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Camping is apparently ok sometimes
Firstly, hi and happy holidays, people.
Secondly, the reason for which I'm here: played with a killer who camped, we called them out in post-match chat, they said it was ok to camp because we "did 4 gens in 2 minutes".
The rant part of the post:
- I was playing with random people. I get a killer, Nurse, felt like she camped but I have a hard time judging when a nurse camps due to her blink power. Safe to say, she was always ready to jump in the unhooking area within 5 seconds. We only did 2 generators (will be important in a second).
- Moving on to the next match. This time, a Clown. The same person behind him though. Well, match starts, these new survivors that I got matched with and I are having a good match. We do a generator within a minute, move on to the second and someone gets hooked. I, having Kindred, can see that the killer is camping. So can the other survivors. Other 2 people try and get the rescue somehow, make an escape and we go onto generators again. Separate generators, I guess. At this point, I was doing one alone. I see one gen pop 5 seconds before I pop mine. Other 2 people were doing another one together, it seems, as the 4th gen of the match pops about 30 seconds later. At this point, someone gets hooked. Someone else. First hook. Killer camps. Me and other 2 survivors do the last gen together. It's done in no time. I go and open an exit gate so close to the killer that I had the heartbeat on (was faint though). Nothing. Killer stood and threw Aftertonics at the hooked survivor.
- Another thing that bothered me was that the killer said (in post-match chat) "easy", among other things. Honestly, if YOU see this, just because you hook 2 extra survivors (in endgame) who tried to save the one survivor you were camping, it doesn't mean it was easy. Me and the other survivor who tried the rescue could have just went out and you'd have been left staring at someone on a hook. Guessing that is easy to do though.
Now, killer mains, is there an unwritten rule about camping being ok when survivors are just good and do gens quickly? I was not aware.
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The reason that gens went quickly is BECAUSE the killer camped. The killer camping applies no pressure in the slightest, especially if the hooked player has Kindred. If they're complaining about genrush then it is their fault and they should learn how to apply pressure.
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Yes this is a rule didn't you read the handbook?
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Exactly. I was trying to make a point that the killer was camping long before we did the 4 gens in 2 minutes even though they said they only camped because we did 4 gens quickly. Honestly, have a guess at how we managed to do that. No pressure from you, of course we'll be relaxed.
PS. I only mentioned I had Kindred because we all knew where the killer was due to that perk (camping, that is where they were)
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Camping is a strategy, one that is almost always ineffective.
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While it sucks for the person on the hook, it can be the correct play. In the second example, it was definitely not the correct play.
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But it was this time...and I hate it. Killer got 2 extra kills and they definitely did not deserve it. At this point, I'm considering not trying to help someone doomed again. At least not without Borrowed Time. I hate to say, but I'd rather have the one camped survivor die than risk getting caught and offering the killer extra bloodpoints for free. You want the points, work for them.
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I played a match last night with trapper for the archive, and he is my worst killer. I went in with padded jaws. Rank 9 vs a team of red ranks. I had one survivor making it his mission in life to disarm every trap I set, and I obviously wasn't trying too hard.
I caught one, I trapped the crap out of him and camped him. Got the kill, and they had the nerve to tell me I didn't have to camp him. Even though the doors were 99% and they had borrowed time.
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Camping is always ok but it isn't always the best idea.
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The rule is, we can camp all we want, whenever we want. But that doesn’t make it a good strategy. 90% of the time, it’s the wrong strategy and just makes the game less fun.
I don’t camp often, but in all the games I have played, I can remember exactly once when camping was the right play.
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It's OK to camp
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The only time I'd think it would be okay to camp (more of a patrol) is if you KNOW there are survivors waiting by the hook. But killers will always say "I saw scratch marks" trying to justify it when no ones around. Called out so many killers on that one since I have kindred and knew no one was nearby
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It's accepted as a strategy by the devs while the survivor rule book is just by the survivors. Don't get me wrong, I hate camping cause I actually want to have fun and become a better player, but sometimes is necesarry.
Again, it's a strat
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I just don't get it. Killers are overpowered anyway so I am pretty sure anyone could get more bloodpoints when hunting survivors instead of camping. Unless people try to save that one doomed person. Then the killer accidentally gets more bloodpoints.
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Not really, anyone can play however they like bud. Me personally, I only camp when I get gen rushed or teabagged by a toxic ######### lol
Next time I suggest you just leave, that's what I usually do when I play survivor and a killer is camping and I also encourage everyone to leave me behind if I'm getting camped because well that's just how the game works, you win and you lose simple as that.
You should do the same when a killer is committing to the camp it's better to just leave unless you have perks like borrowed time, d strike or mettle of man otherwise it's just not worth it
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Killers aren’t overpowered my dude
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camping is always ok but not often beneficial.
The written rule is that camping is in the game, can be used and gets penalized.
I dont even understand why people still open threads about camping. I think it was everything already discussed enough. There are players who camp, so whatever.
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Camping is usually viewed as ok after the gens are done, before that it’s usually the sign of a bad killer. Even after gens are done, actually good killers may fight doing it still cause they might feel it’s lame, but at that point it’s not something considered bad.
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Strictly speaking - camping is okay all the time. Not just sometimes. It's a legitimate playstyle and it only works if survivors allow it to work.
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To you, to me it is not because it ruins the game for everyone and makes the game boring I don't even understand how killers have fun by doing it, I've done it myself and it's boring
I never said it wasn't a legitimate playstyle, I just said I don't enjoy when I do it and I don't enjoy when it is done to me
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It's not a matter of opinion, though. The devs state it's a valid strategy. Therefore it's okay. That's where it ends. You can not be okay with it, but that doesn't mean it's not okay to do.
