Is it easier to double pip as killer than survivor?

greenzebra64

I'm a killer main so I usually get 3-4 kills a game and it's an easy double pip. I've been trying to get good at playing survivor and climb up the ranks lately, but it's taking a longer time because I consistently get single pips. It seems as if you have to be the best survivor and carry the team in order to double pip. In order to get higher emblems, you have to do three gens, save two people and heal them, be chased by the killer for quite some time, and escape (preferably not get downed). It just seems as if I don't have as much control over my emblems as survivor because it enforces a play style, while as killer all I have to do is mind game, hit people, and manage gens.

thesuicidefox

It's because you can get totally ######### by Benevolence if the killer camps or the guy you save is just an idiot. I've had games where I should have clearly pipped but since the guy went down within 10 seconds I didn't because I lost all my Benevolence as the guy just ran right to the killer or some nonsense.

To double pip as killer you just need to kill at least 2 before the last gen is done. To double pip as survivor you almost literally have to do everything; 3 gens, 3-4 saves, escape 3 chases without getting hit, and escape the trial without going down.

Eninya

Yes. Killer requirements are piss easy.

As a survivor, you have to singlehandedly do ~3 generators, save multiple people successfully, and run the killer around forever while still escaping. You can still double pip if you went down, but you need the aforementioned requirements to make up for it.

NMCKE

Eninya said:

Yes. Killer requirements are piss easy.

As a survivor, you have to singlehandedly do ~3 generators, save multiple people successfully, and run the killer around forever while still escaping. You can still double pip if you went down, but you need the aforementioned requirements to make up for it.

I can show you a game where I received all iridescent emblems as a killer. This was a recent game that I had a day ago while a survivor game with all iridescent emblems is near impossible IMO. 
The funny thing is that one game I got destroyed and every survivor escaped... yet I still 1-pip up!

Runiver

I find it equally easy to pip for both roles.
And I'm a better at killer than survivor.

Baphomett

In my experience, a single pip is far easier on Survivor, whereas a double-pip is all but impossible unless the other survivors are potatoes and you bring BT.

On killer, the single pip is harder (unless you camp) but if you get any momentum going then going from a single- to a double-pip happens pretty regularly.

qpwoeiruty

Survivor double pip is fine where its at, maybe it needs to be harder for killer? Im a decent survivor and i probably get a double pip maybe every 10/15 matches which is where it should be...

feffrey

Just face camp and you'll double pip each game 

Fengminni

greenzebra64 said:

I'm a killer main so I usually get 3-4 kills a game and it's an easy double pip. I've been trying to get good at playing survivor and climb up the ranks lately, but it's taking a longer time because I consistently get single pips. It seems as if you have to be the best survivor and carry the team in order to double pip. In order to get higher emblems, you have to do three gens, save two people and heal them, be chased by the killer for quite some time, and escape (preferably not get downed). It just seems as if I don't have as much control over my emblems as survivor because it enforces a play style, while as killer all I have to do is mind game, hit people, and manage gens.

I double piped as a survivor only once and only because the killer started to farm at the end of the game resulting in me doing 4 gens unhooking survivors 4 times and healing them and getting chased around the map for 5 minutes straight. Double piping as a survivor is nearly impossible. Sometimes I even get -1 or 0 although I rescued and healed 2 survivors and did 1 1/2 -2 gens. Sometimes I do not understand the pip system. 

Peanits

Personal experience, your mileage may vary, but I find it very hard to "lose" as a killer (in the sense of deranking). It just feels like emblems accumulate far easier than you can lose them, so it averages out positive in the end. A decent game gets me a pip, a good game almost always gets me a double pip or close to.

Likewise, as survivor, I've had plenty of matches that I would consider good (several generators, an unhook or two, lost the killer in a chase once or twice, escaped) only to find that I barely pipped or just safety pipped. I can count the number of times I've double pipped as a survivor since the emblem system on one hand.

Ihatelife

@Peanits said:
Personal experience, your mileage may vary, but I find it very hard to "lose" as a killer (in the sense of deranking). It just feels like emblems accumulate far easier than you can lose them, so it averages out positive in the end. A decent game gets me a pip, a good game almost always gets me a double pip or close to.

Likewise, as survivor, I've had plenty of matches that I would consider good (several generators, an unhook or two, lost the killer in a chase once or twice, escaped) only to find that I barely pipped or just safety pipped. I can count the number of times I've double pipped as a survivor since the emblem system on one hand.

For me is ez to depip as the killer

Abyssionknight

Makes sense to me that Killer pips faster.

Killer has 4 people to chase, catch, and hook. The Killer also only has to rely on their own abilities to get points.

Meanwhile Survivors have 1 killer to chase, are competing with other people for heals, unhooks and generators. That makes their point gain a lot less reliable and a lot more dependent on how their team performs.

So of course the Killer pips easier; he isn't competing with others for his points.

Mesme

I wouldn't know if it's equal cause I'm a piss poor survivor and I'm rank 7 atm as for killer rank 6 and I mess around a lot too so... I wouldn't know.

Elegant

It's a lot easier to double pip as killer

Might_Oakk

A big difference is a killer 2 pips off terrible survivors.

If the killer is terrible the survivors may not even single pip.

NMCKE

Might_Oakk said:

A big difference is a killer 2 pips off terrible survivors.

If the killer is terrible the survivors may not even single pip.

Actually that's not completely true since every day, great survivors get destroyed by nurses. The nurse is the only killer that has control over the game if the player has the skill. This also applies to other high tier killer's like Billy, Hag, Huntress, and Clown but with way less effectiveness compared to what the nurse can do.

Here's another 2-pip as a killer with me letting the survivor have the hatch, it's really easy to be honest!

Master

I would say it's slightly easier to double pip as killer than as survivor but it's tremendously easier to pip as survivor than as killer

Boss

To me yes, but i guess that's what happens when they only know how to loop.
If i get someone who doesn't just loop but also know how to juke and hide and stuff, the chances slim down fast for me.