Survive With Friends Is NEVER Going Anywhere (MASSIVE Survivor Buffs)
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Time for another strike?
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@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo."Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Well it literally cant happen anymore because devs removed it. You can unhook from all angles now. Its impossible to secure a hook unless you are a chainsaw killer
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@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo."Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Well it literally cant happen anymore because devs removed it. You can unhook from all angles now. Its impossible to secure a hook unless you are a chainsaw killer
Why are we acting like "Face camping" was the same as "Hook Blocking".
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@Delfador said:
It is a terrible idea and will never work in favor of a killer.
Getting hooked means a failure and we try to award it by giving a buff to survivors. It should not happen naturally. You can keep your kindred as a perk and use it but innate ability is too much. People don't understand but this change is much more problematic than bloodlust imo.Giving survivors more information to be on par with SWF is obviously not intended to benefit the killer. Why should it? The point is so that solos' experience isn't absolute trash compared to grouping up.
Getting hooked shouldn't spell out instant death just because you decided to queue alone. Being able to coordinate with other solos will alleviate being left for dead on the hook and discourage camping.
The pallet changes, pick up changes (flashlight and save nerf), and low-tier killer changes are what is working to benefit killers as a whole. Soon, we'll have 4 killers buffed, with Pig confirmed on reddit as well. Changes that aren't dedicated to buffing killers aren't "problematic", they serve to fix other areas of the game.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo."Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Well it literally cant happen anymore because devs removed it. You can unhook from all angles now. Its impossible to secure a hook unless you are a chainsaw killer
Why are we acting like "Face camping" was the same as "Hook Blocking".
Because that is what face camping means
If you wanna refer to a killer standing close to a hook nowdays, then it is called camping.
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@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo."Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Well it literally cant happen anymore because devs removed it. You can unhook from all angles now. Its impossible to secure a hook unless you are a chainsaw killer
Why are we acting like "Face camping" was the same as "Hook Blocking".
Because that is what face camping means
If you wanna refer to a killer standing close to a hook nowdays, then it is called camping.
I feel there's a definitive difference between camping and standing one inch from a survivor making it harder to unhook.
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@Raccoon said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
This also nerfs Freddy slightly more, too.Beautiful.
How so? You can't hit the guy that just go unhooked anyway, even if you run paint brush + Z block they can still get off and do something for 3 seconds after. If anything, Freddy is the least affected by the i-frames.
Can you Dream People during I-Frames?
More particularly, during Sprint Burst I-Frames?
Yes, why wouldn't you be able to?
And does SB even have i-frames? I don't think it does I think it just distends your hitbox. I've never had an instance where someone was immune to being slept.
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@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
This also nerfs Freddy slightly more, too.Beautiful.
How so? You can't hit the guy that just go unhooked anyway, even if you run paint brush + Z block they can still get off and do something for 3 seconds after. If anything, Freddy is the least affected by the i-frames.
Can you Dream People during I-Frames?
More particularly, during Sprint Burst I-Frames?
Yes, why wouldn't you be able to?
And does SB even have i-frames? I don't think it does I think it just distends your hitbox. I've never had an instance where someone was immune to being slept.
I know for sure that SB had i-frame once, not sure how it is currently.
I remember smashing a sprinbursting survivor with a chainsaw e.g. and nothign happened.0 -
@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
This also nerfs Freddy slightly more, too.Beautiful.
How so? You can't hit the guy that just go unhooked anyway, even if you run paint brush + Z block they can still get off and do something for 3 seconds after. If anything, Freddy is the least affected by the i-frames.
Can you Dream People during I-Frames?
More particularly, during Sprint Burst I-Frames?
Yes, why wouldn't you be able to?
And does SB even have i-frames? I don't think it does I think it just distends your hitbox. I've never had an instance where someone was immune to being slept.
SB doesn't keep you from being slept nor being hit and it never has, the smarter killers adjust accordingly.
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@powerbats said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
This also nerfs Freddy slightly more, too.Beautiful.
