General Discussions
General Discussions
A compromise to devs for seeing teammates perks and for killer to know they’re vs’ing SWF.
So the number 1 reason against this is that goes around is people may dodge lobbies if this information is made available and a solution to this would be to allow teammates to see each other perks when the game loads and the killer see’s instead of the perk Icons “SWF” or “Solo” when the game also loads.
Dodging made not possible only DC’ing which would be punishable. Hopefully this could be looked at @Peanits.
Even though this isn’t the best solution for killer (can’t equipt perks/loadouts suited to SWF), say if I bring knockout and know there’s swf opponents and I down one... I can guess for this person to comm their location to SWF teammate(s) and try to work around this more (them getting picked up sooner than usual)... if the SWF know I know they’re SWF they may leave their teammate on ground longer compared to before as a mindgame... overall helps the killer a tonne.
As for solos seeing each other’s perks this can only be helpful.
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Just letting you know that the person you tagged is a random forum member, not the dev who I'm assuming you meant to tag.
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Fixed cheers.
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I really don't think knowing they are an SWF helps all that much yeah you can adjust perks but there are very few perks that can actually do anything to SWF coordination and that's where the problem lies.
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Not knowing they’re SWF gives SWF a huge initiative in the early game... the killer currently has to hand over freebies (play normally) to find out it’s swf (they will work around regular play trying to bait & switch + alsorts of strats) or the killer just has to play unfun from the get go which usually results in solos having a terrible experience if the killer was vs’ing solos where it could have been swf.
If you played normally from the start against a sweaty swf you already lost... swf can still win if you play unfun from the get go if they gen-rush as it is.
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You pretty much hit the nailon the head in that statement I always play like they're swf if you assume the worst you can't be surprised
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But if you get solos knowing they’re solos... you’d probably go for a more chill game... the more chases you let etc... the more chances of pipping and solos usually lead to more relaxing games for killer.
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I agree but you still have no control over whether or not it's a solo and giving killer the ability to see swf will just result in DCs if that's what they have to do. SWF just isn't fun to go against they are toxic as hell and quite frankly they ruin the fun of being "the power role" because killer does not feel like the power role when against SEF
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If people can see they're versing survivor with friends then no one's every going to play against them. EVER. The commend the devs for taking the better, more difficult, healthier route. Instead of fixing this broken feature directly, they're balancing everything else around it which makes it no longer broken. If Killers have the option to not face a SWF team then they won't. Which would hurt the game's population.
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If you DC you’re just gonna get banned... that’s just being immature at that point... sorry but other people who want a better fighting chance through information shouldn’t be rejected this because some people threaten to DC. They can get banned/timed-out. The devs can’t fix the issue if they give into incendiary type tactics.
Hope the devs take a more mature approach rather than shadow-damning honest players.
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If you read the post there’s no dodging available. So that’s not a reason against this change.
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I agree but the killer base is already extremely small if even 1/3 of them DC on swf that drastically increases wait times for survivors and the killers who aren't dcing will always get plenty of matches in timely manner
It's hard to punish the smallest base when that's literally half your game AND they are already disenfranchised with how you have balanced the game in the first place
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So are you saying you’ll DC if you’re given information that you’re going against an SWF once the game loads? Or are you fighting on behalf of a fictitious case for non-existent people since no one’s actually said they’ll do this.
Like, honestly I would imagine more so: SWF players who are toxic would make this stuff up so the game stays easier for them while it can remain that way. Information doesn’t hurt anyone... hence people don’t advocate for censorship.
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Neither simply stating the facts, you already have people saying killers abandon if they even think they are an SWF. If that's the case that means there's enough killers that hate SWF so much they would rather not deal with them at all.
If they hate them that much do you really think that a DC penalty will bother them? I see plenty of posts in here from killers who talk about how much they hate SWF. Thus the reason I say many are disenfranchised with the balance of the game
Finally survivors already say they have a hard time getting into matches. So logically speaking if you have even a small percentage of killers taking DC penalties that has a compounded impact on matchmaking for survivors.
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I get told the other day that my post should get edited because it prompts using an unavoidable bug... but apparently it’s okay to start DC’ing if something were added to the game that’d benefit you as a player and would allow for further development of the game.
It’s not excusable, you would have been vs’ing swf either way. The DC penalty is there so you won’t try to DC.
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See my post above. Yeah I think you don’t have an argument that people will ignore DC’ing to lose their account. Killer’s have stayed through rougher times and I doubt something that’d benefit them long run would throw them off to all leaving. I don’t think we should be stuck in a stone-age mentality.
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Guess we'll have to agree to disagree, wait times as survivor sucks enough as it is I'll just leave it at that.
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