WHEN IS FACECAMP GOING TO STOP?
Seriously what is wrong with you devs and killers? Dont you understand that facecamping is NOT fun?
Not only it ruins the game for 1 or more survivors, but it also awards the killer with a pretty decent amount of bloodpoints which is even more frustrating for the survivors. Killers should be punished for this braindead game play because they literally make the game toxic.
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I'm sorry, but can you blame killers at this point? Do you really think they like doing this to survivors? Blame the Devs, not the killers. I myself have resorted to this crap just to even earn a single kill. Ruin being nerfed has really made it pretty much near impossible for many killers to even keep pressure on. Matchmaking lets Red ranks just bulldoze through low rank killers. Have you even attempted to play killer recently? If not, I'd suggest you do before you make these assumptions of killers. Then you will see just how bad it is for us!
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You seem to forget the fact that survivors are also "toxic" as well. Yes, face camping isn't fun, but neither is going against a 4 man SWF just for them to harass you at the end of the game. It's unfair for both sides; I'm assuming you're a survivor main? If not then my bad, but you need to consider what's fair or not for both sides.
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it's a tactic , just like finishing 3 gens in the first minute and a half is a tactic.
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What's your point? Looping isn't fun for the killer either, and takes about as much skill as facecamping (i.e none).
Don't stand around the hook waiting for him to leave. Fix generators and get out of the match.
The only reason the killer would make any sort of decent points is because the other survivors are dumb enough to reward him for the camping.
Survivor main saying this, btw
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Camping and tunneling is a result of poor game balance. Fix the balance problems and you'll see those play styles go down dramatically.
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2 gens popping in the first minute can also be pretty frustrating. And you know what else is braindead? Holding m1 at the generator all game
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Lol did you just equate a technique requiring map knowledge and overall game awareness to something you can do without pressing a single button? i think thats a false equivalence there buddy
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When NOED changes.
Its easy to throw the game taking one survivor out knowing you have a crutch that will net you at least another kill, maybe more.
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All these people blaming it on the game lol
I’ve seen killers camp with no gens done and old Ruin still up.
People will camp no matter what if they want to.
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Running around a broken pickup truck a couple of times and tapping space to drop the pallet before you get hit hardly requires "map knowledge" or "overall game awareness".
As long as you have a pair of functioning eyes and basic cognitive skills, anyone could do it.
Keep in mind that I said looping took about as much skill as face camping, not as much input from the player.
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So you say that this game is unplayable as a killer without old ruin? Really? As a killer you dont need to kill all 4 survivors to actually win the game.
As for the looping, i cant understand what's your point. Its the only actual way to outplay the killer if you are good at it (and no man, you are wrong, it takes skill, it's nothing like camping). If survivors couldnt do that, the game would be completely unbalanced.
I am a survivor main, but i've also played killer and have never basecamped, and still had very good games. The only games that were really frustrating as a killer, were the ones where i played vs red survivors while i was still green or low purple.
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Never, Facecamp Bubba is life.
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Are you responding to me? Your comment about the skill seems to indicate so.
Seriously, looping really doesn't take skill. Give control of the game to someone who's never played it before, and give them the instructions of "run around that pile of trash a few times, and make sure to interact with the big wooden board before the other player reaches you".
Again, I said it's on par with face camping regarding skill taken, not the amount of input required.
Survivors can definitely survive without looping. I'm a Survivor main (as stated) and I do it all the time. It's by far not the "only way to outplay the killer".
I've heard breaking line of sight and hiding does wonders.
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face camping will go down when
- the maps are better balanced
- the game is better balanced
- the devs stop being survivor biased
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When is tbagging and clicking going to stop? Oh it's never ending? Well facecamping continues get over it.
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It won't stop.
Pretty much this. The devs had the lack of sense, and the balls to tell killers "just let the first 2 gens go"...killers responded by saying "Instead, I'll just tunnel and camp the survivors because they are overly altruistic and will go for the save even if they know the killer is camping, and then turn around and complain about it like it's anyone fault but their own".
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It's a sad truth. And now, this is making more survivors turn even more aggressive by baiting a grab, or having a teammate distract you in someway while another grabs the survivor, and then proceed to body block. And who says DbD isn't fun these days? 🤷♂️
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I'm pretty sure you're doing great job as a survivor without looping ^^
You can't outplay killers just by crouching and hiding. But maybe you are one of those players that hide in lockers all game long.
One wrong turn in the loop can get you caught since all killers are faster than survivors, so yeah it does require some skill.
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whether you focus on skill or input, still a false equivalence
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It's not going to stop. Killer are pissed over the Ruin nerf and take it as an opportunity to use ######### tactics. #RuinWasBadStopComplaining
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Probably never
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It all really depends on what you did as survivor and/or how quickly gens popped in short time lol
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Um. Ya know facecamping is an acceptable thing to do, right?
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Well it's easy to throw games when survivors have the devs on their side and fail to address longstanding issues. Expect NOED to get abused in the new meta.