How so? You can't hit the guy that just go unhooked anyway, even if you run paint brush + Z block they can still get off and do something for 3 seconds after. If anything, Freddy is the least affected by the i-frames.
Can you Dream People during I-Frames?
More particularly, during Sprint Burst I-Frames?
Yes, why wouldn't you be able to?
And does SB even have i-frames? I don't think it does I think it just distends your hitbox. I've never had an instance where someone was immune to being slept.
SB doesn't keep you from being slept nor being hit and it never has, the smarter killers adjust accordingly.
How do you explain it that if you chase a sprinbursting survivor as billy and you get into "hit range", then the chainsaw just stops as if you were stuck on sth and the hit isnt applied.
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Clearly powerbats has some secret Dance Magic up his sleeve!
Maybe everyone else is just massively ignorant and this lone dude is right >_>
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo."Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Well it literally cant happen anymore because devs removed it. You can unhook from all angles now. Its impossible to secure a hook unless you are a chainsaw killer
Why are we acting like "Face camping" was the same as "Hook Blocking".
Because that is what face camping means
If you wanna refer to a killer standing close to a hook nowdays, then it is called camping.
I feel there's a definitive difference between camping and standing one inch from a survivor making it harder to unhook.
Face Camping? Nah.
Hard Camping? Nah.
I'mma call it DEATH CAMPING @_@
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Unfortunately it does seem like the devs are still Survivor favored. The last two patches seemed promising, but this Q&A stream just broke that promise. It seems Survivor will always be braindead easy and Killers will never in the power role.
Bloodlust should not have been nerfed until every single god loop was removed. They just gave in to the scrubby children because of all the whining. It’s sad.
Status effects being removed is stupid. Another pointless buff to Survivors.
Giving Survivors a built-in Kindred 3 shouldn’t have happened until SWF was nerfed. They are bringing this in too early.1 -
Didn't need this latest news to know SWF is never going anywhere.
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@Beaburd said:
@Delfador said:
@Beaburd said:
I looove the idea of Kindred, and I sincerely hope they give people tier 3 for free.Too often do I see survivors hook rushing or camping a hook expecting the killer to leave and wasting precious time as a result. Heck, it's not uncommon for some people to waste the full two minute hook time waiting around like an idiot instead of doing the objectives in the meantime.
As well, I've actually seen quite a few killers literally camp a hook for two minutes while me and the other survivors are working on the same generator half a map away. Meanwhile I'm wondering what the guy's problem is since no one's even attempting an unhook. Then he repeats for the next guy if the game isn't done yet.
I'm hoping this innate Kindred effect can promote a more efficient playstyle for survivors by giving them the information they need to act smarter. This would, in turn, maybe motivate some killers to get out there and actually try interacting with other players. Now this would definitely increase gen rushing, but I'm optimistic that encouraging survivors to play more optimally might open the doors to introducing new objectives to slow the game down (I mean, they did mention - fingers crossed!) in a meaningful and fun way. This would hopefully alleviate the killer's time-related burdens, especially with the introduction of an innate Kindred.
Not to mention, talk about the incentive to run Open Handed (with a likely cap to seeing the killer's aura via Kindred's effects).
It is a terrible idea and will never work in favor of a killer.
Sometimes, survivors think that somebody will go and unhook the person on the hook. They continue to do the generators and the survivor on the hook gets to second phase. Works for the killer.
Sometimes 2 survivors run to the hook and get a save. The killer was able to waste 3 survivors' time at that moment. If he chases somebody, then the whole game halted. Works for the killer.
When kindred is used, we will be able to see if there is a survivor near a hook. If I see somebody around the hook, why would I waste my time to go there instead of repairing a generator?
Then you can ask why should it be in favor of the killer? Why should not survivors gain favor by getting hooked?
Getting hooked means a failure and we try to award it by giving a buff to survivors. It should not happen naturally. You can keep your kindred as a perk and use it but innate ability is too much. People don't understand but this change is much more problematic than bloodlust imo.
Exactly!
