Power Role
Who will win? Though there are always exceptions and personal opinions that may differ from the list (mine included), I've noticed this to be the general balance of power for MOST games.
1. Good Nurse/Billy
2. Good Spirit/Good Survivors (Tie)
3. Good Killer (Except above mentions)
4. Par Killer/Par Survivors (tie)
5. Bad Killer
6. Bad survivors
A few notes:
One Good Survivor mixed into a team of Par Survivors can (Possibly) move the team into Category 3.5 Because a Par Killer (Category 4) will likely not know when to abandon chase. Whereas a Good Killer (Category 3) will react properly.
One Good Survivor mixed into a team of bad survivors will (Guranteed) move the team to Category 4 and (Possibly) move the team into Category 3.5
One Par Survivor mixed into a team of bad survivors will (Possibly) move the team into category 4.
It's a bit wordy and mathy. But. It seems fitting I think. For most games. Always exceptions tho.
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TLDR
God Killers Unbeatable in the right hands
Good Survivors > Most Good Killers (Most killer complaints are about this)
Par Killer = Par Survivors
Bad Killer > Bad Survivors (Most survivor complaints are about this)
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as a killer, even the strongest killers, you have to rely on survivors making mistakes for you to win. If you mess up a couple of blinks as nurse or do not predict accurately enough with spirit, you will lose against a team of good survivors. You have to play flawlessly or near flawlessly as a killer, and as a survivor you don't really need to play flawlessly since you can also run a plethora of second chance perks to make up for your mistakes.
Killer perk idea: Dead lunge. Every 40 seconds the killer can initiate a lunge with their basic attack that travels up to 3x the distance of a regular lunge.
The power role has always been and always will be the survivor. If you die as a survivor it's one of three things: The killer tunneled you, you made a mistake, your team mates are bad. A good killer is just someone who will capitalize the most from survivor mistakes. If the survivors do not make many mistakes, the killer loses.
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Correct. Which is reflected in the original post. Good survivors being above good killers (less survivor mistakes). Bad killers being above bad survivors (more survivor mistakes).
With the exception of Top Tier killers who can (if played flawlessly) be un-counterable by survivors.
You basically just reworded the post lol.
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except that im saying good survivors are better than good nurses / billies / spirits
in fact, when this game came out, there was a little bit of an Esports following, and people were able to consistently beat old nurse, as she was the strongest pick back then for killer. The esports thing fizzled out mostly because of how ridiculously unbalanced this game is.
taken to the highest level, survivors can just draw the killer to a corner of the map, maximizing the distance between the nearest hooks.
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again, I have to ask, what constitutes a win?
A relaxed game with 2 escapes and 2 hooks is better then a sweaty 4k
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I'm saying in your original response you said
If you mess up a couple of blinks as nurse or do not predict accurately enough with spirit, you will lose against a team of good survivors.
The reason they rank so high is because the power is up to the killer players skill to not make mistakes (for nurse). And even then, she will lose some games.
I put survivors and spirit as tied. Because they can both mindgame. It's a matter of luck who actually mindgamed who at that point.
Next is survivors who have the same deal. If they don't mess up. They beat every other killer.
Personally I agree that billy isn't an issue. He can be looped like anyone else. I only put him there due to popular opinion. Personally I'd put him in the category with all other killers.
I guess what I'm saying is. In a team of good survivors. A good Nurse and Spirit are the only two with a CHANCE. The results are never guranteed.
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That may be a mistake on my wording. Winning is subjective. The list is a list of who has the most power/ability to perform. When I made this, I constituted a "win" as 3+ escapes/kills for survivor/killer respectively and a tie as 2 kills 2 escapes.
For instance. Category 2 survivors vs a category 3 killer will likely result in a 3 escape 1 kill scenario. Roughly. Ish.
Again. Subjective. The list was based on power. My mistake for adding "win" into the mix.
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I really dont think that this is entirely true. It depends ofc a lot which killer you play and also on what map you are, but in general, Spirit and Nurse will win, even the best team can not do anything against the best Spirit / Nurse. Been there.
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As you said. Situational. But yes, that's what the tier list says. In the right hands they have the POTENTIAL beat MOST survivors. Always exceptions.
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