Is Susie Latina?

Demogordon_Ramsay

I never really took the time to look Susie’s unmasked model up and down in good detail, so this entire time I just went under the presumption that she was white. Taking a good look at her though, I’ve noticed a couple interesting things.

-Her skin tone, though not dark by any means, is substantially less pale than Julie’s or Frank’s. Obviously Caucasian people can easily have a darker skin tone than these two examples since there’s a difference between being white and being pale, but I would say Susie’s skin tone looks less like a richly-toned white and more like a light brown.

-Susie’s eyes appear to be small and slanted, implying the presence of epicanthic folds. While it is possible for white people to posses this feature, it is much more commonly seen in people of mestizo heritage.

-I’m absolutely terrible at both biology and anthropology, but something about Susie’s jawline and chin says “Latina” to me. I tried comparing the jaw shape of Latin American women to the jaw shape of white women, and while what little research I knew to do seemed to portray the average Latin American woman with a wider jawline and more forward chin similar to the one Susie has, I haven’t actually done any studies or taken any statistical measurements to prove such a fact. Above all else, it’s mostly just a hunch.

I’m left confused and curious. This entire time I thought Susie was white and just didn’t think anything of it. Now, though, I’m really not too sure. My girlfriend is currently sketching out a drawing of Frank and Susie, and neither of us are sure whether to portray her as Latina or as Caucasian. What do you think? Have the devs made any statements about Susie’s heritage?

FireHazard

@Demogordon_Ramsay

This is more of a lore question/debate for the Lore Sub-Forum, but i'll answer it regardless.

the sub-questions

For this i'll answer each sub-question through a bulleted list below, just to make things easier:

• Sub-Question 1 (While the skin-tone can come off as a darker tone than some Caucasians look, it actually is a around that skin-tone color from Caucasians. Think about it, you can look a bit tan and still be Caucasian... and her skin-tone seems to give off that vibe, even if it's sometimes obscured through the dirt on her face in some areas. After looking through several models that use different lighting and what-not, her features still look Caucasian to me. Of course I could be wrong, but i'm not seeing anything that could tip me off otherwise, it's hard to just go off of skin-tone alone if it borders on Caucasian and Latina, but to me this looks Caucasian from the many different images her model is put under, some have different lighting than others and the close ups don't tip me off to it being the latter.)
• Sub-Question 2 (I can agree that it could seem that way under some of the models images, but I disagree that it's the case for several reasons. For one, other models that "resemble her" in the image search have been revealed to have the same features, and while you did say that some people can posses this feature, I personally think it's the case from what is shown in any different comparisons from the other Legion members and "images that resemble her". Also, her face is always stuck in a grinning feature, this could also make it seem that way due to her face never moving from that expression. If you were to smile right now, your eyes would adjust and squint a bit from where they naturally rest when open, so to me, this seems to be the case. Again, I could be wrong, as comparing the models eyes to the example you gave is tricky and not also accurate either...)
• Sub-Question 3 (This, as you said, seems to just be a personal hunch of yours. I wouldn't really go off of jawline and bone structures to determine someones ethnicity, as it could lead to misconceptions if not accurately researched. While I also doubt this would yield an answer about the question itself, I could be wrong, as I've been proven wrong before in the past about many different things. In any case, I wouldn't delve into something you don't really know a lot about, as it could yield misleading results.)

conclusion

Personally I don't want to make any assumptions about someones ethnicity or anything like that, as it's truly difficult to get an accurate answer off of a model with several different images that portray her in different lighting, let alone a real person for example. Also, her "happy" expression never changes, unlike Franks for example that's always left in a rested and neutral expression.

For the sake of the question though, I gave some opinions on it that clashes with yours. Whether or not it may "convince" you otherwise was not my intention, my intention was to just give you another view on it, and what you take away from it is up to you.

At the end of the day, we can't always determine someones ethnicity off of how they look alone, especially if it's a model from a video game, one that never has a changing expression and different lighting used on each image that portrays them in a different way.

Perhaps you can try asking a dev in an open Q&A or something, otherwise, it's just best left up to assumption until they either give a response or not. Either way, this is what i'll give to you as an "answer" of sorts.

Awakey

Maybe. Living so far north makes it likely she's ethnically Latina but her nationality is Canadian. (Yes, there is a difference.)

MrsGhostface

Pretty sure she’s white. I’ve looked at so many pictures of her in game and that’s what I conclude.