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You're getting it wrong. It's always okay. The devs say it's okay. You don't make the rules. You can "not be okay with it", but it being okay or not to do is not up for debate or opinion, and therefore "to you, it's not okay" means literally nothing.
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Sometimes if a killer is camping and he keeps abandoning chases to camp. You just got to call it. The camping strat only works if survivors kamikaze the unhook. Its a lame but valid strategy.
Its also becomming meta to tunnel a survivor that you noticed is good in looping you. Also a valid strategy and a very effective one at that. While often a skilled survivor will get depipped because of it.
Some people will use the most sleezy ways to win. And this people are usually the ones saying "EZ" in end game chat. Its no different in any other game, where for example in FPS games people camp or in PVP games people bait.
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That was rather uncalled for - but hey, if you have to resort to personal attacks, that's on you. Camping is only penalized if survivors counter it. By doing gens. If they get more than 1 kill, they were not penalized.
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"I will keep dc'ing every time I get camped have a nice day buddy"
Life is gonna hit you like a brick 😂
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Mind your own business. You can't tell how others should play (unless it's abusing a bug or hack). Deal with it.
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Uncalled? Then what are discussions for? Lmao
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And how's it supposed to hit me? It's just a game dude lol
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Did I call you any names? I'm pretty sure I didn't lol you're trying to dictate to me what's okay and what's not okay in the game dude like I understand if you disagree but my opinion is my opinion and I'm entitled to it, like I said it's just an opinion not a rule
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It's always okay to do if you want to, but it's more commonly agreed upon that it might actually be the right choice in situations like endgame or if you really doubt you'll have time to catch anyone else before endgame actually begins. Even a lot of people that think stuff like camping at 5 gens + ruin up is silly totally understand camping at endgame.
Genuinely "mindless camping" like hard camping early game even when it's obvious the other survivors are doing gens to punish it is generally just a bad idea though. It's either 100% relying on altruism to reward the camping or cringy "playing for salt" behavior.
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Its ok, The_Second_Coming got camped without being hooked and he also DCd and tries to justify it. You guys are more alike than you think 😂
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Wanna know what's funny, I was defending him moments ago and I just realized it lmaooo now I'm glad he got camped without being hooked. Anyways it's just a game not a big deal
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I know that camping for the entire match is allowed I know that, I just don't like it that's all I've been trying to say for the past hour jeez lol
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I wont read all the text I will just say camping is justified of you see a survivor on the area and u soft camp. One thing is being a camper and another is being dumb and let easy escape.
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Oh yeah, I agree there. Obviously it's pretty boring to be on the recieving end of it, and personally I'd honestly rather get some more hits and chasing in than just camp someone to death even at endgame. Others might prefer getting the kill if they care about pips and stuff like that.
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If 2 survivors threw themselves at the killer knowing he was camping and he got to extra kills, then it's their fault and the killer deserved them because his tactic worked.
Camping is fine, you lose in the long run unless the team is overly altruistic. But it is a play that a killer can use and there is nothing wrong with it.
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Camping sux but most killers will tell you when gates are open all bets are off.
You should have left. 3 escape is a win in my book.
Did you have borrowed time? Protect the unhooker? You said gates were close. How did he get 2 more of you?
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Camping is always ok. It's unfun, but you can't force someone to change his playstyle.
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The MM is ######### and as a killer you will often face a full team of people much better ranked than you. If you are clearly hopelessly outclassed by people who have thousands of hours in the game, hook camping, especially with NOED, will get you the most kills. And that is your objective, killing.
People are overly altruistic (survivors are like honey badgers in this game, killer or not, they don't care, they will mess you up) and when NOED activates you can slug a few people to get 2-4k.. and death threats or comments about your mother after the match.
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Yes. If you do gens, the objective, it’s called gen rushing. This makes killers upset. The key is to start each match and wait 5-10 min before approaching a gen. This gives the killer time to check their totem, lay traps, etc.
Fir good measure, drop a few pallets or quick vault so the killer knows where you are and can tunnel you down before any gens are done. Then they won’t camp, unless they’re losing still and then they will camp. Good luck.
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I am not dictating anything. The devs do. They dictate that camping and tunneling is okay. That's the end of it.
Clearly I'm arguing with a troll.
Camping someone on the hook and body blocking them in a corner (a bannable offense) are two different things. Your trolling is a failure.
Case and point. You actually don't know the difference between camping, and being taken hostage.
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Hello, can I introduce you to my good friends, borrowed time and decisive strike? As much as I hate camping. Mostly because it's boring af to do. I don't blame the killer because it is a strategy *COUGH COUGH BUBBA'S Basement BB* especially if all the gens are done and the gates are open and all. I would feel bad too, but you can't argue the reality that a killer would definitely do so irl as ingame camp the hook in certain situations to secure a kill. Though imo you aren't playing the killer right as with noed if you need, or feel the need, to camp.
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Unpopular opinion: if you gotta camp you gotta camp. Had a game where I got gen rushed down as Huntress, so when I did catch someone I hooked them right up in front of the exit gate and proxied like a madman.
I just ran around the hook chucking hatchets and waited them out because I knew they weren't going to leave someone behind. They didn't coordinate a good unhook, so I downed two people that went for it, popped their BT, hooked another and started cleaning up after BW activated. Turned a 1k into a 4k and the survivors we're good sports about it, sometimes it do be like that
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