda felt like reading a manifesto towards the end.Lowbei said:
calm downSovererignKing said:Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” [BAD WORD] enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.4 -
@Jeeperrs said:
I think they seriously screwed up the game for survivors with this last patch. Killers now have the advantage, they can pretty much see exactly where you are now and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away. Your gonna get hooked and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed. So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more hacking and tunneling, camping killers. Very annoying update, this is the only developer that actually can break something that is already broken. SMH they should be embarrassed.Can we stop saying "Nerf to sprint burst", is was a "nerf" to all exhaustion perks, not just SB. I don't understand where this idea comes from.
The patch is fine, I have not had more or less success since the patch started, take a month to adapt before complaining.
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@Jeeperrs said:
I think they seriously screwed up the game for survivors with this last patch. Killers now have the advantage, they can pretty much see exactly where you are now and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away. Your gonna get hooked and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed. So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more hacking and tunneling, camping killers. Very annoying update, this is the only developer that actually can break something that is already broken. SMH they should be embarrassed.
The killer is supposed to have an advantage.Post edited by ShrimpTwiggs on3 -
Nah, I’m allowed to as angry as I want. So I kindly invite you to get bent.Lowbei said:
calm downSovererignKing said:Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” [BAD WORD] enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.3 -
@SovererignKing said:
Lowbei said:
SovererignKing said:Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” [BAD WORD] enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.
calm down
Nah, I’m allowed to as angry as I want. So I kindly invite you to get bent.
No need to be so rude. It's completely uncalled-for
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I’m very passionate about the game. It’s my favorite game, so when it gets ruined, I’m going to be upset. I don’t appreciate someone telling me what to do, or how to react to something I care about getting ruined.Sally55 said:@SovererignKing said:
Lowbei said:
SovererignKing said:Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” [BAD WORD] enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.
calm down
Nah, I’m allowed to as angry as I want. So I kindly invite you to get bent.
No need to be so rude. It's completely uncalled-for
As as a side note : I can tell you’re new to the forums, so I’m just letting you know now, Lowbei is the resident troll and is far worse and far more rude than I am.1 -
agreed! Sovereign needs to stop before I call the police.Sally55 said:@SovererignKing said:
Lowbei said:
SovererignKing said:Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” [BAD WORD] enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.
calm down
Nah, I’m allowed to as angry as I want. So I kindly invite you to get bent.
No need to be so rude. It's completely uncalled-for
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I look at it this way, they buffed some really useless perks and made them so I would actually consider using them.
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I haven't played the update yet but it's looking good for the health and longevity of the game. Killers have less pressure and survivors won't be able to rely on crutch perks as much. Except well DS. The exhaustion nerf is fine imo. I've never needed exhaustion perks to keep a chase going and I've always had plenty of chances to stop running, which means I'll get Lithe back eventually.
Maybe it's too late but they're finally going in the right direction.0 -
Ugh, I'm completely against the hatch closing macanic. Yes, I'm a survivor main, but I also play a lot of killer and still think the same way. No one ever brings keys, and a good killer will keep that last survivor from doing that one generation anyway. So if a survivor is the last one alive, they're screwed no matter which way you put it. The hatch was at least a last chance resort. Closing the hatch is just taking that away.Dwight_Confusion said:This is a fantastic patch.
We just need a DS rework, and hatch close and it is quite close to being balanced finally.
Survivors have held the cards for well over a year. Times are changing. Adapt. Killers have had to adapt and play stressed at times.
This isn't a do whatever the hell you want game anymore.
Stealth.
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Hopefully survivors get better lol it's a horror show right now dc's left and right. People getting downed and hooked over and I'm the only one doing gens . Plus is it just me or did the killers save there mori's for the mid season patch lol. Even when I escape there's a mori0
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Balance wise, I agree. Gameplay wise, I have to disagree.shadowsfall42 said:I haven't played the update yet but it's looking good for the health and longevity of the game. Killers have less pressure and survivors won't be able to rely on crutch perks as much. Except well DS. The exhaustion nerf is fine imo. I've never needed exhaustion perks to keep a chase going and I've always had plenty of chances to stop running, which means I'll get Lithe back eventually.