These inconsistencies in player actions due to the uncertainties of the situation often create killer-sided benefits. That's part of the problem in my opinion actually, as it's artificially making killers stronger in games by basing that strength on survivor decisions. This in turn, can make the idea of buffing killers kind of scary due to the snowballing potential from inadequate survivor responses alone.
Why not instead make these actions more consistent for survivors, and reward killers in some other way?
Maybe the addition of new objectives to give the killer more time to act, or perhaps a debuffing for hooking survivors for the first time? Maybe both, or something new entirely?
What I want from this new Kindred is for power to be more consistently measured and controlled by giving survivors the information to act more appropriate to a given situation. Then subsequently balance around that. I want to see killers rewarded not for survivor ignorance and stupidity, but for their own plays, decisions and accomplishments. Maybe even see an increase in the opportunities for such plays by the introduction of new meaningful objectives to off-set the time lost by increased survivor efficiency.
Yes, you're giving survivors additional information for free. But in exchange, I'm hoping for more consistent results in-game, less snowballing for either side, and hopefully better balance decisions when less variables are present. I really do feel this would be a decent step towards that.
Actually if they give killers abilities with which they can make plays, I am all for making game more complicated for skilled and intelligent players to show themselves. With this change, survivors will be able to make plays without losing anything. The problem here is that they give this buff to survivors without giving anything to the killer side. IMO, except for top tier killers, game is already survivor sided and this is why survivors could easily handle exhaustion nerf etc.
@Visionmaker said:
@Delfador said:
It is a terrible idea and will never work in favor of a killer.
Getting hooked means a failure and we try to award it by giving a buff to survivors. It should not happen naturally. You can keep your kindred as a perk and use it but innate ability is too much. People don't understand but this change is much more problematic than bloodlust imo.Giving survivors more information to be on par with SWF is obviously not intended to benefit the killer. Why should it? The point is so that solos' experience isn't absolute trash compared to grouping up.
Getting hooked shouldn't spell out instant death just because you decided to queue alone. Being able to coordinate with other solos will alleviate being left for dead on the hook and discourage camping.
The pallet changes, pick up changes (flashlight and save nerf), and low-tier killer changes are what is working to benefit killers as a whole. Soon, we'll have 4 killers buffed, with Pig confirmed on reddit as well. Changes that aren't dedicated to buffing killers aren't "problematic", they serve to fix other areas of the game.
I have quoted somebody and wrote my own post as an answer to him. The reason why I said that the new change would not work in favor of the killers was because he said something like it was going to be helpful for the killer side too. The sentence before the last sentence seemed like an innate kindred would be helpful for the killer. However he also mentioned secondary objective so most probably it was my own misunderstanding.
I believe the survivor side is already powerful enough to beat the most killers if not top 3. Although there are some strategies that can be played against SWF, lets not act as if SWF is balanced. Making solo survivors as good as SWF is not a good idea.
Although I disagree that getting hooked is an instant death, even if it is, you can sacrifice a perk slot for kindred. To this day, in order to prolong the game for a minute, hex ruin invaded most of the killers' one perk slot. I believe that the survivor side can do the same thing for themselves.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Raccoon said:
This also nerfs Freddy slightly more, too.Beautiful.
How so? You can't hit the guy that just go unhooked anyway, even if you run paint brush + Z block they can still get off and do something for 3 seconds after. If anything, Freddy is the least affected by the i-frames.
Can you Dream People during I-Frames?
More particularly, during Sprint Burst I-Frames?
Yes, why wouldn't you be able to?
And does SB even have i-frames? I don't think it does I think it just distends your hitbox. I've never had an instance where someone was immune to being slept.
SB doesn't keep you from being slept nor being hit and it never has, the smarter killers adjust accordingly.
How do you explain it that if you chase a sprinbursting survivor as billy and you get into "hit range", then the chainsaw just stops as if you were stuck on sth and the hit isnt applied.
That's still an issue with the hitboxes the phantom kind they fixed but made worse. Before it was get a hit/hit when there shouldn't have been one or don't when there should've been one. Billy's are hitting me around trees and rocks right now similar to Leatherface swing radius.
