Slugging Perk
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Also, you thought killers didn't need to slug sometimes to get a 4k because you're clearly a green rank survivor main, a red rank survivor that plays killer as well would never come up with something as ridiculous and survivor biased as what you just posted and the fact that you get mad at everyone who disagrees with you even though they give you constructive criticism only makes it more obvious. The reason why we need slugging in the game is because gen rushing is part of the game as well, if you don't leave people on the floor and force survivors to stop doing gens then how can you win? You can't chase four people at the same time, thereby slugging is a valid strategy to stop survivors from gen rushing and sometimes killers don't have any other choice. I recommend you play more killer, reach the red ranks and afterwards give your opinion on slugging lol you definitely need a taste of your own medicine my friend.
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If you created a thread and didn't care about other people's opinions then why did you create it?
Also I'll add this, what should a killer do if hooks are sabotaged in an area they downed someone? Just hope that they don't get anyone else until the other person is picked up?
It's very honestly a terrible idea for a multitude of reasons, most of which you have decided to ignore because you would rather ignore something that doesn't fit your narrative of how the world should work. Get over it and look at both sides.
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Of how the World should work? Bro calm down. Were talking about DBD here. I promise you sweet pea its not that serious. Also if there were no hooks (which is unlikely 4 survivors took out the entire side of the map) then they stun you. and youll most likely tunnel them down. And im not ignoring anything. Im giving you reasons on why youre reasons to slug are bullcrap. No one has yet to answer my question and every reason you guys give for slugging are so small and trivial they dont matter and it all ust goes back to u be salty cause a survivor one upped you with something.
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All my friends i play with are red and purple. My friend is also a red rank killer. Im the only green rank when we play. 9 times out of ten when we play our killers are red rank. You dont have to slug in general to win. You personally do so you think you somehow set the standard for the game but you dont. You can get 4k without slugging. Ive seen it done. My friends do it all the time. I see random killers do it sometimes. And also that just proves my point about what i said earlier. The higher your rank the more you killers facecamp tunnel and slug. Literally everyone says that. Sucks when people feel the need to derank cause they dont want to face those of you at the top who got there by basically slugging every single game cause you cant get a 4k otherwise. Again that is based off your ability not a survivors.
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Theres been a few comments like yours. Which just makes me somewhat rethink my post entirely cause a lot of you depend heavily on slugging and it shows. Idk if thered be a game without slugging since most only skill is slugging.
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Good lord this thread is cringy as hell. Now that baby survivors got rid of Ruin, and killers are adapting correctly, the baby survivors now also want to get rid of slugging. How about equipping Unbreakable, or finally get good?
Good lord ...
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I took out 9 hooks in one game yesterday and you think it's unlikely? Your narratives are laughable at best. If this was implemented sabo would come back in force.
If you're that pissed about it I wish you could've played 2+ years ago because you would've quit with how often slugging happened due to permanent sabo, learn from history my dear.
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I slug if it's situationally beneficial, or I'm running perks for it specifically. I camp when I'm down to 2 gens and haven't even gotten a hook. Some games go like that. They usually get away anyway.
Toxicity is directly proportional to how aggravating the survivors happen to be. If I'm getting a lot of chases and hits in and having fun, maybe I don't even care if I don't get a kill. I still get a ton of BP for my effort. It's those games where I don't even see one it two survivors because they've been hiding in dark corners and doing gens non stop that really piss me off. And of course the runners who always seem to be faster despite technically not, or looping stairs or buildings, or ditching me in corn because their aesthetics are like frigging camo on some maps.
Don't even get me started on Claudette and her brown everything put up against half the outdoor maps' brown color pallettes. It's just infuriating at times, and I get that's the game, but when you can't get a game in as a survivor without waiting for ten minutes for a lobby because all of the killers out there are being scared off the game for that evening, it gets pretty demotivating. I mean yeah is love to switch to killer, I'm killer main, but I'm one of the frightened ones. Five or six games in a row of five minute gen rushing really does get old.
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Yeah I'd like to see killers get a 4k against four rank 1 survivors without slugging, it's impossible. Anyways you're a green rank survivor main so I'm definitely not going to waste my time arguing with you, you're inexperienced so there's no point lmfao and it's funny how survivor mains like you (who also only swf and don't even play solo) talk about changing killers when they've never played killer at all🤣
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Just got through this thread and had several things I wanted to say. But it really isn't worth it. Does anybody know a mod to tag that can review and close the thread? It is pretty ridiculous.
Btw @Bunnie you still did not answer the question how the perk should actually work. And especially, what happens without the perk. As is, it would mean every survivor is invincible without the perk, once a survivor is down. Which would mean, the killer will never reach a hook as they can body block infinitely. Make a solid suggestion or be revealed as troll.