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Dude I like you and think you’re cool. We’re pals. I don’t think you can blame this on survivors though. Seeing as everything that got nerfed on survivors was being called for by killers or people who play both with hella hours.SovererignKing said:
I’m very passionate about the game. It’s my favorite game, so when it gets ruined, I’m going to be upset. I don’t appreciate someone telling me what to do, or how to react to something I care about getting ruined.Sally55 said:@SovererignKing said:
Lowbei said:
SovererignKing said:Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” [BAD WORD] enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.
calm down
Nah, I’m allowed to as angry as I want. So I kindly invite you to get bent.
No need to be so rude. It's completely uncalled-for
As as a side note : I can tell you’re new to the forums, so I’m just letting you know now, Lowbei is the resident troll and is far worse and far more rude than I am.
everything survivor nerfed is crawling all over killer forum asking for nerfs
Here on the official forum
Running perks(Bc loops)-killer forum
bnp-gen rushing - killer forum
faster pickups Bc flashlights- killer forum
Self care Bc all the healing - killer forum
Stealth should be more viable- killer forum maybe some survivors but mostly killers posting in survivors
gen rushinf(all the new perks that show survivors around generators or let killers know when one is close to completion- killer forum
survivors did not ask for this.
anytime a survivor said they didn’t like the survivor changes they were bashed and told to git gud by killers.
im not crying this is just off observation alone. You can check around Bc it’s there. The devs gave killers exactly what they wanted.
Dont push this on survivors
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No, they're just starting to fix the game for Killers. You just need to adapt.
I've been noticing the amount of threads from salty Survivor mains who refuse to adapt saying that 2.1.0 is trash. It's making me think that maybe this is why BHVR hasn't nerfed DS yet. They foresaw the mountains of salt that will rise once the Survivors realize that their second crutch perk is gone and that they really have to adapt.
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I've played for several hours tonight and survived the majority of the matches I played. Even though I saw a plethora of Hags and Trappers trying out their new buffs with the buffed perks, didn't help them in any significant way.
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GLAD YOU'RE FEELING A TASTE OF A asymmetrical game
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And yet somehow, they nerfed huntress and basically nerfed wraith with the tinkerer change.0
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Jeeperrs said:
I think they seriously screwed up the game for survivors with this last patch. Killers now have the advantage, they can pretty much see exactly where you are now and with the nerf to sprint burst there is no getting away. Your gonna get hooked and if you have one crappy player or DC then you lost guaranteed. So now the toxicity is going to go up and Im already seeing more hacking and tunneling, camping killers. Very annoying update, this is the only developer that actually can break something that is already broken. SMH they should be embarrassed.
good. i can play killer again.0 -
This goes back farther than the current issues Hero.HeroLives said:
Dude I like you and think you’re cool. We’re pals. I don’t think you can blame this on survivors though. Seeing as everything that got nerfed on survivors was being called for by killers or people who play both with hella hours.SovererignKing said:
I’m very passionate about the game. It’s my favorite game, so when it gets ruined, I’m going to be upset. I don’t appreciate someone telling me what to do, or how to react to something I care about getting ruined.Sally55 said:@SovererignKing said:
Lowbei said:
SovererignKing said:Welcome to the game SURVIVORS asked for.
”Hiding and just doing Gens is boring. We want to be chased all game, that’s what’s fun!” ~ Nearly every single Survivor Main on Reddit and Steam forums for the last year and a half.
SURVIVORS perpetuated this lie over and over for nearly two damn years. This lie was used to protect Looping after infinite’s were taken away. Now, here we are. Survivors are getting what they asked for. No Stealth, less camping, less tunneling, less “boring” gameplay. The developers are rebalancing the WHOLE DAMN GAME to center it around Looping, because Survivors ASKED FOR IT.
Killers warned Survivors this was going to happen if they didn’t just drop the bullshit of Looping, and learned to hide and juke properly. Now, here we are. Congratulations Survivors, you really screwed the “hide and seek, Hunter vs. Prey” of this game. Now we play a giant game of “Tag! You’re It!” No thinking required, no skill, nothing. FOR BOH SIDES. Now it’s just a giant game of who’s better at abusing game mechanics than the other.
