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For the love of god, keep the DC penalties going.

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  • Tr0g
    Tr0g Member Posts: 241

    Haven't received a single penalty yet soooo.. Seems to be a problem on your side. Fix your drivers.

  • DepressedClownMain
    DepressedClownMain Member Posts: 924
    edited December 2019

    Idk what you are trying to prove here, but people will just kill themselves on the hook, and if you play like the jerk you wrote people will just dc and play other games, so the dc penalties dont really help you in any way

  • deadbyhitbox
    deadbyhitbox Member Posts: 1,117

    Darn, guess people should be punished for the game being broken!

  • EleaticStranger
    EleaticStranger Member Posts: 81

    Ebay comes to mind. You get to see information on sellers, like 93% positive feedback or whatever. Maybe players could have some statistics like that visible to others in a lobby so that you can decide whether or not to risk it with players who have poor stats.

    The analogy works up to a point. I don't think a feedback stat would ideal. Instead, how about an absolute percentage of matches DC'd in the last month? Then you could avoid people in the habit of ruining matches for the rest of us. Plus it might actually discourage people from DCing because they'd have to wear that percentage on their name like a badge of dishonor.

    Limiting the data set to a period of time might not be ideal since that could skew the perception depending on often you play. Maybe a percentage of the last 50 matches you at?

    The key here is to shift responsibility for solving this problem from the devs to the players. A penalty system might help, but why not empower players to avoid abusers in the first place?

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,399

    I'm so SO jealous, dude! I could never dream of survivors DCing for me, because it would be so much easier to 3v1 instead of 4v1. You guys are SO lucky!

  • tylerlogsdon1
    tylerlogsdon1 Member Posts: 158

    There's no excuse to be playing a game below it's minimum requirements, then complaining when it doesn't work

  • The_Second_Coming
    The_Second_Coming Member Posts: 1,110
    edited December 2019

    Don't pay mind to him. It's a joke thread with a joke account. Nobody with a rational mind would punish innocent people just to serve their delicate entitled sensibilities.

  • Elvenmonk
    Elvenmonk Member Posts: 367

    Except for the fact the game is super buggy and the switch version,last I heard, had a glitch which will randomly dc you until you power off the console.


    Infinite loading screen counts for dc. Loading screen drops also count. Which can happen if someone crashes during loading.

    There are a lot of bugs that cause crashing.

  • liquidlight
    liquidlight Member Posts: 344

    I live in an area of town where there is only one internet provider and my internet speed cannot get above a certain speed. It's unfortunately really slow but doesn't seem to affect game play that much aside from giving out every so often which results in me being kicked from a match. It doesn't happen too often though some days are worse than others. Usually weather dependent. If I could switch to a faster service, I would, but it's literally impossible. I don't think it's fair that because my connection gives out sometimes that I should be punished for it. I enjoy the game. I paid for it. I should be able to play it and no one should say I can't or shouldn't because of something completely out of my control.

  • starkiller1286
    starkiller1286 Member Posts: 889

    I think they did but there wasnt eniugh players or something after a while so they forced it to live

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    I read the arguement between OP and @Sairek, and I have to take Sairek's side because having a system that soft bans innocent players is just not acceptable.

    There's a reason why BHVR doesn't like to ban players that abuse unfamiliar bugs such as Wake Up, Basement, and Sprint Burst (these been patched already). This is because you risk banning someone who doesn't know about the bug, and thus, ban someone who's innocent.


    Quote from @Peanits: About the basement bug.

    To simply what he said:

    They don't want to ban innocent players.


    This is why I'm happy that BHVR is taking a safe direction by fixing what needs to be fixed, so no one player receives a punishment that they felt unjustified. 😁🤗

  • KeepDCPenalties
    KeepDCPenalties Member Posts: 47

    I'm not sure where in the screenshot he says anything about a game breaking bug, he literally just says a bug with the challenge. He could mean that it won't give the correct score, it could mean literally anything at all because that is all you posted. Provide context before trying to pull a "gotcha" moment please.

  • Khar
    Khar Member Posts: 640

    Because Dedicated Servers tend to disconnect me at random, I suffer from DC penalties. When it was active, I got up to six hours of penalty, all from something completely out of my control.

  • arslaN
    arslaN Member Posts: 1,936

    Nope, he clearly meant the basement bug here. Someone said they should ban killers if they hook survivors in the basement and this was his response. There were no bugs with challenge itself.

    Here is a video of the bug since you refuse to believe it exists for some reason: https://youtu.be/k1hKXRKxzqQ

  • KeepDCPenalties
    KeepDCPenalties Member Posts: 47

    Did you even read what I said?

    Well, no, you obviously read the first sentence then immediately started typing out a response. I'm not saying that he is right or wrong, but the way he is presenting it without context leads me to believe that he'd rather the context not fully be known.

  • yoi
    yoi Member Posts: 338

    dc penalties are stupid and dont solve the problem if someone dont wanna play they will kill on first hook and you will de pip or safe pip at best becasue of it so no fam.

