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Kobe'ing as last survivior
WHY IN THE ######### YOU CAN'T KOBE AS THE LAST SURVIVIOR?
You can kobe if you are on your first hook, but if you are the last survivior, the first phase gets skipped without any escape attempts.
Does anyone have an explanation for this phenomenon?
Not only you die instantly, but you are also denied points for struggling.
Why
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because you'd just be hunted down and killed. At that point the game is over.
Also if you spam space you can get some points for struggle.
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Yeah, playing survivor is so unfair, smh.
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There's no point.
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Well what if I dont
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Do you really have a problem with game being 1 minute longer?
Why cant I decide if I want to die or not.
Are you scared of being 1v1 by an injured survivior or what?
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I run DS, DH and unbreakable I have a chance of hatch is close
I don’t really care much, but it’s a good point why is that one person denied any chance? They just get one hooked and bye
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He's right, we should just mori them instead.
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Id rather use that slot for bp farming, but if you are that scared of kobeing then its your choice
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Yes, i'm petrified.
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Because the killer would just down you as soon as you got out of the hook.
And then you would spend over a minute on the ground because of ds.
And then you would be back on the hook.
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killers already sit there if your the last person to be hooked. Give them a chance to get off I don't see it playing out any differently then what got you on that hook in the first place. Literally would just be giving killers a free hook
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You wouldn't decide. RNG would.
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I was hoping to the Bloody Entity that this Claudette didn't stop struggling because it would've told the game to automatically sacrifice me on first hook.
However, here's a situation where kobing matters as the last survivor, since y'all think it's pointless. 😁
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Depending on how they played i "might" let them off and out. If they were toxic little brats. Forget it. Back on the hook with a few head nods. Play nice or as nice as is possible - i dont mind FL as that is what you chose - and if you kobe ill let ya. Nobody ever lets me out when i kobe.
Speaking of kobe.....RIP
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and? Jump off. Get hit because who leaves the last hook. Also because you can be hit the second you land but can't use DH then.
Bring yourself up because unbreakable. Get hit again right away. Wait the rest of the 20 seconds. You also can't use DH the second you get up from nomither and unbreakable. However, you can be hit the second you stand.
You brought not only crutches, but an electric wheel chair, a ramp, and paid extra for the wheels that can climb stairs only for them to remove the stairs entirely.
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If you are the last survivor and you are on a hook the game is over. That is why. It can't be explained any simpler than that. Anything you could potentially do is just a waste of time. Butt hurt survivors would sit there and go through the entire sacrifice process just to waste the killer's time. The one in a million chance that you use Deliverance followed by dead hard to get to a hatch before getting caught isn't worth every game having an extra 1-3 minutes added on.
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Replace DH with sprint burst and this changes things.
This too, there are times I hook someone last for the first time. I want to give them hatch, but I also want my stack of BBQ do why joy let them have a chance to escape?
Im already playing a game lol one extra minute isn’t wasting my life.
Not 1-3 minute, just 1 for first stage. Second stage would still not allowed struggle because at that point the survivor can’t get off the hook themselves.
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OP specifically mentioned not getting points for struggling. Everything else I said still stands. It's a pointless waste of time which factored over millions of played games means millions of wasted player minutes.
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So you would be in favor of a change where once all survivors are inside the exit gate the game ends? I mean why wait 30 seconds for them to teabag until the killer comes over?
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Absolutely. At the very least there is the EGC that will end the match one way or the other. But yes. If it were purely up to me then I would sign off on that. The small chance I have of downing a survivor and actually being able to pick them up isn't worth the wasted time.
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lmfao i just see him jumping off and saying " AHAHA!" and the killer just slapping him down as soon as he moves and looking at him on the floor
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It's pointless because the Killer just camps the last Survivor until they reach stage 2, which the Killer clearly did not do in that video. :P
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I think it's pointless due to many reasons.
To me the video clearly shows why last survivor should die if he gets put on the hook (even if it's their first hook). The killer will just down you, again. The only reason he got out was through Decisive Strike, which is going to get reworked (eventually).
Personally. I don't see a reason why the last person should get another chance. They got chased/downed and the killer decided to hook them. End game. Why force the killer to redo the process because you didn't escape the first chance you had?
I think it's good enough we already get second chances when all survivors are on the hooks and the game doesn't end there.
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I mean, yes, it is pointless for a number of reasons, but I was speaking primarily in the context of the video.
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I would've crawled out regardless, 60 seconds is more than enough time. >:D
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If the killer managed to kill 3 players, find the last guy before they found the hatch, down him and hooked him the killer earned that 4k, as the last guy you had several chances to escape and the killer outplayed your entire team fair and square
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Nobody is scared to 1v1 an injured survivor, but yeah, people don't want to drag out a match that's already over. People want to move on to the next match.
