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Rank 1 Killers: What else?
Matchmaking is broken. We all know this. That is why this question is directed almost exclusively to Killers who are at the top of the ranking system.
What further changes would you like to see to the game and why? I mean this in a positive manner when I say that as someone who plays Killer/Survivor equally these days I cannot imagine what else a Killer could want.
Gen speeds were made longer. Great skill checks were nerfed. Toolboxes were nerfed into oblivion. God loops were finally closed (finally!), maps were made noticeably smaller and improved with Killer movement in mind, dead zones were added in mass to nearly every map. Already Killers dominated the win/loss ratio across each platform. I can only imagine that Survivors are now experiencing an even more crushing degree of loss.
Why have the complaints not slowed in their frequency? Why is the toxicity still sky high, the tunneling and face camping still plaguing most games? What else could the devs possibly do for Killers while still bearing in mind that the game needs Survivors and that Survivors should have fun too?
SWF is not going anywhere, let's not bother with that complaint here. Plenty of other threads for that, it's a tired old tune.
Personally, I've grown tired of playing as Killer. I am a mediocre Killer who makes plenty of mistakes and yet I'm being spoon fed 4ks every game now. I switched to perkless Legion and stopped using my Fury purely because I like the Legion cosmetics and I'm still getting nothing but 4ks. I've started slugging and not hooking people purely to extend games because they were ending too quickly. I cannot imagine this game being made any more easy - I think I'll honestly give up playing as Killer and become a Survivor exclusive if for no other reason than the challenge. At least Survivors statistically win less than half of all rounds, the element of uncertainty in the match outcome is still there.
As always let's be respectful to one another. Thanks!
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You won't really hear logic or reason to people who complain unless they get easy games. That goes for both sides.
But, right now though, I am hearing more complaints of perks and certain Killers being "Boring" rather than Overpowered.
It's like as if they cannot justify that what they are facing is OP anymore so they instead started calling them Boring to go up against.
Personally I've been having fun at Rank 1 as Killer. Even though I am handicapping myself by only playing Low Tier Killers like Plague, Clown and Pig. A lot of my games ended before all generators are done, of course, but a lot of those games also had a ton of Potato survivors in it. Not necessarily the kind of people you expect to see in Rank 1.
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Nespresso?
To be a bit more serious, you should start streaming your perkless non frenzy Legion matches in which you constantly 4k, should make you some ez money because that is not something many people can do.
"if I get a 4k again next round, I ask that you my audience donate a combined 200 dollars to me" wtih a little bar at the top.
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"Already Killers dominated the win/loss ratio across each platform. "
Im going to have to ask you a source for this, not to mention that data will be skewed beyond believe anyway, remember that the DC penalty system is implemented because survivors DC'd like crazy, so yeah that will skew the match data as massive wins for killers, but survivors just dip out if they dont like what hte killer is doing.
My experience is the complete opposite, full meta squad survivors who dont just meme around are hard to deal with as killer but as survivor I have been doing complete perkless and itemless runs with my friends and we do fine playing the last 4 weeks sooo yeah.
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Well complaints overall haven't slowed because of posts like this. You're literally complaining that survivor isn't a cakewalk anymore (it still is)
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"It's like as if they cannot justify that what they are facing is OP anymore so they instead started calling them Boring to go up against." - what do you mean? Who is the 'they'? Survivors or Killers?
That's true about seeing complaints about perks being on the rise as of late, but that is kind of my point. It seems the community cannot be satisfied and so I was asking what it would take to please those red ranking Killers who are still feeling unhappy. I am curious to hear the suggestions and more importantly the why behind them try and get a more clear understanding.
On the contrary the only complaint I made was that I'm bored as Killer. It seems you either misread, misunderstood, or just immediately posted a response as if I was talking about this from a Survivor perspective. Killer is what is boring to me.
Do you play Survivor? Because the game data (you know, factual evidence) has showed that Survivors have been losing more than half of their games for awhile now. Probably a lot more now with recent changes.
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Both sides. People think the combo of DS+Unbreakable is "uncounterable" and is boring to go up against. People think Deathslinger is boring to go up against. Deathslinger. Like come on, he is really weak and only as good as the player playing him. Same with Freddy, but admittedly Freddy is far stronger than Deathslinger. But in terms of chase he is still really only as good as the player playing him.
Just because you find some killers or perks boring doesn't justify them to be nerfed or deleted from the game (which I have seen pop up more and more often lately). There are literally 19 killers in the game right now with a 20th one coming right now. Not all of them will be fun according to your playstyle. Not all of them will be countered the exact same way. There are also literally hundreds of perks with different combos that can seem uncounterable to you, but also perks that are really powerful that you would always take it over anything else, making it appear over and over again. (Which is a problem)
My point is, the community will never be satisfied. Killers will never be satisfied. Survivors will never be satisfied.
Both sides, the vocal players just want easy games. And we know what they say about the loudest voice in a crowd. They tend to not be the brightest.
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I want to say... Thank you.
Thank you for a thoughtful and respectful post. While the message of no one ever being satisfied is incredibly depressing to think about or admit to, I really respect and appreciate the way you delivered your point. I always try so hard to encourage respect and kindness in topics I start and I worry about my wording a lot (English is not my first language) and often am responded to with the typical forum hostility.
This was just so pleasant to read that I needed to say all of this.
You made an excellent point about play styles being a large part of this too and people simply complaining if things don't suit their way of playing. I guess I was just being overly hopeful in thinking that people could be satisfied.
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