(video)Standard NOED killer. Op perks and add ons need to be nerfed for both survivors and killers.
First off I'm a pretty bad survivor. I play alot of killer so I know the maps which makes me ok at survivor.
This guy should not be in the red ranks. Gets boosted by 1 perk.
People say it helps with gen rush but when you're this bad at chasing you're obviously going to have 0 map pressure. These boosted NOED killers would probably have more fun playing at a rank matching their skill.
I don't know how to fix it. Remove movement speed buff? But all the boosted ######### needs to go already and have ranking represent some level of skill.
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Break the totem.24
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In the video you are INJURED (and have a medkit that has maximum charges) then he downs you and it reveals NOED, how was this clip demonstrating him being carried by NOED?
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@Easylife
Noed also increases speed on top of bloodlust.. and what does a medkit do to help when you are currently being chased?5 -
Easylife said:
In the video you are INJURED (and have a medkit that has maximum charges) then he downs you and it reveals NOED, how was this clip demonstrating him being carried by NOED?
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The speed increase of NOED is minor.
That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
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brokedownpalace said:i@Easylife
Noed also increases speed on top of bloodlust.. and what does a medkit do to help when you are currently being chased?3 -
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
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@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
It's barely the difference of Bloodlust 1. You can ask any Killer, Bloodlust 1 is barely noticeable.
And just because that Pig had troubles in that game, doesn't mean that that is the case in all games.
2 weeks ago, I played against an SWF group on high ranks and demolished them. I had them again in the very next game and they demolished me. Everyone can have bad games.
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@DocOctober said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
It's barely the difference of Bloodlust 1. You can ask any Killer, Bloodlust 1 is barely noticeable.
And just because that Pig had troubles in that game, doesn't mean that that is the case in all games.
2 weeks ago, I played against an SWF group on high ranks and demolished them. I had them again in the very next game and they demolished me. Everyone can have bad games.
I'm not even going to waste time on you if you think 4% movement speed is trivial lol...
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@Easylife said:
In the video you are INJURED (and have a medkit that has maximum charges) then he downs you and it reveals NOED, how was this clip demonstrating him being carried by NOED?I have a medkit? Wut? What happened to this forum lol
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@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
It's barely the difference of Bloodlust 1. You can ask any Killer, Bloodlust 1 is barely noticeable.
And just because that Pig had troubles in that game, doesn't mean that that is the case in all games.
2 weeks ago, I played against an SWF group on high ranks and demolished them. I had them again in the very next game and they demolished me. Everyone can have bad games.
I'm not even going to waste time on you if you think 4% movement speed is trivial lol...
Yeah right, keep trying to make an elephant out of a mosquito. I know better, I created the movement speed article on the Wiki, I know what is a significant boost and what isn't.
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Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
It's barely the difference of Bloodlust 1. You can ask any Killer, Bloodlust 1 is barely noticeable.
And just because that Pig had troubles in that game, doesn't mean that that is the case in all games.
2 weeks ago, I played against an SWF group on high ranks and demolished them. I had them again in the very next game and they demolished me. Everyone can have bad games.
I'm not even going to waste time on you if you think 4% movement speed is trivial lol...
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@DocOctober said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
It's barely the difference of Bloodlust 1. You can ask any Killer, Bloodlust 1 is barely noticeable.
And just because that Pig had troubles in that game, doesn't mean that that is the case in all games.
2 weeks ago, I played against an SWF group on high ranks and demolished them. I had them again in the very next game and they demolished me. Everyone can have bad games.
I'm not even going to waste time on you if you think 4% movement speed is trivial lol...
Yeah right, keep trying to make an elephant out of a mosquito. I know better, I created the movement speed article on the Wiki, I know what is a significant boost and what isn't.
Woahhhh wiki lol.
So you would be fine with the movement speed boost being removed atleast then
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@M2Fream said:
Might_Oakk said:@DocOctober said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.
That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
It's barely the difference of Bloodlust 1. You can ask any Killer, Bloodlust 1 is barely noticeable. And just because that Pig had troubles in that game, doesn't mean that that is the case in all games.
2 weeks ago, I played against an SWF group on high ranks and demolished them. I had them again in the very next game and they demolished me. Everyone can have bad games.
I'm not even going to waste time on you if you think 4% movement speed is trivial lol...
Hey, DocOctober is a respected community member. Hes right in saying that 4% is not that good. Bloodlust 1 is not noticable.
If you think 4% is trivial you don't play at a high level...