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@Raccoon said:
Clearly powerbats has some secret Dance Magic up his sleeve!Maybe everyone else is just massively ignorant and this lone dude is right >_>
Or perhaps I know what i'm talking about based upon experience and past posts from others about the you know phantom hit boxes thing.How about all the Freddy players that have no issue with it at rank 1-2, at least those with the proper addons.
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I see.
Tell me more about this issue and its relation to Sprint Burst in particular.
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Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo."Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.1 -
You do know Freddy’s sleep mechanic isn’t an active single target hit box mechanic, right? It’s a “straight line” status ailment AoE that’s active in front of him. There is quite a large difference in an active single target hit box, and an active AoE hit box. You don’t have to be anywhere near as precise with an AoE, most of all one that is permanently active as long as the player holds the button.powerbats said:@Raccoon said:
Clearly powerbats has some secret Dance Magic up his sleeve!Maybe everyone else is just massively ignorant and this lone dude is right >_>
Or perhaps I know what i'm talking about based upon experience and past posts from others about the you know phantom hit boxes thing.How about all the Freddy players that have no issue with it at rank 1-2, at least those with the proper addons.
When a Killer scores a hit on a Survivor, that’s because the “snapshot” the game registered has The Killers active hit box overlapping the Survivors hit box. This is precise. Freddy’s sleep mechanic is an active AoE, meaning the game takes MUTIPLE “snapshots” and if at ANYTIME, a Survivors hit box overlaps that AoE through MUTIPLE snapshots, the game registers it. When you swing for a hit it’s limited to ONE snapshot to determine if the hit was successful or a miss.
Freddy’s Sleep AoE has MUTIPLE frames to succeed. A regular swing has only ONE. Sprint Burst gives I-frames as the game simply doesn’t register the overlap of a single frame because when Sprint Burst is in effect the Survivors hit box is registered as going 150% movement speed, thus it is “ahead” of the Killers active hit box.0 -
I will enjoy riding another game if you dont mind, if these changes actually make it into the game, I dont see myself playing killer anymore and I never liked playing survivor because it is rather boring and not scary at all
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@Master said:
I will enjoy riding another game if you dont mind, if these changes actually make it into the game, I dont see myself playing killer anymore and I never liked playing survivor because it is rather boring and not scary at all
That´s what i mean. Killers will leave the game and survivors will review bomb the game, because they can´t get a lobby.
Survivors review bombed after some minor nerfs, that don´t even affect most of the players. But they pulled the grenade, like they did with Freddy. Devs gave in again and will nerf killers hard. Since killers don´t really have a leverage. Because killers are the minority.It will be glorious, because once again survivors get exactly what they want and they get a 45+ minute que, just like last october. Devs paniked back then and removed region lock + rushed the release of Leatherface.
Who knows what´s going to happen this time.2 -
@Tsulan said:
@Master said:
I will enjoy riding another game if you dont mind, if these changes actually make it into the game, I dont see myself playing killer anymore and I never liked playing survivor because it is rather boring and not scary at all
That´s what i mean. Killers will leave the game and survivors will review bomb the game, because they can´t get a lobby.
Survivors review bombed after some minor nerfs, that don´t even affect most of the players. But they pulled the grenade, like they did with Freddy. Devs gave in again and will nerf killers hard. Since killers don´t really have a leverage. Because killers are the minority.It will be glorious, because once again survivors get exactly what they want and they get a 45+ minute que, just like last october. Devs paniked back then and removed region lock + rushed the release of Leatherface.
Who knows what´s going to happen this time.I really hope that this will be the case. I hope that most killers gained hope in the game again with the 2.0,2.1 changes btu realize now they we just have been betrayed. They should either switch to survivor or to another game instead of being bullied.
And evne if this means that the game dies, honestly, I would even be somehow happy about that just because devs learned their lesson this way0 -
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
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@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the game0 -
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the gameOr, i don't know. You're twisting the definition to suit yourself. If a killer is kissing the survivor on the hook they are FACE CAMPING. CAMPING THE FACE.
