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Bamboozle is very strong on huntress

greenzebra64
greenzebra64 Member Posts: 65
in General Discussions

She can be played around with in jungle gyms, cowshed, cow tree, and killer shack quite easily so Bamboozle cuts off a lot of time.

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  • Beaburd
    Beaburd Member Posts: 998

    Bamboozle feels almost mandatory on some M1 killers. The time wasted by windows is just immense, and with this event, generator rushing is becoming even more prominent (even through ruin). There's just no time in a lot of cases.

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  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    Bamboozle is mandatory on all killers except nurse because map design is broken

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    I disagree slightly. It definitely helps but some spots like Storehouse can still be looped.

    Personally I would like if Huntress movement speed went up to 115% when she runs out of hatchets.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    Except for some extremely rare window sequences that synergize each other, this perk seems inherently worthless to most killers.

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  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    @Hillbilly420 said:
    It depends. On the Storehouse it depends on if they heard Bamboozle shut down the cancer window. If you Bamboozle the cancer window and get rid of a pallet or two in that loop spot you have a pretty decent chance at getting them.

    No it really doesn't help. Bambo usually lasts just until they get to the window again, I ran it a few times on that map with Huntress and they just kept going around like it wasn't even there. It helps with the shack, pig tree, jungle gyms, and double L walls but for some major structures it does nothing. Torment Creek is another map where it fails. Bambo is also completely useless on Lery's because of the sheer amount of windows, and is mostly useless on Game because of severe lack of windows that can be looped (most of the windows on this map are a 1 time use, prolly the only one that you can use to loop is the freezer window).

    I personally find Brutal Strength to be more reliable overall compared to Bambo just because there's never a spot where it's not that great to use.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    Bamboozle 3 should just disable a window completely until you vault a new one. Or, what if you could disable the last 3 windows you vaulted, indefinitely (until a new one is vaulted, and the oldest one opens up)?

    That would make it a godly perk, and you wouldn't even need the increased vaulting speed at that point.

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @thesuicidefox said:

    @Hillbilly420 said:
    It depends. On the Storehouse it depends on if they heard Bamboozle shut down the cancer window. If you Bamboozle the cancer window and get rid of a pallet or two in that loop spot you have a pretty decent chance at getting them.

    No it really doesn't help. Bambo usually lasts just until they get to the window again, I ran it a few times on that map with Huntress and they just kept going around like it wasn't even there. It helps with the shack, pig tree, jungle gyms, and double L walls but for some major structures it does nothing. Torment Creek is another map where it fails. Bambo is also completely useless on Lery's because of the sheer amount of windows, and is mostly useless on Game because of severe lack of windows that can be looped (most of the windows on this map are a 1 time use, prolly the only one that you can use to loop is the freezer window).

    I personally find Brutal Strength to be more reliable overall compared to Bambo just because there's never a spot where it's not that great to use.

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..

  • MauXD24
    MauXD24 Member Posts: 75

    I use it instead of bloodhound (I need that perk cuz i love it), and it really saves you time when u run out of hatchets and they start to loop you lol

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  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Hillbilly420 said:
    I think Bamboozle is mandatory on every killer sans Nurse for obvious reasons.

    And not Hag, Hag can benefit from pallets and windows.

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    Zanfer said:

    @thesuicidefox said:

    @Hillbilly420 said:
    It depends. On the Storehouse it depends on if they heard Bamboozle shut down the cancer window. If you Bamboozle the cancer window and get rid of a pallet or two in that loop spot you have a pretty decent chance at getting them.

    No it really doesn't help. Bambo usually lasts just until they get to the window again, I ran it a few times on that map with Huntress and they just kept going around like it wasn't even there. It helps with the shack, pig tree, jungle gyms, and double L walls but for some major structures it does nothing. Torment Creek is another map where it fails. Bambo is also completely useless on Lery's because of the sheer amount of windows, and is mostly useless on Game because of severe lack of windows that can be looped (most of the windows on this map are a 1 time use, prolly the only one that you can use to loop is the freezer window).

    I personally find Brutal Strength to be more reliable overall compared to Bambo just because there's never a spot where it's not that great to use.

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..

    Right, because if they're the last one left I should just give them the hatch?
  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786

    @Hillbilly420 said:
    It doesn't help at all on Crotus Penn Asylum because the cancer building has just too much cancer. It's all cancer. Whose' idea was it to add 4-5 completely safe pallets and two window vaults on the first floor of that building? I want to slap the guy who thought that was a good idea.

    I guess you don't remember when all the possible pallets were guaranteed to spawn in that building... That was pure cancer.

  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    edited August 2018
    Zanfer said:

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..

    Everybody can loop because its easy, its nothing compared to most games , for example in TF2 you  can rocket jump and use a Rocket to stumble an enemy into the air to a corner while you switch to your shotgun to finish him of before you even touch the ground yourself.

    Even the nurses skill cap just pales compared to high skill characters in many FPS or fighting games.

    So abandoning them will only lead him to heal up while the next runs in a circle around a building, pallet or jungle gyms.
  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Hillbilly420 said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @thesuicidefox said:

    @Hillbilly420 said:
    It depends. On the Storehouse it depends on if they heard Bamboozle shut down the cancer window. If you Bamboozle the cancer window and get rid of a pallet or two in that loop spot you have a pretty decent chance at getting them.

    No it really doesn't help. Bambo usually lasts just until they get to the window again, I ran it a few times on that map with Huntress and they just kept going around like it wasn't even there. It helps with the shack, pig tree, jungle gyms, and double L walls but for some major structures it does nothing. Torment Creek is another map where it fails. Bambo is also completely useless on Lery's because of the sheer amount of windows, and is mostly useless on Game because of severe lack of windows that can be looped (most of the windows on this map are a 1 time use, prolly the only one that you can use to loop is the freezer window).