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YOU USED AN INSTA HEAL, AND NOBODY BOTHERED CLEARING TOTEMS
But sure, claim NOED is the issue here.Also if you wanted NOED gone from the game, they would have to nerf adrenaline saves AND get rid of borrowed f*cking time
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@Sn0wJob said:
YOU USED AN INSTA HEAL, AND NOBODY BOTHERED CLEARING TOTEMS
But sure, claim NOED is the issue here.Also if you wanted NOED gone from the game, they would have to nerf adrenaline saves AND get rid of borrowed f*cking time
Insta heal? What?
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@Might_Oakk said:
First off I'm a pretty bad survivor. I play alot of killer so I know the maps which makes me ok at survivor.This guy should not be in the red ranks. Gets boosted by 1 perk.
People say it helps with gen rush but when you're this bad at chasing you're obviously going to have 0 map pressure. These boosted NOED killers would probably have more fun playing at a rank matching their skill.
I don't know how to fix it. Remove movement speed buff? But all the boosted ######### needs to go already and have ranking represent some level of skill.
You can prevent NOED from even activating by spending some time breaking dull totems.
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@Might_Oakk said:
@M2Fream said:
Might_Oakk said:@DocOctober said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.
That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
It's barely the difference of Bloodlust 1. You can ask any Killer, Bloodlust 1 is barely noticeable. And just because that Pig had troubles in that game, doesn't mean that that is the case in all games.
2 weeks ago, I played against an SWF group on high ranks and demolished them. I had them again in the very next game and they demolished me. Everyone can have bad games.
I'm not even going to waste time on you if you think 4% movement speed is trivial lol...
Hey, DocOctober is a respected community member. Hes right in saying that 4% is not that good. Bloodlust 1 is not noticable.
If you think 4% is trivial you don't play at a high level...
Whatever man, you're just salty that that Pig got you. It's not NOED's fault, she would eventually have caught up.
I'm not wasting my time arguing with you anymore. Bye.
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Ah sorry, responded back when an earlier comment claimed you used one then I watched the video myself and you didn't. Then they fixed their comment.
Still fact remains that there is only two ways to punish gen rushing in this game and that is RUIN and NOED, devs have already said they're not changing the 90sec channel timer for generators and they haven't fixed a lot of palette/window loops so a lot of killers can just have 20-30 seconds wasted ez.
Why not go around cleansing totems if you hate NOED so much, make it your personal mission when you play survivor.
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@Sn0wJob said:
Ah sorry, responded back when an earlier comment claimed you used one then I watched the video myself and you didn't. Then they fixed their comment.Still fact remains that there is only two ways to punish gen rushing in this game and that is RUIN and NOED, devs have already said they're not changing the 90sec channel timer for generators and they haven't fixed a lot of palette/window loops so a lot of killers can just have 20-30 seconds wasted ez.
Why not go around cleansing totems if you hate NOED so much, make it your personal mission when you play survivor.
Stop shaming people for their perk choices, it's never a smart move.+1.
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@Sn0wJob said:
Ah sorry, responded back when an earlier comment claimed you used one then I watched the video myself and you didn't. Then they fixed their comment.Still fact remains that there is only two ways to punish gen rushing in this game and that is RUIN and NOED, devs have already said they're not changing the 90sec channel timer for generators and they haven't fixed a lot of palette/window loops so a lot of killers can just have 20-30 seconds wasted ez.
Why not go around cleansing totems if you hate NOED so much, make it your personal mission when you play survivor.
Stop shaming people for their perk choices, it's never a smart move.I don't run NOED and do fine. It's clear it's a horrible killer who is boosted from 1 perk.
Also "shaming" people dafuk lol. You tried make fun on me for using an insta heal. Which I didn't.
What happened to this forum is it because school is out lol?
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@Might_Oakk "What happened to this forum is it because school is out lol?"
My thoughts exactly. Guess killers can't complain about DS, SB, SC or BT. That's perk shaming.5 -
Might_Oakk said:
@M2Fream said:
Might_Oakk said:@DocOctober said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@DocOctober said:
The speed increase of NOED is minor.
That Killer wasn't carried by a Perk, she would have gotten you with or without NOED.
Wut? It's 4%...
Difference between Hag / Huntress and everyone else is 5%.
It's literally a HUGE balancing tool at that amount.
The point is that the killer was so bad and shouldn't be at red ranks. In 1000+ hrs of killer I never fathomed a survivor using 6 vaults and about 30sec on that tile lol.
