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Survivor dc'd and then reported me

A 2k hour survivor decided to DC on me when I was about to hook him, that would of been the end of the story but he was clearly a twitch streamer and even had it in his name so I decided to go on his stream after the game. That's when I saw when he dc'd he also reported me for tunneling under unsportsmanlike. I then went on his stream telling him I didn't do anything bannable and he has the nerve when rage quiting and then mis reporting can be. His response was that in his 2k hours he has never gotten banned for false reporting someone. Is this allowed? Can I show or report someone who DC's in a match and misreports and admits to false reporting and never being banned? They're a streamer so they recorded the gameplay themselves.

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  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314
    edited February 2020

    @Ace_trainerJosh

    Usually in a conversation that's in a negative light, it's best to censor names and not give direct links to anyone who's responsible for this, since they could be harassed even if you didn't intend for that to happen.

    If the conversation is like, a meme or positive, than that's different. But in this case, I wouldn't really tell anyone in this post about who the streamer was and anything associated with that.

    as for false reporting itself...

    The Game Rules don't explicitly state anything about False Reporting being a bannable or warnable offence. False Reporting or reporting something that isn't bannable is ignored anyways, so the streamer reporting you for tunneling isn't really going to be read and/or taken seriously by the support team, since even the game rules state that tunneling itself is not a bannable offence.

    In-general, i'd just ignore it and move on. You didn't do anything wrong and you know this, so it's more effort to get worked up over it than it's actually worth to be honest. I suppose if you want to nitpick it though, this can be seen as "intimidation" under the Harassment section in the Game Rules, but that's a big stretch to be honest. So like I said, it's best to just ignore this and move on.

    Besides, when the Streamer DC'ed, they actually got a cool-down penalty from the new DC Penalty System, so they could've gotten a 5 minute cool-down because of that or more depending on if they regularly DC.

    One last addition I forgot to add...

    False Support Tickets and False In-game Reports are not the same thing, so I wanted to clear that up in-case you see that in the Game Rules post.

    Lying to the Support team about crucial details or submitting false support tickets could have the following penalties occur. "Penalties include suspension of your support services, up to a permanent ban of your in-game account." This can all be found in the Game Rules link below.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest

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  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    False reporting is a bannable offence, but not a reportable one. If this person makes a habit of abusing the report system by reporting people for things that aren't actually bannable, he will be dealt with directly by the Support team. You don't need to do anything about it.

    Rest assured though, his report will do absolutely nothing, since he didn't have any evidence to back up his claim and tunneling isn't a bannable offence anyway.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    Where does it state that false reporting is bannable?

    I didn't see that anywhere in the Game Rules, unless I wasn't paying attention.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    You must have, because you quoted it. "Penalties include suspension of your support services, up to a permanent ban of your in-game account."

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    This was for False Support Tickets, which is different from In-Game Reports.

    The entire part that mentions this is strictly about Support Services. If it also meant In-Game Reports than it would've mentioned it.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    How different, though? It said it includes false Support Tickets, but both of them go to the same team if I'm not mistaken, so although you're correct in that it's not 100% confirmed, I think it would be a reasonable assumption to make that the same applies to in-game reports.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314
    edited February 2020

    I wouldn't really find interpretation in something like that Fibijean...

    If it doesn't explicitly state that false in-game reports are bannable, than it isn't bannable. Why would it be bannable anyways? A False report is just ignored all the same, since saying someone tunneled for example is clearly not a bannable offence, so as a result it's ignored.

    A Support ticket is very different, you can manipulate what you say to gain an advantage in the ticket itself, which is why it's taken very seriously when people make false support tickets and actively lie to the support team in them. An in-game report is more disposable, it's very limiting in what it can say and can easily be reviewed to confirm if it's true or not. If someone reports you for tunneling, and knows it's not bannable, than what's the point anyways? It'll just be ignored and the only one who wasted their time was the false reporter.

    It doesn't say anywhere that a false in-game report is bannable or warnable, so why would it be interpreted as otherwise? Yes, they're handled by the same team, but they're two completely different systems that're managed in separate ways. If it is bannable, it should say that at least. But it doesn't, so it's not as far as I or anyone else is concerned.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    Bit late, but I found the place where I heard that false in-game reports are bannable. It's not in the Game Rules, but it is in the EULA that we all signed, under "Rules of Conduct".

    "While participating in the Game, you also agree to comply with certain rules of conduct that govern your use of the Game (“Rules of Conduct”), for example you may not... Improperly use web support or complaint buttons or make false reports to BHVR staff."

    "BHVR reserves the right to terminate this EULA and to prevent your use of any and all BHVR Services if your Access is used to engage in illegal activity, violates these rules of conduct, or otherwise any BHVR Terms."

    In other words, BHVR can ban you from playing the game if you misuse the report function in-game ("complaint buttons") or make false reports in general.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    Lets be honest, not everyone will know that by reading the EULA alone, since like 95% of players just brush it aside.

    It should be in the Game Rules if it's a bannable offense, but perhaps it's there under different wording...

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    It probably should be included in the Game Rules, but also even though realistically most people don't read the EULA, they've officially stated that they have, and are therefore bound by its terms. Point is, if the devs wanted to ban someone for abusing the report system, they would be completely within their rights to do so under that agreement, and players ought to be aware of that.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    Yes, they should be aware of that, but from a realistic stand-point... not many players in the community itself even know about this rule because it's hidden behind something that a lot of players just brush past.

    They're within their right to do so yes, but knowing this is a rule is a bit niche in itself. Common sense would tell you that abusing a report system could get you banned, but to confirm this would require you to dig through the EULA itself, which not many players would instantly think to go and do.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    That's why I did it for them, and now it's confirmed.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314
    edited March 2020

    For the OP yes, for anyone else who might wonder would have to find this question themselves...

    And who knows when that'll be, weeks? months? years? What i'm talking about is general knowledge about this for players Fibijean, for them and the OP as well. Whether they add it to the rules is up to them, but I just find it odd that it isn't there.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    I already agreed with you that it should be in the rules, I honestly don't know why we're still discussing this. The only reason I came back and posted here was to let OP and anyone else who finds this question know that that's a rule, because it was relevant to my earlier comments on the thread, that's all. It doesn't need to be discussed any further than that.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    I'll make sure to read your comments multiple times than to assure that doesn't happen again.

    I was 100% sure you didn't say that at all, but whatever it doesn't really matter. Thanks for finding that information, bye.