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What do you do to help the "other side"?

We all talk about "punishing the other side", but we never talk about what we do to help the other.

XBOX btw

As killer (Rank 1, Trapper and GF mains): I don't tunnel, camp, I don't bring NOED nor Ruin (not even old Ruin), I let 1 guy go if I owned the team, if 1 guy DCs I leave one gen to be repaired chase free for the 3 remaining suvs, if 2 DC it's a farm game now. I mori ONLY instead of death hook if I bring in an Ebony Memento mori.

As surv (Rank 1, Bill, Dwelf and Kate mains: I don't bring in an item if I see 2+ toolboxes, I tend to bring in balanced map offerings for the killer not to get Yamaoka or Rottenfields, me and my susual SWF go "easy mode" when we notice it's a low rank (green, yellow or grey) going against us, even let him farm at the end or give him/her 2 free late game kills cause of the EGC if he wasn't camping or tunneling if he ever got us. I never bring in keys.

Comments

  • Jholla31
    Jholla31 Member Posts: 253

    When I play killer I do my best not to go after the person that just got unhooked. If I happen to run into them again or can't find their unhooker, I'll slug them with no intention of returning (basically giving them a chance to reset, but at the expense of a teammate helping them). If I go against an exceptional survivor that isn't toxic, I'll make sure to let that one live. Looping irritates a lot of killers for some dumb reason, but if I'm getting looped and they make some good plays/reads, I love it.

    As survivor I like bringing Azarov's or MacMillan offerings because I think they're the most balanced for both sides, except for Blood Lodge, of course. If a killer had a particularly rough game (less than 5 hooks and nobody dies), I'll sacrifice myself at the end. I don't teabag or point or anything toxic unless the killer has major tunnel vision. Then it becomes a game of "well, let's see if I can tilt him into chasing me for all five gens." Then when I know the gates are ready, I'll let him kill me while the other 3 escape. If he wanted me so bad, he must be happy I died, right? lol

  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,323

    It's not really specifically to help the other side, but I don't really go out of my way to bring other items than cheap flashlights/medkits/maps for points and totems, and I don't really ever use moris. I just find most of the items either silly (keys) or just sorta boring.

    I don't really go out of my way to camp/tunnel or spam super strong loops either. Because again I personally find it boring and I'd honestly rather lose and do something I find interesting. I enjoy chasing, outplaying and getting outplayed more than anything, and I don't really get much of that if I just camp someone to death or vault the ironworks window 3 times at the start of every chase that happens near it.

    I let people go if I feel like it as well, and if I'm the last alive and the killer closes the hatch I often just spam a locker or something and nod at them when they come over. Now with all the challenges I will happily let a killer kill me in any way they want at the end of the game if I finished a challenge that match.

    I guess I'm overall fairly "casual" as I don't care too much about end results like how many people I kill or if I escape, and I also barely consider anything "toxic" (if someone doesn't go full rage monster in postgame chat, anything goes in my eyes). So my mindset is probably pretty foreign to a lot of players 😄

  • Warlock_2020
    Warlock_2020 Member Posts: 1,867

    If I am running survivor and I see the killer is struggling, I'll often make sure they get a chase with me and get the kill. Furthermore, if I can tell they are trying to achieve something and not being toxic about it, I usually try to help out. Like the killer who keeps trying to bring us to the basement; he's possibly trying to work on the tome achievement, so I'll run there during the chase to make sure they get it.

    As a killer, I usually let the last person go, unless they were toxic or clearly hid the whole time. I will usually wait until someone finishes searching the box before I hit them....not sure why, but eh. If you are unhooked in front of me, I'm not going to rehook you. If I down you, I'm going after the butthead who unhooked you before I could leave.

  • TheRockstarKnight
    TheRockstarKnight Member Posts: 2,171

    If I'm a Survivor and the Killer gets a late game DC that should have been a kill or has a bad game I'll let them kill me.

    If I'm a Killer I almost always let someone go and if someone gets downed by hitboxes, a bug, or garbage teammates throwing them under the bus I'll usually get them up off the ground by spamming pick up and drop.

    But I do that cuz I usually like being nice, not because I feel like I owe them anything.

  • fleshbox
    fleshbox Member Posts: 494

    I dont bring BT or DS.

    Ever.

    I have thrown myself on the hook at times when 2 DC and i have enough points to safety pip.

    I tell non hatchet throwing monsters to use hatchets.

    I tell non trap setting trappers to set more traps.

  • Katzengott
    Katzengott Member Posts: 1,210
    edited February 2020

    Never took any items nor offerings (and if, just for BPs) into a trial. Don't use any Exaustion or Meta Perks by 90%. And as i'm on console, i might sacrifice myself to a good Nurse or Huntress.


    My Huntress or Pig never brings NOED, Blood Warden can be more fun. Mostly i don't bring any addons nor offerings (and if, just for BPs). Mostly the unhooker will get my aggro. Free Hatch or Escapes depends how they played and if i actually want to pip. Can be the weak link, because it's a cute Feng or Dwight - or i do some "extra" chases with a solid Looper for practise and then let them go.


    One thing with the "free Hatch" i noticed is: Killers do much more good things for survivors then the other way. In 2-3 years i only remember 5-10 surviors sacrificying "in respect" to my "skills" compared to the >500 free hatches i gave them.

  • Cronk
    Cronk Member Posts: 283

    Helping other side is against the rules

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Oh so you're my potato solo teammate that sneaks around in the corner while the killer camps me.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Sabotaging your teammates is against the rules, actually. That has nothing to do with helping the other side.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    It's easier for people to connect with the "victim" emotionally, in case you were wondering why this occurs.

  • Cronk
    Cronk Member Posts: 283

    What are you talking about I say helping other side is against rules you say random nothings. Farming is bannable.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Farming isn't bannable is what I remember the devs saying.