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You could fave my level of toxicity. Slugging with Knock Out and Sloppy. Being facecamped is a literal blessing compared to being slugged for the entirety of your timer. Mainly because you still have a chance of taking another survivors time to try to find and pick you up over doing gens.
Count facecamps as a blessing, there is worse to play against.
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I do it
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Yea I do it too
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You right that why I do it
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No camp. You can stay on floor and wait for Rancor. If Rancor will be nerfed, Devs can play their own buggy mess.
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It's pretty easy to counter face camping killers, except Iri head Huntress and Bubba.
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No, they don't get a lot of BP for it. They get more for hooking you more times, and stopping gens. It is not a great default tactic, since face-camping one player leaves the other 3 free to complete gens without any hassle.
It appears that you are a newer player, which likely means that your team is spending time trying to rescue you from the facecamp rather than completing objectives. What incentive is there for the killer to go out to find survivors when they are coming to him/her? Also, a lot of what people perceive as face camping is due to other survivors being in the area near the hook.
Some face-camping is tactical, some is just lazy. You can punish the lazy ones by not falling for it. Your team should punish them by completing gens, while you hold out on the hook for the entire duration. The killer will soon realize that a single kill, on a single hook, while 3 other survivors escape, is not the best of strategies.
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To get facecamped instead of proxy camp, you must have done something toxic like being alive after 3 gens pop
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When Ruin is restored and gen times adjusted properly, till then git gud and don't get caught
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You are doing something very wrong if you have to facecamp to get a single kill, lol. Go watch some YouTube Vids or Streamers. You might get better.
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I play killer more than survivor and I can say I take great pleasure in face camping If the survivors are toxic butt holes. It’s worse down in the red ranks , they have to drop a pallet and teabag afterwards every time, oh look at me I’m a rank 2 I can bounce up and down like a #########. When they start that crap with me right off the bat in a match I show them what toxic really is. If they do manage to get pulled off the hook then they get tunneled. Typically they start a chain reaction of their buddies trying to body block and irritate me with flashlights so then one by one they suffer the same fate because they’ve all pissed me off. More times than not a red rank swf is too cocky to let each other die and complete gens while their first toxic friend dies and it ends up doing them all in. If they play normal and just run around and try to drop a pallet on me and loop around objects it’s fine, I’ll hook them and go clear across the map, a lot of survivors who complain should think about things like this before they do it.
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Proof that face camping is fun:
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If it's such an issue, run deliverance, and dstrike. Or go play survive with friends and have them run borrow time.
Killers dont get extra bloodpoints for pipping. The rest of the team should do the gens and leave. That's how you punish that killer... the get low points, depip and only get a 1k.
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I don't face camp, but I'm pretty sure making sure you're not found first and don't get downed fixes your problem. Who cares about the other guy on the hook. Get the Gens done and get out.
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Sadly for you, camping is a valid strategy and in my case when I play the game I don't care about your fun I care about my fun (this is what this game has turned into because of toxic survivor mains and toxic killer mains as well that like to trash talk and harass people) and if gen speeds don't change (which is definitely an issue even though the devs won't acknowledge it) I will do whatever I have to do to secure my kill. I rarely face camp, but if I'm getting gen rushed and I have no other choice I do it and when I get face camped as a survivor I don't complain because it is a valid strategy and entitled players need to understand that sometimes you lose and sometimes you win, period.
Ps. Lately I've been playing more survivor than killer because of how unbalanced and frustrating the game is when I play killer, and I'm not talking about the ruin nerf I'm talking about getting gen rushed almost every damn match.
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Do you know how the devs could punish face camping? By making the hook timer stop when the killer is camping you unless EGC has started or you are the only one left of course.
Is this really so hard?
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Do you know how devs could punish looping? By making the survivors health slowly deplete until they are in dying state.
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when survivors stop clicking their flashlights and teabagging.
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oh and vault spamming.
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Maybe survivors should stop, wait in corners of map, and then start their objective when the killer is ready. Is that better? Would that sound more reasonable? Gen rushing is the stupidest term ever created in a game. Sorry, next time we will wait until killer says “go”.
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lol . I never said it was wrong, dont put words in my mouth. please tell me how a killer like hag is supposed to stop 2 gens popping from the other side of the map
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youre a troll. nobody is going to take what you say seriously .
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Oh look, yet another thread full of "devs bad, killer good"
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Face camping will stop when Survivors stop falling for it.
Do the objective and escape, Killer depips and gets jack for points.
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Its kinda messed up how effective facecamping can be because survivors often times will INSIST on looking for an opening for a save, even when there obviously isnt one. You could hold a revved chainsaw over the hook and nod at each survivor who shows up, and they'll still stick around for WAY too long.
The survivors on this game did a single gen... They were really good sports though, which is why I gave one guy a thumbs up.
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Those are not the same. Face camping is like spawn camping in FPS.
Finishing 3 gens is not like that at all.
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