So so welcome to the game YOU created Survivors.
”You can run, but you can’t hide #########.” [BAD WORD] enjoy what you’ve done. I know I won’t. As both Killer and Survivor.
calm down
Nah, I’m allowed to as angry as I want. So I kindly invite you to get bent.
No need to be so rude. It's completely uncalled-for
As as a side note : I can tell you’re new to the forums, so I’m just letting you know now, Lowbei is the resident troll and is far worse and far more rude than I am.
everything survivor nerfed is crawling all over killer forum asking for nerfs
Here on the official forum
Running perks(Bc loops)-killer forum
bnp-gen rushing - killer forum
faster pickups Bc flashlights- killer forum
Self care Bc all the healing - killer forum
Stealth should be more viable- killer forum maybe some survivors but mostly killers posting in survivors
gen rushinf(all the new perks that show survivors around generators or let killers know when one is close to completion- killer forum
survivors did not ask for this.
anytime a survivor said they didn’t like the survivor changes they were bashed and told to git gud by killers.
im not crying this is just off observation alone. You can check around Bc it’s there. The devs gave killers exactly what they wanted.
Dont push this on survivors
It started with the old infinite’s. Survivors abused the crap out of infinite’s in order to win games by making it impossible for Killers to even hit them. This was the start of the “Stall to win” meta Survivors abused the crap out of. However, this didn’t stop them from yelling at the developers day in and day out about how it’s “impossible to lose the Killer in a chase.” This was the start of the “balance” war. The developers fixed infinite’s with the entity blockers. Then the developers said no more stalling the Killer indefinitely, learn to juke and hide.
Looping as its know today came about with Patch 1.4.0. Soon after Halloween Chapter released. This patch changed he Survivors hit boxes to be smaller, in order to make them harder targets to hit out in the open due to latency issues via peer-to-peer connection. The ######### hits at Pallets and window vaults were even worse before that as well. After a time, Survivors found out they could run circles around objects in tighter circles than Killers, thus, effectively negating the base game mechanic Killers are faster and can catch up to Survivors quickly, for brief short periods of time, over and over. This is Looping.
*Again* the balance of the game was thrown way off because Survivors found out they could “stall to win”. Not indefinitely, but easily long enough to win the game.
Killers were just sick of it. Sick of Survivors always finding easy ways to break the balance of the game. The developers tried twice, and failed, to prevent the “Stall to win” meta. Survivors loved it though, because it was easy wins. The developers finally said screw it, just incorporate it into the game.
Killers realized soon after, that they had no say so in which way the game was headed. Survivors kept finding ways to “stall to win.” The developers caved and just decided to incorporate “stall to win” tactics into the game, then focus the balance around it because, hey, it’s what the Survivors find “fun.” Killers stopped trying to influence the direction of the game, and instead just wanted balanced game play so they could have a chance in hell at winning.
The Killers with all the “Git Gud’s”, it’s because they stopped caring *how* the game was played, just as long as the game was *balanced*. Many Killers just gave up trying to tell the Survivors and developers that the game was headed in the wrong direction. They were tired of fighting two wars. One for balance, one for the direction of the game play. So they focused on one. The balance, and let the other go. You can’t win them all, so Survivors got what they wanted with the gameplay, Killers are getting what they want with the balance.
However, players like me are not happy with the way the game went. I hate Looping, however with the way the game is going, it’s going to be necessary soon (if it already isn’t).
Fact is, the Survivors did ask for this. This is the gameplay they wanted, just not the balance they wanted. Killers were just along for the ride. Many stopped caring how the game was played, just as long as it was balanced enough that if they could win, it was fine.
So, yes, I will blame Survivors. They started this mess with infinite’s. Then went to Looping. Now, here we are. The Killer needs no skill in finding and tracking Survivors. The Survivors need no skill in hiding and jukes. It’s now pure game mechanics.
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@SovererignKing Thank you. Finally, someone else who understands that, yes, Survivors are to blame. Someone else who remembers the game's history. Someone else who understands that the two sides are not equally to blame.
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