  • NullEXE
    NullEXE Member Posts: 1,632

    I don't use Key's. Honestly the idea of abusing the free win mechanic makes me feel dirty and toxic.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,347

    If I see the killer is really struggling and they didn't camp or tunnel, then I may let them hook or even kill me at the end of the match.

    As killer, if I see keep running into one survivor, I'll often give them a lot of second chances in case they're low rank or just having an unlucky match.

  • fleshbox
    fleshbox Member Posts: 494

    I am getting better. I am not found first anymore unlike before. I ditched urban. But i wont use ds or bt and will do saves when they are safe and not within 2 seconds of the killer leaving. I run we will make it more so i can heal faster. I am not that bad. I am not a potatoe.

  • Cronk
    Cronk Member Posts: 283

    Wish that happen for me I just get ######### on when I lose to swf red ranks as green rank

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Though i don't do it for them, i very rarely camp & very rarely tunnel after hooking them.

    Whether that's fine to do or not, i see it generally be disliked, so good for them.

    But i only don't do those cause camping bores me & i like jumping targets, i don't want anyone to feel safe for the entire match.

  • Dicklaycia
    Dicklaycia Member Posts: 147

    The only thing I feel personally against using against a Killer to help them would be keys. I never bring them and if I find them in a chest, I leave them behind.

  • ASAPTurtle
    ASAPTurtle Member Posts: 968

    I usually don't bring in anything when I start a match besides perks.

    I'm also not a non-meta-slave. Mainly for survivor. I use Q&Q, Iron Will, Resilience, and either SB, or Lithe most of the time.

  • TheDiz
    TheDiz Member Posts: 243

    I use to play like that until I started encountering the toxic SWF flashlight, teabagging, body blocking even when your just farming "ez" crap talking teams so damn often and super sweaty even though half the team DC on first down killer mains. The toxic community has lead me to be less forgiving. I still give last survivor hatch if they weren't toxic SWF and only mori on death hook.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Iron Will and an Exhaustion perk = 2 meta perks = filthy repetitive meta build

    Nice build mate

  • Joelwino
    Joelwino Member Posts: 550

    I used to let survivors go if I caught them being stupid, like self caring in my terror radius behind a tree when I had Nurse's Calling, but now I think that if you punish them for it they learn from their mistakes and won't do it in the future.

  • ASAPTurtle
    ASAPTurtle Member Posts: 968

    Iron Will is a perk that isn't terribly bad to go against. Never seen people rage over it before. And lithe is considered a bad perk to most honestly, and it's not common in red ranks at all.

  • Carlosylu
    Carlosylu Member Posts: 2,948

    What do you mean by "punish"? I just down them, they're getting that for being dumb, I don't hook them though

  • hex_genrush
    hex_genrush Member Posts: 736

    Everyone liked that

  • GhostofYharnam
    GhostofYharnam Member Posts: 597

    I show no mercy. I've reached my limit. I do what must be done. If im killer i kill them all if im.survivor and ecit gates are powered and everyone is safe i leave immediately.

  • TheMonadoBoi
    TheMonadoBoi Member Posts: 346

    I never use keys or moris, I never tbag or emote a killer and if the last surv doesn't wiggle I let them take hatch/open the exit gates.

  • I am the same way, I've tried playing nice but I keep getting spit in my eye, not doing it anymore.

    Survivors will use literally everything they can to win, killers should do the same, and we should all just be respectful in post game chat or just move on. That is the game ideally.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    I don't insult them.

    Does that count?

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,999

    95% of the time I let the last guy have the hatch or door always have done that and always will

  • GhostofYharnam
    GhostofYharnam Member Posts: 597

    Exactly so many times ive been nice and survivors will be like noob killer ez gg or killer will tunnel and facecamp into the dirt

  • ThisGuuy83
    ThisGuuy83 Member Posts: 1,303

    As killer, nothing now. I think behavior has helped survivors more then plenty.

  • Mastergee
    Mastergee Member Posts: 6

    Nothing. I'm a killer main and why I should help the survivors. When I could take the win myself.

  • ClickyClicky
    ClickyClicky Member Posts: 3,536

    As survivor I don’t bring in any items.

    As killer I don’t tunnel unless you’re toxic. I also punish survivors that troll/sandbag or hide in bushes rather than contributing to gens.

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    edited February 2020

    As killer, if I have enough pressure, the unhooked survivor is invisible to me. Even if unhooked in my face. I don't run Ruin or NOED, unless I'm Memerface in which case I'll use NOED to look scary. However, whoever I just hit with NOED gets carried to the totem to break it.


    If I'm facing baby survivors and I'm curb stomping them, I will purposely face their direction when picking a survivor up so they can get a flashlight save. Last but not least, if the last survivor wasn't toxic and doesn't wiggle when I pick them up, buckle up, you're riding the Hatch Express.


    As survivor, if I'm facing a noob killer, I'll stop playing optimally and be more chill. I'll let them succeed at a mindgame or two. I won't use god loops against them. Sometimes if I feel really bad for them, I'll point at a hook and give 'em a kill.


    Generally I like to give the killer hits on my way out the door. I'll wait there and point at the exit to tell the killer to smack me twice. If they leave me there I'll just leave.

  • Fumbipedia
    Fumbipedia Member Posts: 15
    edited February 2020

    As survivor I never bring items or any offering that's not bp bonus and usually go for chests/totems before doing a gen. i mostly run perks like wglf, iron will and something off-meta only if I've been tunneled a lot I bring ds. I'll only commit to gens if the killer plays like a dick.

    As killer I don't tunnel unless the run I to me. if that happens I slug and let them go. I never bring add-ons because I think killer is too easy with add-ons and I don't bring offerings except for bp ones.