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I think teabagging and gen rushing should be a perk. I think that would help with the toxicity of some survivors
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Are you suggesting that without a perk, a survivor would just pop back up from the dying state if one of his teammates went down?
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The killer would never be able to pick a survivor up due to teammates immediately healing him.
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Downing survivors is OP, make it a very rare DLC perk that can only be purchased through the full pack which is worth $30 and contains old Self-Care and DS plus "The Entityville Slugger."
Without the new The Entityville Slugger perk, downing two survivors will result in the first automatically getting back up. With the perk this doesn't happen, plus their bleed-out timer is halved.
Honestly, we need a perk for survivors to do 360s and 180s. It'll be called "Big Spins"
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I'd buy this DLC just for the perk names lol
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The problem is that Killers need to slug sometimes, by applying that pressure they can end a game quickly, there are plenty of anti slugging perks in the game, and Killers can't be expected to just forfeit the game to waste time hooking a survivor in a situation where they need to be applying pressure, I understand slugging for a 4k is really damn annoying, and I wholeheartedly disagree with using that tactic, but most good killers need to use slugging as a way to apply pressure and keep people off gens so they don't get overrun, the downside of course is not increasing the hook state of the survivor, meaning later on that survivor will be alive longer especially if the team works well and doesn't give the killer the opportunity to profit off of slugging again
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What the ######### am i reading? What's next?
Fixed a bug when killer could hook survivors without using hangman trick?
Fixed a bug when survivor could attempt to repair generator without deja vu?
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im not a troll but go off. Imagine being so simple minded that anyone who thinks different than you is a troll.
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id be down for that. i dont spin so lmao
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Yea thats all i mean. Like i just was on twitch watching a game and it was 2 red survivors nd 2 purple. They had one more gen to get done. So the Michael decides i cant win i want my 4k and slugs the last three with one hits. So hes hooking ppl then waiting on DS and then while he did that the third one got up using unbreakable so this survivor is running unhooks one michael hits him so the survivor runs to the other hook same thing happens there and then he continues to slug and one hits the last survivor. Theres no reason 3 people should be slugged on the ground. No one person survivor or killer should have the ability to tke over the game which is what ive been saying. slugging to take over a game at any time is garbage. If you truly cant get what you want out of a game without slugging then maybe practice idk.
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If thats how you feel man.
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then you need to reread cause i did answer the question. And you thinking im a troll doesnt bother me. Look at how many posts i have up. Champion of trolls over here. You could just not read the thread. Seems easy enough. Theres no reason more than 2 people need to be slugged on the ground. Whether its a time limit or a slug for this amount of time during the game then you cant anymore idc. I actually dont care if people slug but slugging to take over a game cause you cant get survivors dead fast enough is garbage. Most of you have an issue with this cause you slug the entire game. You need to you have to. But you say its to apply pressure. Right.
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Ive played killer. And i dont play solo? How would you know that? You wouldnt. Assumptions make an ahole out of you. Especially when you have no idea what youre even talking about. Would you like me to direct you to entire streams of me playing DBD by myself? Exactly. Keep the assumptions to yourself. You look extremely stupid when you have no idea what youre talking about. And majority of my friend who play are red and purple rank. Playing with them all the time is not something i want to do. But that was a nice try. You can pull your foot out your mouth now. 🙄🤦♀️
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Well, pretty much everyone explained about slugging and you either ignore or don't understand. Doesn't really make sense to repeat what pressure means then. There are 3 pages of discussion now that didn't help apparently. And I can tell you, no dev ever would take into acocunt making slugging a perk
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No actually not one person explained the slugging in the way that I presented it. One person said it's to apply pressure and I asked apply pressure to what? In what way? No answer. The rest of you came along and saw that one answer and suddenly you all do it to apply pressure which i know is BS. And again as ive said numerous times slugging to take over a game is not okay. Not slugging in general. But because so many of you rely on slugging as a means to be what you think is a good killer you all jump to the defense like children. Only a few here read what i was saying about taking over a game. At no time in any game should one person killer or survivor be able to say i dont like how this game is going im going to change it and actually have the ability to do so. Lets say slugging was a perk. Why would that be an issue if you all claim you only use it to apply pressure? It wouldnt be an issue. But you use it consistently in a game not just to apply pressure. Also I dont need a dev to take anything I say into consideration. I can and will still state how I feel about it. Regardless or people whining about me being a troll when I have less than 5 posts lol. Sheesh. I hope you take that as a lesson learned. Doesn't matter who agrees or disagrees or whos listening that you would state your opinion regardless.
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How about this.
