So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug?

Neska

why does it take so long to get a hotfix patch for that?

(Yes I edited it since I can't just delete it. I have no desire to further discuss this)

Sally55

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month. Chill out

Neska

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Sally55

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Maybe it's best if you take a bit of a break till then to avoid further agitation? Seriously it will do you good when you come back when it's fixed.

GhostEuant

Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

Neska

@GhostEuant said:
Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

GhostEuant

Neska said:

@GhostEuant said:
Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

Oh that’s crazy. Well I won’t use it then. 

nooxet

Didn't they hotfix this on PC already? I thought they said it on stream it will be done ASAP.

Neska

@nooxet said:
Didn't they hotfix this on PC already? I thought they said it on stream it will be done ASAP.

no, they didn't.. sadly..

Bravo0413

I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

Delfador

@Bravo0413 said:
I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

Though it wasnt that bad to not hear survivors' breathing. This tinkerer bug completely changes the game and should have been fixed in a couple of days.

Esheon

GhostEuant said:

Neska said:

@GhostEuant said:
Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

Oh that’s crazy. Well I won’t use it then. 

It's only Tinkerer 2 that's bugged. If you upgrade it to tier 3 it's fine.

Bravo0413

Delfador said:

@Bravo0413 said:
I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

Though it wasnt that bad to not hear survivors' breathing. This tinkerer bug completely changes the game and should have been fixed in a couple of days.

Stop... I've seen survivors liking the bug actually because it makes for more scares its not that bad except maybe for baby survivors and it doesn't even make that big of difference .. without the ability of hearing survivors that's actually game breaking for the killer side.... Myers came in without a TR almost 2yrs ago now dont try to tell me survivors depend on the heart beat that much... the howling grounds TR is a different story 

JackieEstacadoWhen

@Bravo0413 said:

Stop... I've seen survivors liking the bug actually because it makes for more scares its not that bad except maybe for baby survivors and it doesn't even make that big of difference .. without the ability of hearing survivors that's actually game breaking for the killer side.... Myers came in without a TR almost 2yrs ago now dont try to tell me survivors depend on the heart beat that much... the howling grounds TR is a different story 

Not only that but it makes good practise for improving awareness by spotting a killer from all distances without relying on the TR to make them more aware. The bug needs to be fixed there's no denying that but at the same time we should use it to train observation skills while we still can.

Tsulan

You mean like the DH glitch, where survivors abused it for months to get to unreachable spots?

HertZ_Bad

Bravo0413 said:

I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

Funny because this was also labeled "Low priority" in one of the dev streams. The TR was fixed asap while killers had no survivor sound cues for weeks. 

Bravo0413

HertZ_Bad said:

Bravo0413 said:

I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

Funny because this was also labeled "Low priority" in one of the dev streams. The TR was fixed asap while killers had no survivor sound cues for weeks. 

Yeah it was like months after that they fixed sound for killers and people say the sound issue wasnt that bad.. it was you would be right next to a survivor who was injured and wouldnt hear them.. footsteps when on lerys or the game are a huge difference when hunting them.. 

TheBean

I had one killer last night who had it... It is a hard core game mode, you can still win, just need to keep your eyes peeled.

When the Devs said it was fixed, they fixed it internally so it will be rolled out on the next update, whenever that is. It is fixed, just not fixed in the live version yet.

KillingInstinct

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Isn't it more fun to be a bit scared in a HORROR survival game?

Neska

@KillingInstinct said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Isn't it more fun to be a bit scared in a HORROR survival game?

If I wanna play a horror game, I search for a single player REAL horror game. I played this game for 2k hours now so it won't scare me EVER like it did 2 years ago... sometimes you have a little jumpscare if you jump into the killers arms but that's about it for me personally

Neska

@Bravo0413 said:
I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

That was nothing we as survivors could've changed. That was fully on the game and there was nothing survivors could've done to fix that, so you can't even compare that to this bug.

Neska

@Esheon said:
GhostEuant said:

Neska said:

@GhostEuant said:

Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

Oh that’s crazy. Well I won’t use it then. 

It's only Tinkerer 2 that's bugged. If you upgrade it to tier 3 it's fine.

nobody that abuses this perk intentionally upgrades to Tinkerer 3 though.

Neska

And for all the other people: I never said it's unplayable, but the TR is in this game for a reason & you can change it for a reason and to not have it is just as bad as some bugs survivors have abused in the past. It's not fun and I play games for fun and nothing else. I just said that I hate it that people abuse this bug INTENTIONALLY. Why take insidous for "camping" when you have a 2 in 1 perk for that atm? people who don't know about this bug wouldn't do that because they wouldn't know they don't have a TR, but you can clearly see if someone does it on purpose because he knows.. And I don't know why, but since the 2.0 update survivors play like dead potatoes, so no it's not fun to have a "scare" when 50% crawl and hide all game because of it and the other 50% don't even know what's going on and die left and right.