It's barely the difference of Bloodlust 1. You can ask any Killer, Bloodlust 1 is barely noticeable. And just because that Pig had troubles in that game, doesn't mean that that is the case in all games.
2 weeks ago, I played against an SWF group on high ranks and demolished them. I had them again in the very next game and they demolished me. Everyone can have bad games.
I'm not even going to waste time on you if you think 4% movement speed is trivial lol...
Hey, DocOctober is a respected community member. Hes right in saying that 4% is not that good. Bloodlust 1 is not noticable.
If you think 4% is trivial you don't play at a high level...
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People comparing NOED and Adrenaline fail to account for the fact that one perk requires you to succeed for it to proc, while the other requires you to fail.
My Adrenaline won't proc unless all the gens get done, I get rewarded for succeeding in my objective. NOED procs when you failed as killer to stop the gens from being done. You are rewarding for nothing. If NOED required something on the killers end, something they had to do before the gates were powered for it to proc, then it would be a fair perk. As it stands, it's a crutch and OP is completely right. There are too many boosted killers that only got to high ranks because NOED saved them at the end of the game. Killers that can't chase, can't keep map pressure, can't ever find you, these are the ones running NOED to make up for their lack of skill. You can tell because they will barely get a single hook all game, then suddenly kill 2 when the gates power because they hit the guy they were chasing all game with NOED to finally catch them, and usually manage to catch 1 more either going for the save or at a gate.
I had a game as Freddy last night. I was doing a Hide'n'Seek build (jumpscares with M&A and paint brush), with Devour Hope. It was on Game (I picked it), but they still found my totem early (I had 1 token I think and then it was gone). They also had 3 toolboxes. I struggled SO HARD that game. All 4 were alive when the exit gates powered, and I had no NOED. At this point I was pretty sure I would lose, but I managed to pull out a 2k simply because the guy I caught when the gates were powered was in good spot for me to defend. It wasn't easy, but I pipped. If I had NOED I'm positive I woulda got all 4, but I wouldn't have deserved it.
Killers need to stop defending this perk. The only killers that claim to "need" NOED are the bad ones.
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@thesuicidefox said:
People comparing NOED and Adrenaline fail to account for the fact that one perk requires you to succeed for it to proc, while the other requires you to fail.My Adrenaline won't proc unless all the gens get done, I get rewarded for succeeding in my objective. NOED procs when you failed as killer to stop the gens from being done. You are rewarding for nothing. If NOED required something on the killers end, something they had to do before the gates were powered for it to proc, then it would be a fair perk. As it stands, it's a crutch and OP is completely right. There are too many boosted killers that only got to high ranks because NOED saved them at the end of the game. Killers that can't chase, can't keep map pressure, can't ever find you, these are the ones running NOED to make up for their lack of skill. You can tell because they will barely get a single hook all game, then suddenly kill 2 when the gates power because they hit the guy they were chasing all game with NOED to finally catch them, and usually manage to catch 1 more either going for the save or at a gate.
I had a game as Freddy last night. I was doing a Hide'n'Seek build (jumpscares with M&A and paint brush), with Devour Hope. It was on Game (I picked it), but they still found my totem early (I had 1 token I think and then it was gone). They also had 3 toolboxes. I struggled SO HARD that game. All 4 were alive when the exit gates powered, and I had no NOED. At this point I was pretty sure I would lose, but I managed to pull out a 2k simply because the guy I caught when the gates were powered was in good spot for me to defend. It wasn't easy, but I pipped. If I had NOED I'm positive I woulda got all 4, but I wouldn't have deserved it.
Killers need to stop defending this perk. The only killers that claim to "need" NOED are the bad ones.
NOED is your punishment for not cleansing totems, this sounds like a failure to me. Go do some secondary objectives if you hate noed so much
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@Sn0wJob said:
@thesuicidefox said:
People comparing NOED and Adrenaline fail to account for the fact that one perk requires you to succeed for it to proc, while the other requires you to fail.My Adrenaline won't proc unless all the gens get done, I get rewarded for succeeding in my objective. NOED procs when you failed as killer to stop the gens from being done. You are rewarding for nothing. If NOED required something on the killers end, something they had to do before the gates were powered for it to proc, then it would be a fair perk. As it stands, it's a crutch and OP is completely right. There are too many boosted killers that only got to high ranks because NOED saved them at the end of the game. Killers that can't chase, can't keep map pressure, can't ever find you, these are the ones running NOED to make up for their lack of skill. You can tell because they will barely get a single hook all game, then suddenly kill 2 when the gates power because they hit the guy they were chasing all game with NOED to finally catch them, and usually manage to catch 1 more either going for the save or at a gate.