You have just downed a survivor next to a gen, and there are 2 other survivors nearby who were working on the exact same gen. One of them has a flashlight. You can either:
- Leave the downed survivor and stop the 2 others
- Pick up survivor
One of these applies pressure, the other allows the survivor to be flashlight saved.
But wait! After listening to some one named Bunnie, the devs at BHVR decided to require a perk in order to slug, and you forgot to equip it! Guess you have no choice now but to let them get the save and die on the inside!
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Dude you are difficult. JUST in case this is only a communication problem I try to wrap it all up.
1) Your perk and how it works. You explained nowhere how your perk should work and how it works if you don't run it. Show me page and post where you do it. Stand now, it would mean that, without running the slug perk, every survivor is invincible as long as anyone is down, because you cannot down a second person. And that would mean, a killer will never pick up a downed survivor, as a second survivor may just sit on that downed survivor and heal him up, taking infinite hits. And second, if you COULD manage to pick someone up, the others could take infinite protection hits to prevent you from hooking the survivor. And that is even more BS than your 4-slug antipathy.
2) To the "apply pressure", in more detail: Several people explained it, but you seem to not understand. When someone is slugged, others need to heal him up or he bleeds out. When the next one gets into chase, there are already two people not working on gens. When the second goes down, guess what is next. Somewhere you said "killers can't apply pressure, you're not their teacher or coach". Well, you can. Pressure means, the survivors need to do anything. They need to heal slugged people, they need to unhook other people, they need to escape from you when you are chasing them. Otherwise they are running low on survivors very soon.
2b) Snitz said "Apply pressure=making survivors get off gens", your comment to that was just "^^^" no idea what you mean by that. You also said "You need the survivors off the gens cause youre losing". OF COURSE YOU DO! If you just let survivors do the gens, then you are doing nothing! But you can't prevent 4 people from doing gens at the same time. You can "apply pressure" in several situations. The basic thing is chasing. Then you apply pressure just to that one survivor you are chasing.
2c) An example To apply pressure to multiple survivors, you can use slugging. Like when you downed someone near an almost finished gen and have seen someone else around. You don't hook that guy, you go for the second one to prevent him finishing the gen. You put pressure on the second one, you put no pressure on him when you go hook the slugged one. The second one will finish the gen while you are carrying the first survivor. By letting him on the ground, you also might pull someone else away from a gen that tries to get him up. 3 people not working on gens by letting the one guy down. Or 3 people working on gens by picking him up to get the hook. Get it? That's the pressure you can set up by slugging. Same on situations where someone attempts the unsafe unhook. Best thing you can do is to down both of them. Again 3 people not working on gens as one should be leaving the gen to get the downed person up, otherwise there will be soon noone working on gens as soon as the third chase begins.
3) "Taking over the game" Another thing, just to make sure. You said: "Slugging 4 people doesn't apply pressure. It ends the game". If you mean by sluggin only the situation where 4 people are slugged, then you did not really point that out through the whole thread. Slugging basically just means downing ANY survivor without picking him up to hook him, not ALL. If you have a problem with 4 man slugging, that's a different thing. Taking away the possibility to slug is a whole different thing and cuts killers' possibilities by half. You also don't explain what you mean with "take over the game". I read it as "the killer tries to switch an almost secure loss into a win". If you just mean that the killer wants to end the match by downing all 4 survivors, then it's the survivors fault, as it shouldnt be too easy to get 4 people down by just slugging. There should always be enough room to get them up again with 4 survivors up, unless the killer is running an explicit slugging build, running KO, deerhunter and so on. That's the same like when the super altruistic survivor teams already opened the gate and then try to save that one hooked survivor, ramming themselves up on the hooks like crazy because they want that 4 escape so damn hard, resulting in a 3k after all. 4 man slugging without a build should not occur that often. You also brought up the Myers example with the triple down in a single Tier 3 phase. I rarely see so many downs in a single Tier 3 phase. That is definitely a survivors fault. Especially the one where the unhooked person runs towards the next hooked person. This just creates domino downs. He should have run away from the slugged and hooked one, so that the last survivor has no threat taking care of both survivors. That sould also end the Tier 3 in time, while all others can heal up and take care about unhooking the last one or simply escape and leave the killer with a 1k. By making slugging a perk, you just allow survivors like that to do stupid moves and get away with it. They could have done better but did the worst attempt to achieve it. That should not be the situation to balance around.
If you respond to this post, please respond with "to 1)" "to 2)" etc because sometimes I get the impression that you only respond to stuff you can answer in your favor and ignore the rest. Just to make sure that you read everything and understood it.
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I can't tell if OP is trolling or they're really just this dense. Every argument they've made has been some single digit IQ argument that has been disproven.
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I know it’s not the point of this thread, but hey, how about some actual perks based around slugging?!
Killer perks
Blood Thinner: survivors bleed out faster.