  • hinoutoumei
    hinoutoumei Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2019

    they really should just remove the ability to disconnect from a match. Granted, you are never going to stop people from dcing who wish to dc..but you can at least not have an easy access button which allows them to do it. Other online games I play take this approach and the only way to disconnect from them is to force quit , shut down your device or disconnect your router.


    the penalties also are not doing anything. Most of the people who dc purposefully are usually doing so because they are trolls. Putting them in a time out chair is not a solution. They literally spend $1000s because they are sick in the head and find their behavior or ruining people's games "fun". They go out of their way to kite the killer to their team, dc as soon as it looks like the killer is accomplishing anything, dc so the other 3 survivors don't get the achievement for everyone escaping from hatch, etc etc. Then they sit there in the lobby waiting for the game to end just so they can call the killer a camper, tell the other players they suck etc, because someone playing level 1 the oni (or whatever) who just wants to complete the quest and has never played that killer before, really needs to hear how they suck from a guy who dcs as soon as you load in, put him on a hook etc.


    PUtting them on time out is not a solution. Even if they did rack up 24 hours in bans, they would just go play another game during this time, come back and repeat the process. Also, it wouldn't take much to figure out what your disconnect algorithm is and once they figured this out they would just abuse said knowledge to bypass the penalty system in the first place.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    edited December 2019

    "Innocent" "very long" "or some bs".


    It's a 5 min ban. If something buggy happens or your net drops, solve the issue first. If the game CONTINUES to crash, you are knowingly playing it with said issue present. Risk it, or wait for them to fix it, but dont chastise a working system that prevents intentional dcs because of a few issues that may happen.

  • hinoutoumei
    hinoutoumei Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2019

    When are you people going to clue in. Nothing about his playstyle in any way suggests he is a jerk. The only jerks i see are the survivors. DCING because the killer is winning the match..right.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    That's understandable, but do you see where I'm coming from?

    Having a system that punishes innocent players is a no-go in my book, so I prefer BHVR to take more time chamfering the edges. Don't get me wrong, I want DC penalties because they are a huge step in the right direction, but I don't want the penalties to affect innocent players! 😁🤗

    Like the community says, we want a finished and polished product rather than a rushed one.

  • tortrader
    tortrader Member Posts: 539

    "Too bad the game doesn't work for most people even with the recommended requirements then"

    You have the perception and reasoning skills of a teenager.

    If the game didn't work for most players then we wouldn't be having matches.

  • tortrader
    tortrader Member Posts: 539

    Enjoy the ban penalties when it comes back into effect, ragequitter.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    Hey that's what I do every time I try to play.


    As survivor, I struggle to get games thanks to lobby bugs (even while I'm solo) and the quality is bad, riddled with game breaking bugs and all manner of unfun/OP crap from both roles...and dedicated servers which have been forced onto us make the experience much worse, too.


    As killer, i find myself being cucked by bugs that stop me from literally ######### pressing M1, as well as randomly reappearing in different places while carrying survivors, giving them time to wiggle off.


    And don't get me started on the bug that happens when a survivor is hooked but they get stuck in between...the only way out of those pieces of ######### is for either that survivor or the killer to DC.


    DC penalties shouldn't be getting tested at all until the game is in a much better state, with regard to both balance for both sides and game breaking bugs. Not one moment sooner.

  • Dr_doom_j2
    Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869

    See, this is all a stupid, very round about way of addressing an issue that's very simple to fix.. Just give the killer full points for a DC, treat it as a full sacrifice with 3 hooks. It helps pip them up to where they should be while de-piping the player who DC's so they are separated and that mean ol' killer who brought a Mori or played spirit plays with mean ol' survivors who run full meta SWF comms and the DCer can play with the other simple creatures who just want "A fUn GaME". Also give the other survivors more additional points for basically having a forfeit game.


    Seriously, these devs take the whole pip system way to seriously to begin with. There's absolutely no reason in a game where rank is essentially an artificial gate between trash and ok players (because let's face it, literally anyone with 100 hours can get to rank 1 unless they're handi-capable) to not just give points towards piping out. This game isn't some indie marvel that just happened upon success anymore, it's a fullfledged property with support and backing from major horror IP holders. They don't need to stick so rigidly to their old terrible ideas of what this game should be. Ranks don't need to be taking so seriously, and who really cares if players are getting more BP? That shouldn't be their excuse for leaving the game in such a state where on player can ruin the game for 5 others.

  • arslaN
    arslaN Member Posts: 1,936

    Oh I definitely will when salty killers can't dc on me. What is with all the accusations on this thread?

    You have the perception and reasoning skills of a teenager.

  • deadbyhitbox
    deadbyhitbox Member Posts: 1,117
    edited December 2019

    Yeah, when I get basement bugged, it's my PC. Should have just upgraded the damn thing a year ago.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506

    Taking things a bit personally?

    You said yourself, they're in THE TESTING PHASE.

    You know this, yet continue to play, get kicked, then go "what the ######### behaviour, this isnt fair!".


    Let them work the kinks out, or deal with what happens in the meantime. You cant have your ######### cake and eat it too.