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What do you guys consider Camping or Tunneling?
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Camping to me is when the killer is stays less than 10 feet from you for longer than 2 minutes, and refuses to leave to chase your teammate's.
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When the Ghostface that just hooked me sits behind a wall and watches me from stealth.
When the Oni I just came from targets only one person at a time until dead, and your other team members don't have Borrowed Time, or any form of body blocking skills.
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Camping is obvious, when the killer has zero intention of leaving the hook area no matter what. Tunneling, or at least the most common form of tunneling, are the killers who proxy camp trying to bait unhooks to then go after the unhooked guy. This is very common and why so many survivors feel forced to bring BT and DS, the same way many killers feel forced to bring ruin.
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Camping is the killer sitting at or very close to the hook for no reason, trading their global presence for local presence around the hook where it is unwarranted. If there's someone around, it ain't camping.
Tunneling is a killer targetting the same person on and off-hook in an attempt to have them sacrificed and out of the game asap. It's a way of bullying the weak link to make the game a 3v1 as quickly as possible.
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My definition of camping is staying close enough to the hook that any attempted save would be either prevented completely or heavily punished, with the express intention of doing so - which means that chasing someone near the hook doesn't count as camping as far as I'm concerned. (This is also not to say that a killer is always camping if they manage to prevent an unhook or down someone immediately afterwards, because there are many ways of achieving something like that without staying within close proximity of the hook.)
I would define tunneling generally as focusing a particular player from the first time you find them until their death, including choosing to follow them rather than the rescuer every time they get unhooked. Hard tunneling is focusing a single player to the point where the killer ignores everyone else, even if other survivors go out of their way to bodyblock or attract the killer's attention.
Just as a disclaimer, even though I'm not personally a fan of doing or experiencing either of the above, I do consider them both to be perfectly legitimate (if somewhat "unfun") tactics.
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Same as Fibijean, except without the legitimacy. To me, it's a set of tactics that do not require skill and have helped force the current perk meta for survivors that heaps of killers seem to be complaining about.
Borrowed Time and Decisive Strike both became almost mandatory perks to deal with these issues.
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Who cares? Play how you want. You're not there to babysit the survivors and make sure they have fun
Edit: but to answer your question, camping is when the killer doesn't leave the vicinity of a hooked survivor to allow a save. If survivors are smart, they'll punish this by dual stacking on gens. You can do 2 gens in 1 first phase of hook most times.
Tunneling is when the killer immediately goes after the unhooked person, and hooks them again without slugging or even caring that the other survivors exist.
Do them if you want. They're both punishable if the survivors aren't absolute dogcrap. They're gonna get salty but oh well
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When I run into the same survivor somehow after they were unhooked I normally down them and leave them there. Some called me a toxic slugger for it...I mean.. I didnt want to kill them right away because I felt bad...but guess I'm the bad guy no matter what
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Camping is being in a distance where you get back to the hook before someone can unhook the guy.
Tunneling is ignoring other survivors on sight to go after the unhooked
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I get that theory. I would rather you hook me and let me play another game. Being slugged sux. Or pick me up and take chance I may actually hit my ds which I just started running because I cant loop yet.
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Camping is obvious, you're staying around or in sight of the hook so you get easy downs when someone unhooks.
Tunneling though is a bit more complicated. A lot of people see it as "The killer found me for a second time, I'm being tunneled!" but no, I feel you have to be camped in order to actually tunnel or if you're very good at looping then they stay on you for like 2-5 gens.
An example of not-actually-tunneling my friend used once was in a match vs plague. She was sick (so I got sick by saving), I went to unhook her as someone else got hooked. So the killer doesn't know where anyone else is, of course she's gonna come back to area of the hook my friend was on. Friend had the bright idea to get on a gen in the area and when she was heard coughing and puking, the killer wouldn't have known whether it was me or her until they saw but even when they saw, the point of killer is to kill. They won't look at you and say "Oh, I've already hooked you, sorry. Lemme go find someone else." Now if the plague had originally stayed in the area she'd of known which way I went and then if she went after friend still instead, it would have been tunneling. But the situation my friend was in... not tunneling (even though she claimed it was).
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