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OK, the DC bans need to go, its a part of any online game
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Stop being so melodramatic lol
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You make no sense. Try civilization...
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That’s not true lol rainbow 6,battlefront 1&2,call of duty,red dead online,killing floor 2 just to name a few lol I’m not against dc penaltys but to say it’s in pretty much every game is simply not true
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Oh no 15minutes!!!!!!!! The horror!
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"DCs are a part of any online game"
In the sense that we need internet which can fail yes, in the sense of intentional DCing? nope, wrong.
"we havent had them since 2016 we dont need them now."
Wrong
"its just silly. if you want to DC you paid for the game do what you like."
Sooo cheating is ok as well? and threatning someone with death? you bought it so you have full freedom now? nope sorry wrong again.
"if you want out of that match and want to go to a new one that is your right. you should not be penalized."
"Your right" lol... so very wrong, but if you want to go you can, nobody is stopping you, you are just going to have to suffer the consequences.
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Adapt
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Hell yeah, while at it, lets ban every survivor that tbags and does ClickyClicky cuz it is toxic af! Equal treatment to everyone!
That quote is ridiculous. And the lulz would reduce if survivors finally learned to punish bad killer behavior. You can pickup slugged survivors and go on, if the killer camps slugs or hooks rush gens. It is really that ez. Just hang in there for your team, wasting the killers time and flame him to hell in post game chat if it helps you. Ragequit never was the solution and awards the killer. And if you really face this situation SO often (which I really cannot confirm) then you should maybe run anti slug builds
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Don't forget the guy that got banned for something like 650 days on Gears 5!
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It was referring to killers that slug everyone. There is nobody to pick you up at that point.
Unbreakable is a one time use. I'm bringing it now, however its funny when killers say bring it, genrush, run ds for tunneling, run BT for camping etc etc yet then they rush onto the forums to plead for nerfs to all of these lol. Nerf BT! Nerf DS! Nerf Unbreakable! nerf genrush!
Perhaps now you understand why all of those perks exist and why they're so strong.
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You're right, OP. DC bans have been a part of games since DCing became an issue. So why get rid of them because you're too sore of a loser to stay in the game when things don't go your way.
Your happiness is so much more important than the four other people in the game you would abandon.
Sounds to me like someone is habitual quitter andhas starting hitting the hours mark in the ban scaling.
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Ok, assuming I'm killer main? I'm 50/50 and currently more like 70% survivor. That's why I said I can't confirm the slugging happens very often. Would be easy to say if I just play non slugging killer... Letting 4 people bleed out I have actually never seen at all.
As you didn't comment on my first sentence I guess you agree to ban tbaggin?
I really don't see many complains about BT or if I see they are not really well thought, and I can't remember to see any complains about Unbreakable. Regarding DS, this is abusable and there are already good ideas to tweak it without losing its main purpose. And for gen rushing, this is difficult to address, also regarding the "do gens on campers". But with the trial warmup we have finally a good idea that would fit in perfectly for all situations.
Btw if the killer does not explicitly run a sluggin build, it is not that hard to counter a 4 man slugging. It is normally survivors fault when this happens, like getting downed all in one place, so "guarding" the slugs is easy. You don't even need perks against this slugging.
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I don't tbag actually and my username is ironic. I never use flashlights.
You don't see requests for nerfs? are we reading the same forum? every other post is about one of those perks being nerfed or "genrush".
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You do realize if there's a certain amount of maximum time, then it's not really being held hostage, right? Devs even addressed this iirc.
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It's not fun nor good game design though. Just because it's allowed doesn't make it good.
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That statement applies to a lot of things on BOTH sides...
Survivors hiding in locker with DS, teabagging, abusing a near infinite loop
Killers camping, tunneling, slugging everyone at 5 gens left
If you choose to get rid of one thing because people don’t like it that’s a slippery slope
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I just hate being punished because of that stupid loading screen glitch. It's happened twice in 5 days and I have a 15 minute timer for something I have no control over.
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They should be addressed lol
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Also remember "no good reason to dc"
https://clips.twitch.tv/BusyCloudyOrangeBabyRage
Should have seen them in game. After they got caught they were pretending to run at normal speed, but slightly boosting forward dead hard style when near a pallet/vault multiple times per chase. 100% luck on kobe and self-cares in about 5 seconds 😂
I've had players like these from time to time. They try to hide their hacks but when you have so many hours on the game you KNOW how fast characters should run and you know when something feels off and it isn't lag. They're always a little ahead. If tru3 wasn't using Wraith he wouldn't have caught them off guard like this.