I had a game as Freddy last night. I was doing a Hide'n'Seek build (jumpscares with M&A and paint brush), with Devour Hope. It was on Game (I picked it), but they still found my totem early (I had 1 token I think and then it was gone). They also had 3 toolboxes. I struggled SO HARD that game. All 4 were alive when the exit gates powered, and I had no NOED. At this point I was pretty sure I would lose, but I managed to pull out a 2k simply because the guy I caught when the gates were powered was in good spot for me to defend. It wasn't easy, but I pipped. If I had NOED I'm positive I woulda got all 4, but I wouldn't have deserved it.
Killers need to stop defending this perk. The only killers that claim to "need" NOED are the bad ones.
NOED is your punishment for not cleansing totems, this sounds like a failure to me. Go do some secondary objectives if you hate noed so much
I Agree. You wanna gen rush and not break dull totems? Then deal with the consequences.
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Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip3 -
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
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@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Because ranks dont mean anything. Anyone with sligth experience can reach rank 1 easily by investing enough time. Oh and btw, its way easier to reach high rank as survivor, then bad killers play aganist bad high rank survivors and rank up this way.
The core problem is that the devs implemented pips as a padding ont he shoulder that you did well. Thats just not what competitive game should be, but whatever.
I guess he was a new killer and will never again try to rank up after he has been bullied a few SWF.
You cant create any pressure against good survivors that dont do mistakes while looping, thats literally the core issue of the game (except nurse)
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the perks are fine. you died because you played that part badly.2
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@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
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@Lowbei said:
the perks are fine. you died because you played that part badly.I wasted 30sec + without a pallet wasn't me who played badly
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@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
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Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
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@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killers need boosted abilities to play.
Does it really matter though? It's not like you get a special reward for getting into red ranks anyways so why does it bother you so much?
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@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip
So I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
the perks are fine.
Ya if your bad.
Just like bad survivors need DS and whatnot.
It's easier to rely on boosted abilities then to l2p I guess
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@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killers need boosted abilities to play.
Does it really matter though? It's not like you get a special reward for getting into red ranks anyways so why does it bother you so much?
Why do you need it? Why not play without it and play at your actual skill level
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Might_Oakk said:
@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip
So I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
the perks are fine.
Ya if your bad.
Just like bad survivors need DS and whatnot.
It's easier to rely on boosted abilities then to l2p I guess
idk if youve noticed, but im always right, so its best to go with me.
you should always assume the killer has noed up if its gate time, until you see a hit not down someone, and play accordingly5 -
@Might_Oakk said:
@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip
So I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
the perks are fine.
Ya if your bad.
Just like bad survivors need DS and whatnot.
It's easier to rely on boosted abilities then to l2p I guess
Well they either have SOME skill behind them or they face potatoes which is highly unlikely in red ranks.
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@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip
So I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
the perks are fine.
Ya if your bad.
Just like bad survivors need DS and whatnot.
It's easier to rely on boosted abilities then to l2p I guess
Well they either have SOME skill behind them or they face potatoes which is highly unlikely in red ranks.
Guess you didnt watch the video. Wasting 30sec without a pallet is horrible
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Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip
So I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
the perks are fine.
Ya if your bad.
Just like bad survivors need DS and whatnot.
It's easier to rely on boosted abilities then to l2p I guess
Well they either have SOME skill behind them or they face potatoes which is highly unlikely in red ranks.
Guess you didnt watch the video. Wasting 30sec without a pallet is horrible
you did, however, die, so its best not to trash talk the killer.5 -
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killers need boosted abilities to play.
Does it really matter though? It's not like you get a special reward for getting into red ranks anyways so why does it bother you so much?
Why do you need it? Why not play without it and play at your actual skill level
Well i use it for late game builds on my nurse and at red ranks it sometimes is just mandatory. I usually get 3-4k without NOED. Sometimes i don't feel like running ruin and just use NOED in its place.
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@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip
So I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
the perks are fine.
Ya if your bad.
Just like bad survivors need DS and whatnot.
It's easier to rely on boosted abilities then to l2p I guess
Well they either have SOME skill behind them or they face potatoes which is highly unlikely in red ranks.