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Suggestive is just a mod, not a dev. Same with Shiroku, Lizi, ect.Master said:@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
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Are they blocking the hook prompt from appearing? Nope, not facecamping then. If that was actual facecamping, the developers wouldn’t have said facecamping was fixed after the introduction of swivel hooks. GGSenzuDuck said:@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the gameOr, i don't know. You're twisting the definition to suit yourself. If a killer is kissing the survivor on the hook they are FACE CAMPING. CAMPING THE FACE.
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@SovererignKing said:
Master said:@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists. there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG. Also https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000442326-Can-I-report-a-player-for-face-camping-
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the game
Suggestive is just a mod, not a dev. Same with Shiroku, Lizi, ect.
Official customer support.
They literally say if someone continues to face camp and bounce between games searching for specific survivors. They don't mention any other ways to get banned by camping other than face camping. If they're willing to ban people for doing it to the same people it must still be in the game.
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You honestly think they are going to sit there and spend 30 minutes explaining the difference between actual facecamping that’s no longer possible to the Survivors “new facecamping” before saying it’s not bannable?SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Master said:@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists. there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG. Also https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000442326-Can-I-report-a-player-for-face-camping-
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the game
Suggestive is just a mod, not a dev. Same with Shiroku, Lizi, ect.
Official customer support.
They literally say if someone continues to face camp and bounce between games searching for specific survivors. They don't mention any other ways to get banned by camping other than face camping. If they're willing to ban people for doing it to the same people it must still be in the game.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the gameOr, i don't know. You're twisting the definition to suit yourself. If a killer is kissing the survivor on the hook they are FACE CAMPING. CAMPING THE FACE.
You are probably a new player that doesnt know what facecamping actually means.
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@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the gameOr, i don't know. You're twisting the definition to suit yourself. If a killer is kissing the survivor on the hook they are FACE CAMPING. CAMPING THE FACE.
You are probably a new player that doesnt know what facecamping actually means.
Never mind.2200 hours of new playtime my friend
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As in the killer is camping and I can see his face. Back in the olden days standing directly in front of the hook guaranteed that no other survivor could unhook them at all. That was dubbed Face Camping. Now u can unhook from the sides so even if the killer is standing there (presuming he doesn't grab u) u can get the save. That's called Hard Camping.SenzuDuck said:@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the gameOr, i don't know. You're twisting the definition to suit yourself. If a killer is kissing the survivor on the hook they are FACE CAMPING. CAMPING THE FACE.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the gameOr, i don't know. You're twisting the definition to suit yourself. If a killer is kissing the survivor on the hook they are FACE CAMPING. CAMPING THE FACE.
You are probably a new player that doesnt know what facecamping actually means.
Never mind.2200 hours of new playtime my friend
I wouldn´t give much on the whole customer support thing.
I reported someone who wished me, that my house burns down, with my family inside. He didn´t even get a temp ban. On the other hand i got a temp forum ban for saying "The BNP nerf finally arrived!"0 -
@Tsulan said:
I wouldn´t give much on the whole customer support thing.
I reported someone who wished me, that my house burns down, with my family inside. He didn´t even get a temp ban. On the other hand i got a temp forum ban for saying "The BNP nerf finally arrived!"You are consistently rude and condescending. Lets not pretend that sentence got you banned.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said:
I wouldn´t give much on the whole customer support thing.
I reported someone who wished me, that my house burns down, with my family inside. He didn´t even get a temp ban. On the other hand i got a temp forum ban for saying "The BNP nerf finally arrived!"You are consistently rude and condescending. Lets not pretend that sentence got you banned.
Wanna bet?
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@Tsulan said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said:
I wouldn´t give much on the whole customer support thing.
I reported someone who wished me, that my house burns down, with my family inside. He didn´t even get a temp ban. On the other hand i got a temp forum ban for saying "The BNP nerf finally arrived!"You are consistently rude and condescending. Lets not pretend that sentence got you banned.
