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Why do both sides have so many made up rules?
Survivor: no noed, no tunneling, no camping...
Killer: no second chance perks, no gen rushing, no swf...
Why cant we just enjoy the game without making up rules for the opposite side to follow?
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Why are you making a thread that puts focus on those made up rules?
Like you said, just play the game, have fun, so why do you care about it enough to make a thread about it?
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I'd say it's because it's easier to shame someone to a point to prevent them from doing certain things instead of just adapting to things that are a part of the game.
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I basically only have one (self-imposed) rule: don't be an #########. That means not going intentionally out of my way to make someone else miserable, also known as being toxic. I don't: teabag, flashlight spam, taunt, hit survivors on the hook, let survivors bleed out (if I can avoid it), and so on.
However, outside that, I will do anything and everything (except cheating and exploiting) to win (or get as close to it as possible). If I have to leave someone to die, I will. If I have to camp, I will. No amount of made-up rules or attempted shaming will change that.
If everyone were to follow this simple rule and learn to accept the losses, the game would be a better place.
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Play how you want. There are things that are commonly considered to ruin fun for the other side. For instance, camping. So some killers choose not to do it at all. Some only do it at end game. And then you have those who enjoy doing it all game, for whatever reason. It's your choice if you want to play nice, and what exactly nice is. The developer's don't really care, as long as you're not hacking, holding the game hostage, or teaming up with the other side.
So essentially, the survivor's / killer's rule book is yours to write. Some people get mad your book isn't like theirs.
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that's just what good sportsmanship is, lots and lots of little rules that some people innately understand and others need spelled out for them.
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Good sportsmanship doesn't include trying to shame people into playing worse just so you don't lose.
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It's because mutual respect is a foreign concept to people these days, and unless something is stated as a "rule" then people will just ignore it. If people were actually kind to each other, and didn't use these tactics unprovoked, then we wouldn't have a problem.
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if you play in an unkind way and the other side responds unkindly, can you blame them? I don't think any of the 'rules' are mandatory, but if you're bothered when people have a reaction following them does help. i'm sure there are plenty of people on both sides who enjoy when the opposing team is mad by the end, but that's not me. I want everyone to have fun if I can help it.
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It's PvP, not PvE. If you want to play a custom game, that's what KYF is for. So yes, I can absolutely blame them for tossing insults or worse (######### threats, death threats, and so on) in the chat like they're owed anything from the people they're playing against.
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The mentality is "treat others the way you want to be treated" I believe.
So if I don't camp as killer, I don't someone else to do it. If I don't be toxic, I don't want the other side to be toxic.
I think that's why people who only play one side seem to create the most rules I think.
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There are no made up rules. Killers are crybabies, and this forum is especially killer biased. Survivors just argue against a daily level frustration. But nevermind, i dont think players at these forums are able to comprehend the differences.
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You comprehend half of the game if you dont understand killers daily level frustration.
There's babies on both sides and you can immediately tell when someone doesnt understand the other sides point.
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Maybe there are people that cannot accept losing so they need to make up rules in order to justify the loss.
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Who knows. Just ignore it and play as you want.
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Because matchmaking is non-existent, so players with vastly different goals and playstyles are forced together.
So - to use StarCraft as an analogy - all of the, "No rush 15 min, plz, have fun!" players are matched up against the 6-pool aggressive killers.
The result being that some players get upset and start calling everything unfair, insisting that other players should never use them, that trying too hard is a bad thing, and so on.
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Because what people like to call "made up rules" are just the average person's expectation of common courtesy. People expect their opponents to play the objectives of the game (all of them), which were designed to provide a fair, fun, balanced match. When people hyper focus one objective and lack any consideration for their opponent(s), it throws the balance of the game off and makes it less enjoyable. The game is not enjoyable when survivors ignore everything except gens. The game is not enjoyable when killers camp people to death. So the idea that everyone should play how they want AND enjoy the game simply doesn't work when there are people who derive their enjoyment out of the displeasure of others.
The real question is, why can't we all just play the game how it was designed (speaking to the emblem system), and have a little consideration for others, for the enjoyment of all? 🤷
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Those aren't really killer rules. I've never had a killer message me, nor have I messaged a survivor first over using second chance perks, gens, or swf. Wish I could say the same about survivors. I play on console so they can freely message me until I block them. Survivors are the ones who complain the most in my experience. Not trying to flame, just stating what I've witnessed over the 3 years that I've played this game
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I've had killers message me because i dsed them or called me a toxic gen rusher when they let me loop them for the whole game and I've seen people cry about these things on thr fourms.