Guess you didnt watch the video. Wasting 30sec without a pallet is horrible
thats common in some window spots. i can lead the killer in a near endless loop on ironworks. that doesnt make him bad, nor me skilled, its just the map.
you did, however, die, so its best not to trash talk the killer.
Not common where I did it or maybe you're just a noob, dunno don't care
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@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killers need boosted abilities to play.
Does it really matter though? It's not like you get a special reward for getting into red ranks anyways so why does it bother you so much?
Why do you need it? Why not play without it and play at your actual skill level
Well i use it for late game builds on my nurse and at red ranks. I usually get 3-4k without NOED. Sometimes i don't feel like running run and just use NOED in its place.
Noed nurse lol. K have a nice day
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@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killers need boosted abilities to play.
Does it really matter though? It's not like you get a special reward for getting into red ranks anyways so why does it bother you so much?
Why do you need it? Why not play without it and play at your actual skill level
Well i use it for late game builds on my nurse and at red ranks. I usually get 3-4k without NOED. Sometimes i don't feel like running run and just use NOED in its place.
Noed nurse lol. K have a nice day
Do you even play nurse???
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@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clipSo I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killers need boosted abilities to play.
Does it really matter though? It's not like you get a special reward for getting into red ranks anyways so why does it bother you so much?
Why do you need it? Why not play without it and play at your actual skill level
Well i use it for late game builds on my nurse and at red ranks. I usually get 3-4k without NOED. Sometimes i don't feel like running run and just use NOED in its place.
Noed nurse lol. K have a nice day
I can tell you I've been up against tons of NOED nurses at red ranks and they are terrifying.
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Might_Oakk said:
@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Lowbei said:
Might_Oakk said:
@Sally55 said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Master said:
Well NOED is a counter of genrush.
Of course you can genrush and ignore totems, but then you will have to risk being instadowned. Btw you were injured already, so it didnt matter in your clip
So I guess you missed the entire point of the thread.
Why is a killer that terrible in the red ranks? Wouldn't he be better off between r10 and r15 where he can play survivors at his skill level?
I'm a killer main and he wasted the whole match following me. Trash killers rely on NOED, get ranked to high, and then complain the game is to hard.
Pressure is the counter to gen rush but if you're that bad you can't create any pressure so need to rely on a boosted crutch perk.
Really? I'm rank 1 and usually NOED is hit and miss depending on whether or not survivors are stupid enough not to cleanse totems. NOED is really good with blood warden tbh.
Some killer players need boosted abilities to play.
the perks are fine.
Ya if your bad.
Just like bad survivors need DS and whatnot.
It's easier to rely on boosted abilities then to l2p I guess
Well they either have SOME skill behind them or they face potatoes which is highly unlikely in red ranks.
Guess you didnt watch the video. Wasting 30sec without a pallet is horrible
thats common in some window spots. i can lead the killer in a near endless loop on ironworks. that doesnt make him bad, nor me skilled, its just the map.
you did, however, die, so its best not to trash talk the killer.
Not common where I did it or maybe you're just a noob, dunno don't care
you died and are whining about it on the forum. git gud and you wont be dying so much.3 -
@Sn0wJob said:
NOED is your punishment for not cleansing totems, this sounds like a failure to me. Go do some secondary objectives if you hate noed so muchIt's not an option if you play solo. You have no way to confirm if other totems were got and you have less control over the pace of gens. Furthermore, most maps have that 1 totem that is actually very well hidden. Why is it I have to destroy EVERY totem to stop NOED, but only 1 to stop Ruin?
Again if you use this perk as killer you are just a bad killer. You can make any argument you want, no good killer uses NOED because they can win without it. Even popular killer mains on Twitch/YT have said this.
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thesuicidefox said:
@Sn0wJob said:
NOED is your punishment for not cleansing totems, this sounds like a failure to me. Go do some secondary objectives if you hate noed so muchIt's not an option if you play solo. You have no way to confirm if other totems were got and you have less control over the pace of gens. Furthermore, most maps have that 1 totem that is actually very well hidden. Why is it I have to destroy EVERY totem to stop NOED, but only 1 to stop Ruin?
Again if you use this perk as killer you are just a bad killer. You can make any argument you want, no good killer uses NOED because they can win without it. Even popular killer mains on Twitch/YT have said this.
killers can use whatever perks they want. you need to always assume noed is up until shown otherwise.
survivor mains love to whine that the perk that killed them is op.
take a step back and realize that is what you are doing, then stop.
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