Quicksand: significantly reduce survivor crawl speed
Crybaby: um, they cry. Like actually cry, loudly, when slugged
Survivor Perks
Slug: slowly bury yourself in the ground, like a slug. Buried portions of your body are immune to killer aura reading. (Survivors can still see you, and you can still crawl.)
Drag: pull your slugged buddy to a safer location with no (or minor) penalty to movement speed. He can still “recover” while being dragged.
Dummy: use nearby rocks and sticks to make 2/3/4 decoys of slugged survivors. Though they’re not perfectly identical, it’ll be hard to tell the difference in tall grass. The decoys have a readable aura, and they remain in play for the whole match. Cooldown of 60 seconds between building decoys. The killer can pick one up, but it’ll crumble at the end if the animation (wastes his time) and restore a charge for you to build another elsewhere.
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Think I’m going to start slugging survivors thanks to this thread. I mean I usually slug the last two or too give one recent hooked survivor a second chance even though I know he didn’t bring DS.
But if slugging really helps against strong toxic SWF who knows when to body block and gen rush than I will give it a try. Unless it doesn’t work and only potato survivors are complaining about slugging.
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It should work on a Nurse, or on a insta kill killer.
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Haha I like those perk ideas ;)
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Huntress axes are NOT affected by animation enchancement. They may have broken hitboxes, but they are NOT homing towards you.
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I didnt say they were but the hit boxes on them are broken. also dont know why you even replied to this cause i dont really find it an issue. it was just a general statement. huntress is one of my fave killers to go up against.
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i wouldnt mind it. sounds entertaining. idc about slugging in general i just dont like when its used to take over the entire game. i like the blood thinner one and the slug. someone else mentioned bleeding out faster too.
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sorry that was for you ^^
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and yet you took the time to reply. People think im trolling or this or that yet still come to make statements like these as if any unoriginal insult you have for me actually changes my GPA or IQ or magically sucks my education from my brain. Stay on topic if you dont have anything of value to say. Thanks.
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that just proves my point. Also I'm not a big SWF. I play with friends sometimes and never enough to affect anything. But sure lol go ahead. You got me? 😂
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I never insult anyone first. Obviously if you say something towards me im going to say it back. And if this was bait then why are all you here? Lol. Is it that easy honestly? Sheesh man. Get it together. I also play for fun. Idk what rank you are but for me its hard to find good matches. And all i hear from the purple and red ranks is how it gets even worse. dont know you enough to call you a troll. Im grown man calling people troll on the internet doesnt really do anything for me. As for everything else you said i didnt get it.
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Dude yes i did i said it like 8 times. Idc about slugging but slugging specifically to take over a game is where my issue is. Im not a big killer but even i slug. Like for example when some survivor keeps doing dumb crap and ive already hooked them twice but its early in the game ill leave them and go after the others to give them another chance. Or ill hit one trying to body block or something. I never slug more than two at a time and i dont slug to prevent hatch. thats not my thing. i feel like if you pulled hatch you deserve a chance to get to it. My problem is specifically when its used to end a game like when theres one or two gens left and three people and you just slug all three. Whats the point in that? That does nothing for anybody. I feel like a lot of youd depend on it to win. But it kind of confuses me cause ive played killers who dont slug at all and have wrecked us whether im playing with randoms or with friends. It can be done. But yes i understand what youre saying about applying pressure but what im saying is that has nothing to do with slugging when its used to end the game which is what im talking about. But yea thanks for the feedback.
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R/whoosh
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Bait thread is bait.
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Hey thanks! Yeah I was initially making these ideas as a tongue-in-cheek joke, but the more I went the more they actually seemed pretty fun! You can see the progression of that post from very little detail to putting more and more thought into each individual perk! Lol
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Yea i hadnt thought it out thoroughly but i really did like that bleed out faster one. And yes lol i know but those were actually dope suggestions. I mean technically if youre injured and you do too much and use too much adrenaline then yea you could bleed out. Anyway thanks for the feedback!
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With such passion? Thats your choice of word? Passion. Aww. Im going to go out on a limb and say you should refrain from using a word for something you have never experienced. I cant be inexperienced in the game but also passionate about a game you said i was inexperienced in. Make up your mind. Anyway thanks for the feedback enjoy your weekend.
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Okay so thanks for all the feedback and the other stuff. Yes I have less experience than a lot of you if not all of you here. However my mind wont change about one person having the ability to take over a game at any given time. That was my issue with slugging. Not applying pressure or giving some survivor you feel bad for another chance but taking over the game. Its been a whole weekend so I probably wont reply anymore. Enjoy yourselves!!
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You were supposed to reply with 1), 2), 2a) and so on, you clearly didnt even read the whole thing
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