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Do jungle gyms still spawn on Gas Heaven?

Nutty_Professor
Nutty_Professor Member Posts: 621
edited May 2020 in General Discussions

I personally only came back from a three month break from the game, so I'm still not familiar with the new map layouts.

I've played a couple of games on Gas Heaven and each time there has been three T and L walls, and a single pallet wall. The second time the bus didn't even Spawn.

Personally I can loop around T and L walls, however bloodlust 3 is a thing.

The first time was a few days ago against a decent Pig, and playing in this match I felt there wasn't nothing I could use to combat this Pig whilst being chased. As with the majority of the chases she was able to get with me bloodlust 3.

The second was last night against a Myers, who fortunately despite being a purple rank he was really bad (He did have Noed). I was able to escape unbroken despite spending the majority of the game being chased and most of the time not having any pallets I could use.

I haven't played on Gas Heaven as killer recently.

So do jungle gyms still spawn on Gas Heaven, or was it just extremely bad RNG?

EDIT: Just before get any comments that "I should try playing killer", I do play killer at red ranks as well.

Comments

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    BL3 takes 45 seconds to get, minimum. Are you saying being chased for (at least) 45 seconds is "nothing"?

  • th3
    th3 Member Posts: 1,845

    sometimes there are very bad spawns for jungle gyms and sometimes very good spawns on that map

  • Nutty_Professor
    Nutty_Professor Member Posts: 621

    BL3? I don't know what you mean, do you mean the shop? I don't like looping around the shop, it feels cheap and boring, I rather use Shack and jungle gyms, where there's mind game potential.

    I personally try to last a lot longer then 45 seconds in a chase. For me if I'm playing well I aim to be chased for at least five minutes before the killer is able to down me (if the killer decides to commit).

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Bloodlust 3.

    Being chased for 5 minutes is not intended and is, in fact, proof of how unbalanced loops are. You're not supposed to be able to 1v1 the killer unless there's a massive difference in skill.

  • PrettyFaceKate
    PrettyFaceKate Member Posts: 1,776

    There's no set up that allows 5 min chases, even without bloodlust. A 5 min chases is only proof of poor gameplay by the killer. Even 45 seconds at a single L/T wall is highly questionable, because a hit should be scored on that tile even before bloodlust kicks in.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Then either OP is lying, or facing killers well below their skill level.

  • Nutty_Professor
    Nutty_Professor Member Posts: 621
    edited May 2020

    I play killer as well I don't think shack and jungle gyms are unbalanced, they're counter able if you play them right and use mind games. The killer shouldn't be chasing strong loopers anyway. If I see a strong looper when I play killer, unless there's four of them I'm going to focus on the weaker survivors.

    I don't just stay at an L and T wall, when the killer guesses wrong with a mind game I use that distance to get to the next tile.

    EDIT:

    I record my games, and time duration of when I'm being chased. Often if the killer doesn't give up on me my chases last over five minutes. if a survivor knows the map well enough, and has good chase route plan then a five minute chase is possible.

    I'm I able to stay alive for five minutes in chases each match, no but my target is still either to make the killer give up on me or to get chased as long as possible.

    Yes, often I do get killers who are below my skill level, but I'm rank 1 it's not my fault (it's not like I'm smurfing or deranking). Often those killers are red ranks.

  • OniWantsYourMacaroni
    OniWantsYourMacaroni Member Posts: 5,944

    Bad RNG.Normally you can find like 2 or 3 jungle gyms on this map.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    The developers disagree. Strong looper or no, loops shouldn't allow you to 1v1 the killer. Why do you think they're being reworked? It's not because they're balanced.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,810

    Why can I never get these spawns lol?

    Believe me, jungle gyms still spawn. And they do a lot of the time. I've had a match before with a FunBus™ and 2 long wall gyms- that was torture.

  • Nutty_Professor
    Nutty_Professor Member Posts: 621

    Thing is I'm often accused of being a killer main on these forums due to some of my killer sided views and I would agree if you were talking about the infinities that got reworked, survivors should not be able to run around them with the killer not being down the survivor. As it was a brain dead loop, which took zero skill to use. It's apart of my survivor code of honour to avoid using these loops when I play survivor.

    However, I play killer at red ranks I see no issue with jungle gyms and shack. In my opinion those structures are balanced as there's counter play for the killer. If I'm able to use shack and jungle gyms for a long period of time it isn't due to these structures being imbalanced it's due to killer's misplays, and making bad reads.

    Being able to run the killer for a long period of time, is the difference between a good survivor and your average to bad survivor. The best part of playing survivor is being chased by the killer.

    If a killer decides to waste their time chasing a strong survivor, then that killer is throwing the game. It's rare that you'll go against four strong loopers in one match. Often there is only one or two. The killer should focus on the weaker survivors, then worry about the strong survivor towards the end of the game.


    Anyway this post isn't about whether looping should be a thing in DBD, more about pallet spawn and structure RNG.