Wanna bet?
Sure.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said:
I wouldn´t give much on the whole customer support thing.
I reported someone who wished me, that my house burns down, with my family inside. He didn´t even get a temp ban. On the other hand i got a temp forum ban for saying "The BNP nerf finally arrived!"You are consistently rude and condescending. Lets not pretend that sentence got you banned.
Wanna bet?
Sure.
First of all, i never insult. Unlike many others here.
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@Tsulan said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said:
I wouldn´t give much on the whole customer support thing.
I reported someone who wished me, that my house burns down, with my family inside. He didn´t even get a temp ban. On the other hand i got a temp forum ban for saying "The BNP nerf finally arrived!"You are consistently rude and condescending. Lets not pretend that sentence got you banned.
Wanna bet?
Sure.
First of all, i never insult. Unlike many others here.
Here you go.
LOL Steam. As if that has any relevance to the dbd forums LMFAO.
Also, I watched that video you linked the guy literally says "Face camping - where the killer spends 60% of his time in a 1 metre radius of the survivor". They literally defined face camping as being within a metre so i guess I'm right and this discussion is over.
OH and can we just add that the comment you were banned for was put in a Bug Report? Your comment was totally unnecessary, unhelpful and just you being a troll, ban deserved.
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Tsulan said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
Killers can’t body block the hook to remove the hook prompt. That’s what facecamping was. Though just like so many whining Survivors, you changed the definition of the word to suit your argument for justification. Bravo.
"Though just like so many whining Survivors, you"
Like all the other mains on this website - label me as a survivor because i disagree with cry baby killers.
I play both equally.
I'm not moaning about face camping, I don't care much to be honest, but to say it doesn't happen is to say survivors never run sprint burst.
Did I say I was a Killer Main? No, I didn’t. Nice job being a hypocrite, and slapping a label on me as well there genius.
Did I call you a Survivor Main? No, I said whining Survivor. By your own admission, you play both equally, so its the Survivor player in you whining.
Secondly, again, face camping isn’t possible because facecamping was body blocking the hook to remove the unhook prompt option. So no, it’s doesn't happen because with the introduction of Swivel Hooks, it’s no longer even possible to do.
You are moaning. And your using the word “facecamping” in order to add a more dramatic tone to your argument because it’s “powerfully foul.” That way you can make it sound much more horrible than it really is, and give your argument more weight.
Can we just remind ourselves you're arguing over nothing, i never complained about face camping. I'm just saying it still exists.
there is no argument to be "powerfully foul" lmfao - stop trying to sound smart you're arguing with me over something that never even happened, you think face camping doesn't exist because you think face camping is hook blocking (LOL). I think face camping exists because killer can oh i don't know... stand face to face with a survivor and not move... almost like they're face camping. LUL
Arguing over me "whining" when i didn't whine. GG.
This article from the dbd customer support page that was updated a month agree accepts that face-camping is still in the game
Funny that devs arent even aware of their own definitions. But probably it was just some random mod and not an actual dev, so nvm
Fact is that facecamping has been removed from the gameOr, i don't know. You're twisting the definition to suit yourself. If a killer is kissing the survivor on the hook they are FACE CAMPING. CAMPING THE FACE.
You are probably a new player that doesnt know what facecamping actually means.
Never mind.2200 hours of new playtime my friend
I wouldn´t give much on the whole customer support thing.
I reported someone who wished me, that my house burns down, with my family inside. He didn´t even get a temp ban. On the other hand i got a temp forum ban for saying "The BNP nerf finally arrived!"
sounds about right. if only they ran the game like the forum.
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@campasaurus said:
sounds about right. if only they ran the game like the forum.The reason was because he was trolling a bug report thread - his comment was unnecessary so he was removed.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@campasaurus said:
sounds about right. if only they ran the game like the forum.The reason was because he was trolling a bug report thread - his comment was unnecessary so he was removed.
It was on the General forum. Not the bug report forum.
There´s a difference!0