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Still no reason to DC. Report them, they get banned, won't happen again for some time.
Regarding my comment, I never said you do tbag. But if you want "toxic" campers being a valid reason to DC, the same should apply to tbaggin survivors. As @johnmwarner said, there is always two sides. And I'm pretty sure, if killers DC on tbaggin survivors, you would be laughing, despite your own DC ruleset on toxic killers
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I didn't say toxic campers or tbaggers are a reason to disconnect, thats a little different to all 4 being intetionally left to bleed out.
I do think toxicity in general needs to be addressed though.
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Ok so you keep bringing a single situation as argument I have never seen before and I highly doubt that you encounter regularly, like at least once a week, and want to justify DC or remove the penalty for that one super rare thing and let go all of the other dumba** DCs the whole community needs to deal with?
In a post before you wrote "Let me be toxic and get away with it". I could bring this up to your POV now as that's pretty much what you request here
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DC punishment have also been a thing in games since Christ was a baby, and I also bought the game and have the reasonable expectation to be able to enjoy my experience without crybabies rage quitting.
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Yeah i totally agree man! I laso think that BHVR shoud remove bans for hacks usage. Cmon devs, it's 2020, cheating happens and it's part of any online game!
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I would like to point out that League of Legends has DC penalties across all of its game modes, ranked or not.
In a 5-player game, if people disconnect on average once every 5 games, then statistically you will get few games without at least one DC. It's worse the more players there are: so for LoL if player disconnect 1 every 10 games, you're looking at one DC per game (not always, just very often).
For quality matches, ranked or not, you really want your DC rate to be very low.
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We only use DC rate against a Killer as one indicator. We have never changed a Killer just because the DC rate was high.
In Legion's case, the DC rate was in fact quite high. But when we looked at the reason people didn't seem to like playing against them, we agreed with that reasoning and made changes.
So if suddenly we had tons of DC against a Killer that's not in a bad spot, we'd let the DC penalty system take care of it.
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There's something called terms and conditions which you agreed to. So you gotta deal with it 🤷♂️
All these people here complaining about DCing and slugging. Sorry but it's part of the game. Don't like being slugged? Unbreakable or no mither. Don't wanna be punished because you can't DC? Get ######### good. The only reason why I'm for the DC penalties is simply because it'll teach killers that it's ok to lose and get better, and it puts survivors entitlement in check and forces y'all to get good against the killer.
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Thanks for this @Almo but I would like to point out there are legitimate issues in the game that cause people to DC without them doing it intentionally. there are times that dbd will just crash when loading into a mach, the only way to fix this is to task manager it and restart, this causes a dc penalty. this has happened to me several times in a row and i had played for a few hours. after about 4 dc's into a match like this it ran fine till i was done 2 hours later (this shows it was something other than my pc causing this). Also I have seen it where dbd just dies while in a match, thus causing a DC. I've seen it where the survivor or killer are caught in the geometry and they have to DC to even quit the game or it's infinite. Please make a way to appeal these types of dc penalties so that there is atleast a way to clear the slate of legitimate reasons of Disconnecting. I agree we needed the DC penalties but pure draconian accounting is causing problems. I am glad they are in and staying, I am also glad you are not telling us how many dc ticks we have to get how many minutes out of game. Further I am glad you are not telling us when or the rate at which one tick is removed.
So I think you all for working on this, and I know you work on multiple things at any one time so I understand things aren't insta outs but please take the feedback and allow appeals in certain instances.
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League also has a reconnect feature. So if the game crashes or your internet goes out briefly you can rejoin without being punished.
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But nothing is addressed with Legion. People still hate him. He's just really poorly designed.
If I play him for a daily people now give up on 1st hook.
I actually think he was less boring before.
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It’s different to who, you? Leaving four people to bleed out is within the game rules. That doesn’t make it “right,” but it’s within the rules. If you are going to punish people for something with the rules where does the line stop?
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League games also take longer on average, so you can hop back in. Even a one minute absence from a game of DBD can have a pretty significant impact.
You’re on your way to unhook someone as a second person is being chased. All of a sudden you DC, that person goes down and now one survivor is left for the killer to go after. By the time you reconnect they’re all dead.
Then do you have a chance at hatch, that seems pretty unfair and even abusable.
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I don't get what's so hard to comprehend about it.
"(insert mechanic) isn't fun and is used to be toxic. It needs a solution"
Is it wrong to wrong the game to be more fun? it's not against the rules no but it doesn't make it right and something should be done to fix it. That's on the devs to figure out but they just seem to want to leave the community to it when it comes to being toxic.