For example I remember the bug were survivors got 8k points for stunning a killer once. That got fixed in a hotfix update THE SAME DAY! While bugs like these (which, like some people say, are apparently fixed internally) don't get hotfixes and nobody cares about them. That's all I wanted to say and that's purely my opinion and I have no problem with the fact that you have a different opinion on things like this..

Bravo0413

Neska said:

@Bravo0413 said:
I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

That was nothing we as survivors could've changed. That was fully on the game and there was nothing survivors could've done to fix that, so you can't even compare that to this bug.

A bug that can be abused is a bug that can be abused.... whether it's a perk bug or a mechanic... this OP was stating that the devs take their sweet time fixing bugs that involve killers having "an advantage" in match and that is simply not true at all... the tinkerer bug is no where near as serious as what it's being made out to be.... survivors still abused the sound bug and scratch marks and the devs still took 3months or more to fix them.. because you're trying to say survivors had no say doesnt take away that fact... the TR bug during the howling grounds?.... fixed overnight pretty much.. 

Bravo0413

From what I heard the entity barricade for windows is broken atm anyways... another thing that survivors could abuse but "dont have a say in" 

Grey87

@Esheon said:
GhostEuant said:

Neska said:

@GhostEuant said:

Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

Oh that’s crazy. Well I won’t use it then. 

It's only Tinkerer 2 that's bugged. If you upgrade it to tier 3 it's fine.

Why would those who abuse it upgrade it?

BBQnDemogorgon

@Grey87 said:

@Esheon said:
GhostEuant said:

Neska said:

@GhostEuant said:

Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

Oh that’s crazy. Well I won’t use it then. 

It's only Tinkerer 2 that's bugged. If you upgrade it to tier 3 it's fine.

Why would those who abuse it upgrade it?

I doubt a large number of people using this bug are doing so intentionally.

It's not like you can tell it's bugged if you're the killer. Unless the killers are just straight up admitting it in the post game chat it's best to assume they're unaware.

Grey87

@Bbbrian2013 said:

@Grey87 said:

@Esheon said:
GhostEuant said:

Neska said:

@GhostEuant said:

Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

Oh that’s crazy. Well I won’t use it then. 

It's only Tinkerer 2 that's bugged. If you upgrade it to tier 3 it's fine.

Why would those who abuse it upgrade it?

I doubt a large number of people using this bug are doing so intentionally.

I don't agree with you.
I'm sure a lot know and still use it.

Master

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

Runiver

There can be hotfixes before the next chapter, actually. Hard to tell if they're gonna happen tho.

Neska

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

Master

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

Neska

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

If you pick it because it's bugged and you're using the advatage of not having a TR then yes, it's a bad thing.

You can't compare this with swf/ 4x DS because

1. I don't use DS - I have no interest in getting dribbled to every hook or in other words; have my perk denied.
2. I only play solo or as a 2 man swf at max. and we both never used ds or items for that matter.
3. as much swf players there are, there are just as much solo players out there & just because you get the swf groups all the time as a killer (I know that feeling believe me, it's really frustarting when they bully you around the map and the moment you play survivor you have the potatoes in your team because the good players only play swf apparently) doesn't mean there aren't any solo players that rely on the TR during the match (especially while saving someone off the hook)

Master

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

If you pick it because it's bugged and you're using the advatage of not having a TR then yes, it's a bad thing.

You can't compare this with swf/ 4x DS because

1. I don't use DS - I have no interest in getting dribbled to every hook or in other words; have my perk denied.
2. I only play solo or as a 2 man swf at max. and we both never used ds or items for that matter.
3. as much swf players there are, there are just as much solo players out there & just because you get the swf groups all the time as a killer (I know that feeling believe me, it's really frustarting when they bully you around the map and the moment you play survivor you have the potatoes in your team because the good players only play swf apparently) doesn't mean there aren't any solo players that rely on the TR during the match (especially while saving someone off the hook)

I dont care what you say, whether you play solo or whatever. fact is that 4x DS in a SWF is utterly broken and the devs realized it and promised us to nerf it.

Tinkerer 2 has way less impact on the game, still you cry for an immediate fix.

At the moment both tinkerer 2 and DS are broken perks that are waiting for a fix, fact is that I NEVER occured a tinkerer 2 killer, but DS is used EVERY game (I play 50/50 killer/surv atm)

I could also say that I am a bad killer so its fine if I use tinkerer 2 (survivor logic)

Neska

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

If you pick it because it's bugged and you're using the advatage of not having a TR then yes, it's a bad thing.

