Bad decisions from the developers once again with upcoming changes
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What rank are you? In red ranks killers are very competitive so even in big maps its still hard for survivors. Of course sometimes they still get gen rushed too which I understand. But I am not sure how balanced this change is gonna be though. I see your point though
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Thank you for seeing the truth. At least someone has the guts to say the reality of the matter. Honestly I think the devs could put all gens lined up, 200 hooks on the map, eliminate loops and pallets and the killers would still complain about something
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useless complaints already coming heh
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So when killers complain about everything is fine but survivors do and you all lose your minds. Glad to see how salty you are getting about my post. Too bad I don't really care how sore you are about it. Go cry more about my opinion btw
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I’m so glad They finally got around to reworking these maps, I was under the assumption it would take years to finally balance them out. The changes to loop around the Silo on Torment Creek was a surprise, I thought they’d just sill it up instead of open a doorway (by a breakable wall?)and add a pallet.
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I am main survivor rank 1, I have played DBD since 2018, I can tell you that survivors had never been so strong. Nowadays escape is so easy that it was boring. God loops were ow. A lot of survivors just ran close this loops .... Every maps have good loops with those changes you can discover different loops . It will be a new game for survivors. Enjoy it
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Who says that all maps are getting super small? Some are getting "adjusted" and surely not to indoor map size.
Bloodlust is a point if it actually gets balanced that well. The thing is, if you reach bloodlust, you already have lost too much time to be efficient. If you bloodlust in every chase and get a 4k, the survivors simply weren't very efficient.
Your conclusions from this regarding all the OP perks are a bit of a quick shot. I mean, Ruin change was a big one, that allowed some huge speculations. What you are predicting with having seen like 4 screenshots I think noone can really take serious. We should at least, once again, delay all the flaming until PTB is on.
Regarding map size, I can just say that swamp maps were way too big and got addressed a long time ago. They are still both in the upper half regarding map sizes, so I guess they know what they are doing.
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Funny on that one: The biggest map is not part of the resize :P
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Survivors - "They removed my brainless loop and keep the brainless camping"
Shame that it takes brainless survivors to reward camping
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Well it would be boring if all maps now are similar in size dont you think?
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Entitled survivor mains? Yeah, let me read the changes again, because it looks like they've made these changes after hearing entitled killer mains whine like babies about how unfair it is because I don't know...they're not good killers.
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Preach!!!!!!!! 2 thumbs up!!!! Thank you for saying it like it is
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Nope. Different layout is fine like we see on Autohaven maps for example. But size isnt really thrilling me, it's just imbalancing the game. I don't need to see the chase coming in for 20 seconds, before the music starts.
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when they nerf SwF's then talk about nerfing killers. Bring back OG Nurse, OG mori and OG NoED and u could have every survivor nerf back.
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The changes are going to be bad for survivors. All the survivors have are windows, loops and pallets to keep the killer in a chase in order for others to do gens. If you are a good killer you dont need these to be taken away in order to get kills. Its just going to be groundhogs day for survivors. Doesnt matter how good you are, youll get downed by the killer in a short chase.
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You have access to their dumpster fire of a post history - It's best not to even acknowledge them.
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Its always the same with these people. Survivors always need to “git gud”, and I agree that a lot of these loops were too powerful and required no skill.
However at no point do these killers ever need to git gud. Its always a problem with the game if they lose. Thats why they’ll veto any decision that tries to nerf camping or tunneling or NOED. They just want to sit around a hook as Wraith or Ghostface, camp, tunnel one to death, camp/tunnel another and then pick off the last 2 survivors with NOED.
The fact that the devs actually give them veto power is ridiculous. I’ve never seen a game flushed down the toilet like this.
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I 100% agree with you. I think if the game is too unbalanced survivors will just stop playing the game quite honestly and then theyll have to rework things again
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The killer community has dwindled to near extinction. Survivors ques rise above 15-20 minutes.
Steamers-devs-fogwhispers-and longtime players all produce recorded stats proving killers loose 80% of matches
Average game time to escape has fallen below 6minutes
The game is built on survivor mistakes and as the population ages they make significantly less driving killer experience to stressful enough levels that they've almost all quit.
Imagine seeing... two map changes and thinking no survivor is ever going to escape again ???
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regarding bloodlust.
The consequences of having bloodlust when it's not necessary are not as severe as the consequences of not having bloodlust when it IS necessary.
In other words we should air on the side of having it until we are 100% sure we don't need it.