    I personally find Brutal Strength to be more reliable overall compared to Bambo just because there's never a spot where it's not that great to use.

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..

    And then they can heal up and repeat the process. Brilliant strategy, Einstein.

    It's called finding the weakest link. If you chase one survivor around a stupid hard window and you can't catch them find another one to weaken the 4 and kill one out of the game...

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Peasant said:
    Zanfer said:

    @thesuicidefox said:

     @Hillbilly420 said:

    It depends. On the Storehouse it depends on if they heard Bamboozle shut down the cancer window. If you Bamboozle the cancer window and get rid of a pallet or two in that loop spot you have a pretty decent chance at getting them.

    No it really doesn't help. Bambo usually lasts just until they get to the window again, I ran it a few times on that map with Huntress and they just kept going around like it wasn't even there. It helps with the shack, pig tree, jungle gyms, and double L walls but for some major structures it does nothing. Torment Creek is another map where it fails. Bambo is also completely useless on Lery's because of the sheer amount of windows, and is mostly useless on Game because of severe lack of windows that can be looped (most of the windows on this map are a 1 time use, prolly the only one that you can use to loop is the freezer window).

    I personally find Brutal Strength to be more reliable overall compared to Bambo just because there's never a spot where it's not that great to use.

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..

    Right, because if they're the last one left I should just give them the hatch?

    No that is not what I mean. What I mean is if their are 4 survivors or 3 left go for a different one that wouldn't just run to the stupid window. More likely to down them and surprise them or find a weaker link. If it is the last person just bloodlust them..

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Zanfer said:

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..

    Everybody can loop because its easy, its nothing compared to most games , for example in TF2 you  can rocket jump and use a Rocket to stumble an enemy into the air to a corner while you switch to your shotgun to finish him of before you even touch the ground yourself.

    Even the nurses skill cap just pales compared to high skill characters in many FPS or fighting games.

    So abandoning them will only lead him to heal up while the next runs in a circle around a building, pallet or jungle gyms.

    Again yall think every survivor in every game is a good looper when you can easily just find the weaker survivor by leaving the stronger one to knock them out of the game so the game goes in you the killers favor more. You can outplay a survivor on a shorter loop than a stupid broken window loop btw...

  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    Zanfer said:

    @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Zanfer said:

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..

    Everybody can loop because its easy, its nothing compared to most games , for example in TF2 you  can rocket jump and use a Rocket to stumble an enemy into the air to a corner while you switch to your shotgun to finish him of before you even touch the ground yourself.

    Even the nurses skill cap just pales compared to high skill characters in many FPS or fighting games.

    So abandoning them will only lead him to heal up while the next runs in a circle around a building, pallet or jungle gyms.

    Again yall think every survivor in every game is a good looper when you can easily just find the weaker survivor by leaving the stronger one to knock them out of the game so the game goes in you the killers favor more. You can outplay a survivor on a shorter loop than a stupid broken window loop btw...

    1. Looping is still easy.

    2.  You are basicly asking to camp and tunnel the weakest person, which is by far the biggest complaint of survivors.

    3. What if every survivor in the game can loop good enough? Should one easy as hell technique be enough to garantee that the Killer gets defeated? 

    4. The thread nor most complains are about unsafe pallets that can be easily mindgamed.
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  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Hillbilly420 said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Zanfer said:

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..

    Everybody can loop because its easy, its nothing compared to most games , for example in TF2 you  can rocket jump and use a Rocket to stumble an enemy into the air to a corner while you switch to your shotgun to finish him of before you even touch the ground yourself.

    Even the nurses skill cap just pales compared to high skill characters in many FPS or fighting games.

    So abandoning them will only lead him to heal up while the next runs in a circle around a building, pallet or jungle gyms.

    Again yall think every survivor in every game is a good looper when you can easily just find the weaker survivor by leaving the stronger one to knock them out of the game so the game goes in you the killers favor more. You can outplay a survivor on a shorter loop than a stupid broken window loop btw...

    Here's the thing bud, you don't have to be a good looper to 1 V 1 the Killer. A map like Rancid Abattoir gives them so many pallets all bunched so close together that it's ridiculous.

    Yeah I know there are broken maps with tons of pallets, not my issue that is the games fault

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Zanfer said:

    @ChesterTheMolester said:

    Zanfer said:

    Or how about you don't run the window and find another survivor who isn't running that loop easy fix..



Everybody can loop because its easy, its nothing compared to most games , for example in TF2 you  can rocket jump and use a Rocket to stumble an enemy into the air to a corner while you switch to your shotgun to finish him of before you even touch the ground yourself.

Even the nurses skill cap just pales compared to high skill characters in many FPS or fighting games.

    So abandoning them will only lead him to heal up while the next runs in a circle around a building, pallet or jungle gyms.

    Again yall think every survivor in every game is a good looper when you can easily just find the weaker survivor by leaving the stronger one to knock them out of the game so the game goes in you the killers favor more. You can outplay a survivor on a shorter loop than a stupid broken window loop btw...

    1. Looping is still easy.

    2.  You are basicly asking to camp and tunnel the weakest person, which is by far the biggest complaint of survivors.

    1. What if every survivor in the game can loop good enough? Should one easy as hell technique be enough to garantee that the Killer gets defeated? 

    2. The thread nor most complains are about unsafe pallets that can be easily mindgamed.

    1. Not everyone is perfect.

    2. Survivors complaining when they die because I find the weakest link and stop them from progressing gens mmhmm.

    3. Than all the survivors can easily get out which is why killer is still weaker than 4 optimal survivors unless it is a nurse that knows how to play.

    4. People complain about an obstacle when you can find another person not near the obstacle you hate