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Does Dead Hard = Tunneling?
I hardly ever run Dead Hard because it's even more unreliable on console than it is on PC, but I've been trying it the last few times I've played. HOLY CRAP am I getting tunneled. It's almost every single game. Is this something that really triggers killers? It's not like I'm not putting on Balanced and using Haddonfield offerings. I've gone from red to one more tunnel away from green because of it. When I play killer and I find someone good at being chased, I tend to leave and see if I can find someone else who isn't as good. It seems that killers are like, "Welp you wasted my time so you're going to die, regardless of everyone else escaping easily." There have been three Doctor games tonight alone where because of pure bad luck on spawn, he makes me scream about six seconds into the game and I don't even see a gen before I'm tunneled into the next lobby.
So, console survivors who run DH - do you experience this too or is tonight just extra spicy for me for some reason?
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Just for a little dash? No
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Sometime happens. But its not the perk itself its just the killer getting rustled for not being able to prevent it
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For certain people almost anything you do that prevents them from immediately downing and hooking you = tunneling. If they keep falling for your DH then that'll probably cause it. Any decent killer just waits it out after the first time, though.
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well i got tunneled for : Sprint burst, Head on, BOND, for doing gens, not doing gens and many many other things
its just killers thing what he hates <shrug> you cant possibly play as random person would want in every possible situation
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I don't notice any extra tunneling because of dead hard... but i rarely use it as a survivor.
When I play killer I try and bait it out. If it gets them to the next loop then I just drop and find someone else.
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Tunneled because of bond?
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I mean a lot of killer players have the mental fortitude of a 8 year old girl so that's possible
But not likely I don't think.
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The only thing i can think of is that Dead Hard only extends chases and doesn't end them
So you will have trouble losing somebody who is prone to tunneling in the first place
Personly i don't mind dead hard
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Not trying to justify, but a lot of played DH for distance to drop a pallet and then teabag said pallet, THAT will get tunnels from a lot of killers (not me)
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If you're getting angry at a Survivor for using Dead Hard, as a Killer player I'll say you need a break, cause of something so small gets you angry over a Survivor, take a breather or go out and do something,
vice versa for Survivors.
You won't play as well with anger, you want a open mind.
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Bond helps you make decisions that makes it seem like you're... you know, sentient at all.
And everyone knows that automatically means 4man SWF! /s
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Nah, the only time I occasionally teabag is if there's one person left who has been a good teammate and I want to make the killer angry on purpose to give that person time to escape. If I'm able to drop a pallet, I use that time to get the frickin' frack outta there.
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What Rank are you?
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I started this experiment at 3 and I just hit 9. I've had at three games tonight where I haven't even touched a gen for a second. My scores are just boldness and I think a little altruism for when the killer steps around the teammate who unhooked me and goes for the tunnel and I get a protection hit.
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dead hard is a perk that's meant for irritating the killer by being bold. irritated killers = survivor gets singled out.
if you don't want to be targeted then use stealth perks and survival perks and avoid the bold perks.
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dead hard is better used for interrupting the chase on another player. you run towards the killer and "dead hard" through their attack which causes the attack animation cooldown and now the killer has to decide between you or the one they were chasing to begin with.
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Most of the console killers are babies
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Excuse me, but I’m 9, thank you very much! And I only tunnel when most gens are done and I don’t have many options! Or when the survivors teammate is over confident, thinking I won’t tunnel if they unhook while I’m still standing there.
Oh, you think I’m going to take the bait and chase you and let the weakened one go? Nope, you enjoy watching me ignore you while I down that poor survivor you just farmed.
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Red Rank is normally tunnel-town, it's unfortunately one of the more effective ways to play Killer at that level.
But people don't normally tunnel due to perks. Most tunnelling is either due to toxic behaviour (.e.g. tea-bagging) or being simply being annoying to chase (.e.g. looping the same area 10 times and still not dropping the pallet).
It's more psychological triggers than mechanical ones.
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And that's why DS is pretty much mandatory in this game
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If there is a part of the map that is being abused I know that I will lose but damn it if the abuser isn't losing with me.