Same for survivors
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I would agree, survivors complain the most in post-game chat...or I guess in messages on console (I dont play console).
But there are several reasons for this...
- There are 4 survivors to every 1 killer...so survivors are 4x more likely to complain in post game. LOL
- Killers have in-match retribution. If a survivor is toxic, they can get them out of the game to relieve frustration. If a killer is toxic to a survivor, there isn't much a hanging survivor can do except die and voice their frustration post-game.
- Survivors most commonly complain about camping/tunneling, which are play styles that aren't necessary to play or win a game and disable survivors from getting to actually play in the match. While killers most commonly complain about gen rushing...which is the only way survivors can win the game and enables the killer to more easily find survivors/gain destruction points while getting to play the entire duration of the match. Not to mention, several changes have been implemented even quite recently to help address the pain point of "gen rushing" and there has yet to be any changes to the game for camping/tunneling outside of dreaded second chance perks, which only prolong the inevitable in many cases. LOL
I've also found in these forums and in the main PC DBD facebook group that Killers seem to out number survivors...which is weird, since survivors are so vocal in game.
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100% agreed. People need to chill 😆
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I gotta' say, I probably see more outrage about how people have these made up rules than I see people actually whip out these made up rules and use them as an excuse.
That said, though, there's a big difference between someone saying "I don't like ____." and someone saying, "You can't run this, it's the rules." Everyone's free to say what they don't like. It doesn't automatically make it a rule.
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You think as a survivor I want to run DS, Borrowed Time, etc?
Hell no, I want to run Balanced Landing, Self Care, Botany Knowledge and We'll Make It, maybe Poised but I'm not allowed.
As a solo survivor, I'm not allowed to have fun.
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I honestly have more fun playing killer because if I don't want to 4k, I can just mess around with survivors and they can have a good time back. Typically as a killer if I'm playing with an inexperienced group I let them all go. I don't get that chance as a survivor, if I'm paired with inexperienced survivors the killer will take advantage of that and we'd all be dead by the 1st gen done.
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i never heard of survivors having any kind of rules, only for killers. anyway no one respect those.
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As someone who equally plays on both sides. I can say that There will always be Crazy People On either side who think they own People in this game.They feel entitled to think they can dictate others and make up ridiculous rules nobody will follow . Just play how you want don’t follow what others do weather it be A user posting How to be toxic YouTube DBD videos. Or some toxic twitch streamer who acts like their almighty just to gain fans.
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Lol check through my DMs
I get one about camping or tunneling or perks I've used or even what killer
Every.single.game.
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I think it might have something to do with entitlement and wanting to enjoy the game. It's probably fairly simple.
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As killer, there is little survivors do that annoy me, other than 4-man SWF groups that would rather try to bully the killer than just do gens and go. I'd rather get one hook and gens done in 4 minutes than spend 15 minutes being harassed by flashlights and every game mechanic they can squeeze out. Not fun at all.
As survivor, the only thing a killer does that I find annoying is camping from the start of the game, or hardcore tunneling all game. Let me clarify on that. Situational camping or tunneling is not the bother to me. I faced a Doc earlier who suddenly started camping a hook. I figured out he must have seen me nearby as he was hooking the other survivor. So, I left the area and within seconds, he did too. I had one last week that switched to tunneling off the hook after 3 gens were done fast. I don't blame him, he had to slow the game down. Then again, I've had them hardcore camp/tunnel from the very start. Those matches are painfully boring and suck outright for the victim. I find it extremely frustrating to not be able to engage the killer and have some fun. Just holding M1 and leaving is not why I play. (Probably why I play killer 90 percent of the time!)
Do I cry and whine and point fingers after the match? No, just move on.
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People want to have fun in the game. Most of the stuff people complain about is the more sweaty stuff, like moris or full teams of DS, that are strong and make them have less fun. I think that’s all it is, if someone doesn’t enjoy the match for whatever reason they complain that it’s because the other side did X, but unfortunately it’s just the design of PvP games in general that not everyone will have fun every match.
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