You can't compare this with swf/ 4x DS because

1. I don't use DS - I have no interest in getting dribbled to every hook or in other words; have my perk denied.
2. I only play solo or as a 2 man swf at max. and we both never used ds or items for that matter.
3. as much swf players there are, there are just as much solo players out there & just because you get the swf groups all the time as a killer (I know that feeling believe me, it's really frustarting when they bully you around the map and the moment you play survivor you have the potatoes in your team because the good players only play swf apparently) doesn't mean there aren't any solo players that rely on the TR during the match (especially while saving someone off the hook)

I dont care what you say, whether you play solo or whatever. fact is that 4x DS in a SWF is utterly broken and the devs realized it and promised us to nerf it.

Tinkerer 2 has way less impact on the game, still you cry for an immediate fix.

At the moment both tinkerer 2 and DS are broken perks that are waiting for a fix, fact is that I NEVER occured a tinkerer 2 killer, but DS is used EVERY game (I play 50/50 killer/surv atm)

I could also say that I am a bad killer so its fine if I use tinkerer 2 (survivor logic)

you're still comparing a perk that is working as it should, with a perk that does NOT work as it should.
and now that you say it; I NEVER occured a 4x swf group, even at rank 1.

If you have nothing else to say, other than letting out your frustration of ds, I wish you much fun in your games, and since you apparently get all the time 4x ds swf groups, I cross my fingers that you don't get them as often. Have a nice day.

Master

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

If you pick it because it's bugged and you're using the advatage of not having a TR then yes, it's a bad thing.

You can't compare this with swf/ 4x DS because

1. I don't use DS - I have no interest in getting dribbled to every hook or in other words; have my perk denied.
2. I only play solo or as a 2 man swf at max. and we both never used ds or items for that matter.
3. as much swf players there are, there are just as much solo players out there & just because you get the swf groups all the time as a killer (I know that feeling believe me, it's really frustarting when they bully you around the map and the moment you play survivor you have the potatoes in your team because the good players only play swf apparently) doesn't mean there aren't any solo players that rely on the TR during the match (especially while saving someone off the hook)

I dont care what you say, whether you play solo or whatever. fact is that 4x DS in a SWF is utterly broken and the devs realized it and promised us to nerf it.

Tinkerer 2 has way less impact on the game, still you cry for an immediate fix.

At the moment both tinkerer 2 and DS are broken perks that are waiting for a fix, fact is that I NEVER occured a tinkerer 2 killer, but DS is used EVERY game (I play 50/50 killer/surv atm)

I could also say that I am a bad killer so its fine if I use tinkerer 2 (survivor logic)

you're still comparing a perk that is working as it should, with a perk that does NOT work as it should.
and now that you say it; I NEVER occured a 4x swf group, even at rank 1.

If you have nothing else to say, other than letting out your frustration of ds, I wish you much fun in your games, and since you apparently get all the time 4x ds swf groups, I cross my fingers that you don't get them as often. Have a nice day.

Thats exactly my point. DS is not how it should be. Devs admitted that it is broken and it will receive a nerf.
You never occured a 4x SWF? Well guess you dont play killer lol, ofc you dont understand the frustration about DS then

Neska

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Master said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

If you pick it because it's bugged and you're using the advatage of not having a TR then yes, it's a bad thing.

You can't compare this with swf/ 4x DS because

1. I don't use DS - I have no interest in getting dribbled to every hook or in other words; have my perk denied.
2. I only play solo or as a 2 man swf at max. and we both never used ds or items for that matter.
3. as much swf players there are, there are just as much solo players out there & just because you get the swf groups all the time as a killer (I know that feeling believe me, it's really frustarting when they bully you around the map and the moment you play survivor you have the potatoes in your team because the good players only play swf apparently) doesn't mean there aren't any solo players that rely on the TR during the match (especially while saving someone off the hook)

I dont care what you say, whether you play solo or whatever. fact is that 4x DS in a SWF is utterly broken and the devs realized it and promised us to nerf it.

Tinkerer 2 has way less impact on the game, still you cry for an immediate fix.

At the moment both tinkerer 2 and DS are broken perks that are waiting for a fix, fact is that I NEVER occured a tinkerer 2 killer, but DS is used EVERY game (I play 50/50 killer/surv atm)

I could also say that I am a bad killer so its fine if I use tinkerer 2 (survivor logic)

you're still comparing a perk that is working as it should, with a perk that does NOT work as it should.
and now that you say it; I NEVER occured a 4x swf group, even at rank 1.