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Not if you have ds
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Thats the most legit reason for kobeing as last survivior. Giving the killer 1 more hook.
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If one survivior didnt get hooked the entire game then he also outplayed killer fair and square
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With that logic, a Blendette not contributing to the team or the Obsession of a killer using STBFL/Dying Light "outplayed the Killer". Not getting caught isnt outplaying the Killer, its buying time for your team to do the objective. You only outplay the Killer if you escape (or die, depending on your definition of winning, but you get the point).
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- You say that kobeing would let the last survivior escape from your deserved hook
- At the same time you say that kobeing survivior would get instantly downed and would give you free sacrifice
Make up your mind already
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I remember when I would see a survivor kobe off a hook, so then I just go "######### son, okay there's the door, you go champ". Which taking it away so I couldn't do that anymore didn't bother me. The No struggle points though, damn why. I don't care if I have to stand there and taunt you till die as killer. Take all the time you need to struggle on that hook.
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Because if the killer has killed everyone else (or they have escaped) and manage to hook you alone, they are entitled to the kill. You are only entitled to what you get as killer or survivor. The killer got the kill. You didn't escape. Deal with it.
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Hows about we all take a look at something really quick.
1. You have a 4 percent chance of getting off the hook already granted not much but still a chamce.
2. There are meny perks you can run to not only get off the hook but also to avoid being hit or even picked up (i.e. DS, delverence, unbreakable, ext).
And three its a survival game not a catering servace its ment to be chalanging but not unfair but to sugest that you should just get off the hook because your the last alive would be not only be tipping the scales in favor of the survivor but also just a waist of time because if the killer is smart they would have hooked everyone once already thus the survivor not being able to attempt escape.
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If its only 4% then why not remove it altogether? Its not fun when surviviors unhook themselves.
"but to sugest that you should just get off the hook because your the last alive"
No, not because Im the last alive, because thats my first hook. First hook means you have escape attempts. And it should mean it always. What we have now is "tippin the scale" towards the killer not survivior. You are taking away their right to unhook themselves, just because they are last.
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That is certainly fair. Though to also be fair, it is possible that if the circumstances allowed for it, the Killer could have placed you on a slightly further hook such that 60 seconds wouldn't have cut it. If they allow last Survivor to unhook, I imagine more Killers would attempt to take such precautions.
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No one is entitled to anything in this game.
Last survivior is not entitled to hatch and killer is not entitled to 4k
Deal with it
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Last Survivor is not entitled to a self-unhook. :P
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Kobe is 4%, killers always have to consider it.
Its not hard to know if you hooked someone already or not
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But self unhooking is a guaranteed game mechanic?
Every time you hook someone for the first time, they have escape attempts. Why the last survivior has to be an exception?
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I'm talking about when there's only one Survivor left so self-unhooking is impossible. Changing that would just make Killers more conscious in making sure it doesn't make difference.
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Except, if you are the last survivor in the trial by any means, and you are on the hook - yes, the killer is entitled to the sacrifice.
Much like if you're teabagging at the exit gate, but not out of the match yet, you are entitled to the escape.
Deal with it. 😎
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Hey, we already established that no one is entitled to anything in this game. :P
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Okay hold on if you read my comment in the first point i make i say that we have a TON of perks to yeet yourself off the hook slippery meat delivence stuff to increase luck thus increasing the percentage to yeet yourself off the hook
And another thing the scales in my opinion the scales are not tipped at all if anything i believe that taking away another survivors right to rescue you from a hook but to just yeet yourself off the hook would just take away a core gameplay element.
Also we would have sooo meny campers if you could do that like i would stop playing if that happend.
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Yeah, but why is the last hook different from others at all?
And yes, it would make a difference, even if they are conscius
- Killer can be potato and miss you
- You can run DS (but it should be nerfed to not work as last survivior)
- You can Dead Hard/Sprint Burst to the exit
- If you get caught, killer gets bonus sacrifice and a BBQ stack.
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The circumstances needed to make such a thing matter are infrequent/specific enough that it would not be worth it to implement in exchange for all the times where it would amount to nothing more than a waste of time.
At best, just give the last Survivor full struggle points automatically unless it would have normally been their death hook.
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Ok, so there are things that people are entitled to. Killers weapon is entitled to deal damage if it hits the survivior, survivior is entitled to complete the gen when its at 100%, killer is entitled to hooking a survivior once hooking animation ends, survivior is entitled to hook attempts on first hook, ... Etc. Are we doing some silly game now? Do you even know what "entitled" means? You dont see a difference between game mechanics and denying survivior hook escape attempts because killer is "entitled" to kill him?
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"survivior is entitled to hook attempts on first hook"
Not if they're the last Survivor in the trial. ;)
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No he isnt. Last hook is and shoud be the same as every hook.
And no, surviviors at gate are not entitled to escape, if they ######### up and stop too far from the blockade then killer can pick them up.
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