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With what is happening in the game. I'd put this back down to a 3-4 minute and remove the stacking thing. This is a party game, can I get a woot woot in the chat y'all!
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you cant compare dbd with league they have so mutch bigger player base
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Given all the issues DBD tbh I preferred it when everyone could just DC, it didn't really spoil the match for me and I didn't give a *** honestly.
Most people don't feel that way though, which is fine, so I get the need for it. I still think it's bad overall though personally, given the state of the game, but it is what it is. I don't DC enough to really be affected by it much, though I had some infinite loads and rank update error and it punished me for 2/3 of them which is stupid as hell imo.
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Yep, and a lot of streamers abused the DC system, as well as some survivors.
They figured this out when the DCed a lot against old Legion, and BHVR said some thing along the lines of due to the amount of DCing, they will look into the killer.
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Those who play the game casually can have a few games, d/c the one they don't like and turn it off until tomorrow.
Those who play a lot are more likely to be hit by those kind of game errors day after day if they play multiple hours and they will get the rolling penalty.
It actually punishes people that play the game more.
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i aheee there are toxic players and things, but all of the toxic things need addressed together or not at all.
You address slugging, camping, tunneling, teabagging, clicky clicky flashlight, and sabotage hook build with no mither and breakout all at once.
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Yes. They need to address the reasons why the community has become so full of salty ragequits. If they leave it as it is then disconnects just become hook suicides or killers going afk.
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If you are dcing from games because you're not having fun - so much to the point that you are getting 20 minute or more bans. Then i'm sorry to say, but check your addiction and move onto another game. That's a suggestion in regards to your own health.
Like I don't get why these people are even still playing if they hate the game THAT much.
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absolutely not,even if you don't like how the game is going, we are talking about 10 minutes long game (at the most), it's oerfectly bearable.
Disconnecting and spoiling the game experience to everyone just because someone is too entitled to face a lose is absolutely wrong and as such should be punished.
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Nobody should even remotely compare any game company to League of Legends. I'd list out a bunch of things that league of legends is not. This is a video game that isn't close to that Genre of game.
Half the people treat this game like it is a competitive game where money is being exchanged over wagers, and all bets are on. SO the person that leaves the match is an awful person. News flash.. This... is a .. VIDEO GAME. Not a professional E sport game. Yes, the community is divided now, more than EVER.
The basisis to these DC's coming in was changes that DISRUPTED the game and spiked this increase. I don't know what they are doing behind the scenes, but whatever it is. i hope they look at what happened in 2018 to cause this up-tick in rage quits. Im going to say that this would put down the roadmap as to what they need to fix and QUICKLY. before they dont have a game left.
Remember. EVERYONE is a PAYING CUSTOMER and DLC has to be sold in order for this game to make money and stay going. I dont think putting people at the back of the line, longer and longer. after a "ragequit" is going to solve anything.
Just look at these q times. They are TERRIBLE after the change.
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The DC penalty solves more problems then it causes and because of that it is here to stay.
If a mass survivor suicide were to happen in every game, the statistics would reflect that and the devs would act accordingly but as far as I can see this isn't happening.
The games I've had, barely anyone DC's anymore and I've only had a couple suicides so mostly it's been positive. And I've not crashed once but I'm on ps4 so I can't speak for other platforms.
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This is what I don’t understand either, people who are finding reasons to say that half of their games are so unfun they have to DC, WHY are you still playing this game?
If I play any video game, board game, card game, sport, and half of the games are unfun guess where... I would find a new game.
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It's the pattern in these forums, go back and look at any change and you'll come across some form of a backlash but eventually it dies down.
I'd say once the ptb is out and that takes everyone's attention, the DC penalties will no longer be an issue.
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I think DC'ing should be allowed as a form of expression. However, I think when a survivor DCs, the survivors should have 1 less gen to complete and the killer should get a sacrifice for it rather than quitter bonus. When a killer DCs, survivors should get their items/offerings refunded and whatever points they earned up to the DC.
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No. If you want to play a solo player game where your rage doesn’t affect others then that’s your right. But ruining the experience of 4 other people is not your right.
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When 2 survivors dc they get a 5 minute time out.
The 2 survivors left in the game get utterly shafted and it could be equally as long if not longer before they get into a new game.
This stupid system punishes the innocent more than the guilty.
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A 1 on 1 fighter is in no way comparable to DBD. Theres no room for toxicity or trolling in there and the games are over in a very short time. Theres no crashing, no gamebreaking bugs, nobody holding the game hostage etc
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