Thus it makes sense to go through all of the maps first and THEN look into removing/nerfing/whatevering bloodlust. Rather than removing bloodlust first or even at the same time as the map reworks.
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1 survivor = 80 seconds / 1.00 = 80 seconds
2 survivor = 80 seconds / 1.80 = 44.44 secs
3 survivor = 80 seconds / 2.40 = 33.33 secs
4 survivor = 80 seconds / 2.80 = 28.57 secs
The proposed repair speed penalty is 15%. This will be tested in tomorrow’s PTB:
1 survivor = 80 seconds / 1.00 = 80 seconds
2 survivor = 80 seconds / 1.70 = 47.05 secs
3 survivor = 80 seconds / 2.10 = 38.09 secs
4 survivor = 80 seconds / 2.20 = 36.36 secs
How often realistic is this change going to affect you ? You three stack every gen do you ? At best you will have 2.5 extra seconds each if you pair up 4 times...
At base game survivors only need 105 seconds of objective each to escape. It's really not that hard to waste that much of the killers time
Yeah they nerfed loops that made survivors literally untouchable for entire matches that's not a buff or a nerf it's a required change and they only did it on two maps...
Quit ur crying
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Just accept the fact that god loops and map sizes weren’t ok and needed to be changed
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Im a rank 1 survivor by my own merits. Not a boosted potato like some people in the game. I am already good. You are the ones who are needing this nerfs because you killers can't git gud. So nice try potato killer. Git gud so you wont need these changes
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man everyone has debunked camping already even the devs. it IS a strategy but a terrible one
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I personally disagree and like the changes they are bringing,respect anyone's opinion regardless tho and everyone should have a right to their own thinking.
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I didn't say we can't remove bloodlust. Just that we need to make SURE that the original problem it was acting as a bandaid for is fixed first.
If the map changes turn out to be a huge success and the all the loops become fair and balanced (the screenshots we've seen so far look great) then I wouldn't be surprised if bloodlust is removed/nerfed.
If however those changes are for whatever reason insufficient, then having bloodlust removed anyways would be terrible.
Ideally everything would be perfect and it would be time to finally remove the bandaid. But it makes sense to make the map changes first to verify that it is actually time, instead of trying to predict it in advance.
Bloodlust being removed in 3.8 wouldn't be that surprising to me.
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Cool but you agree that you are obviously more killer main if you agree with them though
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LMAO are you seriously trying to boast about getting rank 1 as survivor? Do you realise how easy it is to get rank 1 as survivor? any pleb can get rank 1 that's why you see so many boosted survivors at that rank 1, the devs literally had to make it easier to rank up for survivors like 3 times because they complained. You also don't understand sarcasm when you see it.
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I actually play more survivor,the only killers i play of as of now are slinger and oni :F i play at rank 1 and the games can be awful in soloQ,know from experience. What I'm hoping is that they are gonna buff soloQ in some way in the future to compensate with these survivor nerfs while not buffing swf. Swf is just purely broken if everyone runs 2nd chance perks,and just play as efficient as possible.
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I am not a killer main dude and I have made it to rank 1 twice, eventhough I do not play killer that much. How hard is it really to be a good killer?
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I agree although I dont think it will be balanced enough. People think about it but when we play its gonna be a different story.
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Nice of you to incorrectly assume that I'm a little kid, please keep making yourself look stupid! At this point it's free entertainment for me ☕🐸
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Yes, just like killers that use Ebony Mori and NOED are amazing. Each side got things that are out of whack. However, I don't see survivors complain about trivial things like killers do. It's one thing to complain about a perk, but complain because you are not good enough or willing to adjust and develop better skill to make an environment to your advantage? Just face that you're a bad killer that's too lazy to make adjustments for you to be better. I don't loop, I'm terrible at it, but I do other things to manipulate a situation to my advantage. That's call skill, maybe you killers should take the time to actually develop some.
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Yes, just like NOED and Ebony Mori make killers amazing and good. Both sides got things out of whack. Complaining about a perk is one thing, but complain because you can't make adjustments in your game as a killer to manipulate a situation to your advantage? That just means you're a terrible killer that's not willing to put the work in to get better. I've never seen so many killers whine about trivial things because they're just not good killers. I don't loop, I'm terrible at it. But I do other things to use the environment to my advantage. That's call skill, maybe you should try to work on developing some. Then again, the devs are holding you killer's hands again because you all cry like babies.
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OP, here is a kind advice: Treat people with respect and your threads will stay open. It has been closed due to constant bickering and insults.
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