If you have nothing else to say, other than letting out your frustration of ds, I wish you much fun in your games, and since you apparently get all the time 4x ds swf groups, I cross my fingers that you don't get them as often. Have a nice day.

Thats exactly my point. DS is not how it should be. Devs admitted that it is broken and it will receive a nerf.
You never occured a 4x SWF? Well guess you dont play killer lol, ofc you dont understand the frustration about DS then

God, really? I said I never had a 4 man swf group where every single member used ds, which is what you stated happens all the time to you. I had games with 1-2 ds, but that's about it & yes, if I can I dribble them to the hook just like every other killer would. For the "broken" part; there is a clear difference between broken as in; overpowered and in broken as; not working as intended.

KillingInstinct

@Neska said:

@KillingInstinct said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Isn't it more fun to be a bit scared in a HORROR survival game?

If I wanna play a horror game, I search for a single player REAL horror game. I played this game for 2k hours now so it won't scare me EVER like it did 2 years ago... sometimes you have a little jumpscare if you jump into the killers arms but that's about it for me personally

If u wanna play a horror game u play something else? Well this game is branded as a Horror game, so a bug making it scary and making survivors look over their shoulders is pretty cool imo

Neska

@KillingInstinct said:

@Neska said:

@KillingInstinct said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Isn't it more fun to be a bit scared in a HORROR survival game?

If I wanna play a horror game, I search for a single player REAL horror game. I played this game for 2k hours now so it won't scare me EVER like it did 2 years ago... sometimes you have a little jumpscare if you jump into the killers arms but that's about it for me personally

If u wanna play a horror game u play something else? Well this game is branded as a Horror game, so a bug making it scary and making survivors look over their shoulders is pretty cool imo

They can brand the game as whatever they want, if I'm not scared by it (and oviously nobody is scared of a game after they played it 2 years) then it's not a horror game for me. ofc it was scary when I first picked it up, but as I said after 2 years (2k hours) it's just not & the TR will not change that for me personally. So yes, if I want a horror game I would take a single player game, but since I'm an easy scared person I won't do that.

brokedownpalace

Bravo0413 said:

I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

Some of you people are delusional with the victim complex. Every single thing needs to be turned into a survivor vs killer battle. Do you not have lives?

KillingInstinct

@Neska said:

@KillingInstinct said:

@Neska said:

@KillingInstinct said:

@Neska said:

@Sally55 said:

@Neska said:
I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

Isn't it more fun to be a bit scared in a HORROR survival game?

If I wanna play a horror game, I search for a single player REAL horror game. I played this game for 2k hours now so it won't scare me EVER like it did 2 years ago... sometimes you have a little jumpscare if you jump into the killers arms but that's about it for me personally

If u wanna play a horror game u play something else? Well this game is branded as a Horror game, so a bug making it scary and making survivors look over their shoulders is pretty cool imo

They can brand the game as whatever they want, if I'm not scared by it (and oviously nobody is scared of a game after they played it 2 years) then it's not a horror game for me. ofc it was scary when I first picked it up, but as I said after 2 years (2k hours) it's just not & the TR will not change that for me personally. So yes, if I want a horror game I would take a single player game, but since I'm an easy scared person I won't do that.

survs should at least be ''afraid'' to be near the killer. That's what asymmetrical means in this game. Too bad if they try to make it like it should be, survs just bombard the game with bad reviews like last time

Esheon

Grey87 said:

@Bbbrian2013 said:

@Grey87 said:

@Esheon said:
GhostEuant said:

Neska said:

@GhostEuant said:

Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

Oh that’s crazy. Well I won’t use it then. 

It's only Tinkerer 2 that's bugged. If you upgrade it to tier 3 it's fine.

Why would those who abuse it upgrade it?

I doubt a large number of people using this bug are doing so intentionally.

I don't agree with you.
I'm sure a lot know and still use it.

I'm sure there are some people who are using it intentionally. Im also equally sure that most people are unaware of the bug.

I had a survivor game last night where the killer was using it and legit had no idea. The other three survivors were accusing him of hacking, and the killer apologized after I told them about the bug. I believe he didn't know about it. For one thing he only had 3 perks, none were tier 3 and none were teachables from another killer (Enduring 1, Tinkerer 2, Unrelenting 1). Based on that and on his gameplay, he was definitely a new killer.

Most players don't read the forums (Steam or official). A lot of them probably dont even read the patch notes.

That particular game was absolutely terrifying, and i loved it. You just had to keep your eyes peeled and your camera on a swivel, like a faster version of Myers EW1.