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I use dead hard and I get tunneld near enough every game but then I see it as I’m wasting there time why my team pushes on gens but I don’t think it’s coz the perk lol
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It’s pretty useless if there’s more than 1 gen left and the killer has enduring. Heck, the survivor could be dribbled or slugged for 60 secs, making DS irrelevant.
Also, if the killer decides to start the match with tunneling, he could get rid of everyone’s DS early on.
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Dribbling no longer exists and Enduring no longer affects DS. What year are we in?
And if you waste time getting rid of all the DSs, good luck not having all gens pop right in your face vs good survivors.
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What does this even mean? And why would you even add gender into to equation?
I guess you are saying killers are immature. But are you also trying to imply girls are less mature than boys? Get with the times my friend and allow that all people are individuals and avoid hurtful stereotypes.
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Dead Hard is frustrating to go against, but I think balanced landing is more annoying. If a gen spawns next to a hill, you ain't catching nobody who BLs to the other side of the map.
Some Killers look for any reason to get mad. I once had a spirit facecamp me for "abusing" a window on father Campbell's chapel... one of the most balanced maps in the game. Just play the game how you want and laugh at the chumps who get mad. That's all you can hope to do
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Gens popping are not a problem if you go for the weakest survivor and ignore the ones that try to bait you. Less survivors alive, the easier it is to kill the stronger ones.
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The point you're missing is: if you no-hook everyone else just to go for a weak link, you'll have 2 gens left vs good survivors.
If the remaining survivors are good, you'll just downright lose and have 2 kills at most.
Tunnelling as a general strategy is bad vs good survivors. Tunnelling when the time is right is extremely valid and effective, but if you build your entire playstyle around focusing one person you'll just get dumpstered by good survivors every time.
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But tunneling isn’t my main strategy. I only use it to spite over confident unhookers who think I won’t tunnel the person they just unhooked 1 second after I hooked them or I use it when I have to near the end of a match. It works well when I play trapper. Doesn’t matter how good the survivor is, if they don’t know a trap is there, they’re screwed.
It also works well when the experienced survivors abandon the gens to try to save their teammates. Thinking I may switch target for their easy bait.
I don’t tunnel teams of potatoes. I like to draw out the match for them so everyone gets bloodpoints. If no one acts toxic I do my best not to tunnel or camp until it’s obvious I have no choice, especially since I don’t play the top tier killers.
Also, I don’t need 4 kills. I know it’s unrealistic to expect that at all times. I’m happy with 2 kills.
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Remarks like this cause tunneling.
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I don't tunnel someone when they DH me but I sure am going to bait it out every time possible from that point forward.
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yes because in killers opinion i played around teammates so good so he thought im in comms with randoms
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He isn't wrong. The players of this game as a whole are very whiny and upset by the smallest of things.
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lol yeah, every time DH doesn't work (which is every game, let's be honest) I'm like, at least they don't know yet!
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Maybe if you Dead HArd a legion to stun him he might get mad enough....beyond that I can't see anyone holding a grudge against Dead Hard, I mean half the time it doesn't even work right.
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I also fail to understand how the Killer would know you had Bond...
And even if they did, tunneling for it makes no sense lol.
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I don't tunnel for deadhard, it's really only annoying vs nurse. If you break my totem..... Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You broke my totem. Prepare to die.
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The try hard really comes out on double BP. You aren't getting tunneled bc of dead hard it is because of sweaty killers for bloodhunt
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I don't get that either. I am nicer to people as killer. I give hatch nearly every time, I don't tunnel, I run party streamers, etc.
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Yeah unless you're a proud tunneler you can't be taken seriously. I tunnel all of the time. And tunneling is bad against the best survivor. Not against good survivors. There's always one you just shouldn't chase. At most 2. You almost never run into both of them back to back unless one is clearly baiting you. You have to be very good and flawless to escape an experienced tunneler. Odds are only one of them is that good. Take the weakest like he said , and domino them.
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I do not tunnel dead hard. I try to tunnel key bringers but usually forget. About the only thing I do tunnel is tea baggers, if they're good and annoying to catch. If you suck and are wanna be toxic, you got problems that wont be helped by me killing you.
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well killer thought i was swf with randoms because i was kinda coordinated with what they are doing, and thats bonds doing
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