A really cool Leatherface buff/rework idea by Nickenzie
I did not come up with ANY of this at all but I personally love the idea!
All credit to @Nickenzie
-LF chainsaw swing is increased to 6 seconds.
-Pallets will no longer stop LF when he's in his chainsaw swing, instead he'll break the pallet and continue to do his chainsaw swing for a additional 2 more seconds. (Add-ons can increase how much of a bonus you get from breaking a pallet with Bubba's Chainsaw)
So you can do a 8 second chainsaw swing if you can break a pallet during your chainsaw swing.
Bubba's Chainsaw Addition: (Overdrive)
-Takes 2 charges to use.
-Hitting a survivor with Bubba's Chainsaw will give Bubba's Chainsaw 1 charge. (Add-ons can give you 2 charges if you hit a survivor with Bubba's Chainsaw)
-Hitting the attack interaction key during the Chainsaw Swing will cause Bubba's Chainsaw to enter a Overdrive state for 5 seconds. (Add-ons can make Overdrive last longer)
-During Overdrive, you'll a infinite duration of your Chainsaw Swing then you'll continue with the remaining amount of time you had on your Chainsaw Swing before you hit the Overdrive key.
-Movement speed during the Chainsaw Swing is moderately increased during Overdrive.
Really like this, give Leatherface a set of improved add-ons and I think there is something special here!
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I didn't think it would be that good, this would need to be tested on the PTB tho.0
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@Nickenzie said:
I didn't think it would be that good, this would need to be tested on the PTB tho.Oh its good.
It adds a real unique spice to Leatherface that he is missing and I would be all over this if it came true
P.S I hope you don't mind that I made a discussion out of this!
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No, it's all cool! I'm just waiting for the hatersIronWolf115 said:@Nickenzie said:
I didn't think it would be that good, this would need to be tested on the PTB tho.Oh its good.
It adds a real unique spice to Leatherface that he is missing and I would be all over this if it came true
P.S I hope you don't mind that I made a discussion out of this!
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@Nickenzie said:
IronWolf115 said:@Nickenzie said:
I didn't think it would be that good, this would need to be tested on the PTB tho.
Oh its good.
It adds a real unique spice to Leatherface that he is missing and I would be all over this if it came true
P.S I hope you don't mind that I made a discussion out of this!
No, it's all cool! I'm just waiting for the haters
Pfft, even if they come just ignore them.
I think this is great and would really separate him from Billy
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I think this would help him, besides what's the worst that can happen if he's OP? Survivors would need to play against LF as of he's going against a nurse since he's so dangerous.0
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Would certainly be interesting to try out.
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Maybe if he was immune to pallet stuns while in his chainsaw charge. Getting hit by a pallet would only increase his rage and increase his duration and movement speed during that charge. Breaking a pallet with the chainsaw would stop it like it does now.
This would force survivors to drop pallets early or face bubbas wrath.0 -
Yeah, LF will still be stunned by the pallet if it's dropped directly on him during his chainsaw swing.Spiritbx said:Maybe if he was immune to pallet stuns while in his chainsaw charge. Getting hit by a pallet would only increase his rage and increase his duration and movement speed during that charge. Breaking a pallet with the chainsaw would stop it like it does now.
This would force survivors to drop pallets early or face bubbas wrath.0 -
And if he breaks 2 pallets, his chainsaw swing will be 10 seconds?1
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Nice idea, but adding everything up we have 6 (default) + 5 (overdrive) + 2 (pallet) = 13 seconds of unstoppable force with increased movement speed. On maps with lack of windows it's guaranteed hit. Even considering instant pallet it's 5 (overdrive) + 2 (pallet) = 7 seconds
Seems a bit overpowered even if it needs 2 hits to charge up.2 -
Well, it depends on the survivor. If the survivor wants to feed Leather Face with pallets then it's gonna cost them. Think of it as Nurse, you have to play differently and use windows or lose the chase.ShowMeUrBirb said:Nice idea, but adding everything up we have 6 (default) + 5 (overdrive) + 2 (pallet) = 13 seconds of unstoppable force with increased movement speed. On maps with lack of windows it's guaranteed hit. Even considering instant pallet it's 5 (overdrive) + 2 (pallet) = 7 seconds
Seems a bit overpowered even if it needs 2 hits to charge up.
Oh, you only get the increased movement speed only when Overcharge is active then once Overcharge is finished, you'll slowly transition back to normal chainsaw movement speed.
However keep in mind that these are just rough numbers and they can always be changed later!
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It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.
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@HellDescent said:
It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.And?
Killers aren't supposed to get 4Ks every game.1 -
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.And?
Killers aren't supposed to get 4Ks every game.Yeah but you are lucky to get a 4k with LF at high rank AT ALL.
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Leatherface requires way simpler changes.
- A smaller terror radius
- A reduction to the speed penalty he gets by revving the chainsaw OR a shorter charge time
- His chainsaw attack changed so it doesn't stop after breaking a pallet
- His acceleration stat fixed (it's currently bugged, making LF slower than he should be when he uses the chainsaw).
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@Acromio said:
Leatherface requires way simpler changes.- A smaller terror radius
- A reduction to the speed penalty he gets by revving the chainsaw OR a shorter charge time
- His chainsaw attack changed so it doesn't stop after breaking a pallet
- His acceleration stat fixed (it's currently bugged, making LF slower than he should be when he uses the chainsaw).
I want these too, but i'm not gonna hold my breath
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@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.And?
Killers aren't supposed to get 4Ks every game.Yeah but you are lucky to get a 4k with LF at high rank AT ALL.
Yea - 4Ks are supposed to be uncommon. I'm trying to figure out the issue here?
I agree hes a little weaker than some - but it's not impossible to 4K.
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@Acromio said:
Leatherface requires way simpler changes.- A smaller terror radius
- A reduction to the speed penalty he gets by revving the chainsaw OR a shorter charge time
- His chainsaw attack changed so it doesn't stop after breaking a pallet
- His acceleration stat fixed (it's currently bugged, making LF slower than he should be when he uses the chainsaw).
I can agree with most of these but why out of all the killers does Leatherface need a smaller terror radius? His power isn't exactly silent.
edit - Also that is a genuine question I know it comes off as a little sarcastic with how I worded it.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.And?
Killers aren't supposed to get 4Ks every game.Yeah but you are lucky to get a 4k with LF at high rank AT ALL.
Yea - 4Ks are supposed to be uncommon. I'm trying to figure out the issue here?
I agree hes a little weaker than some - but it's not impossible to 4K.
The issue is that what is the point of LF when you have killers like Billy and Myers with FAR more competent insta down attacks. LF needs improvements to give him his place in the game.
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@Dustin said:
@Acromio said:
Leatherface requires way simpler changes.- A smaller terror radius
- A reduction to the speed penalty he gets by revving the chainsaw OR a shorter charge time
- His chainsaw attack changed so it doesn't stop after breaking a pallet
- His acceleration stat fixed (it's currently bugged, making LF slower than he should be when he uses the chainsaw).
I can agree with most of these but why out of all the killers does Leatherface need a smaller terror radius? His power isn't exactly silent.
edit - Also that is a genuine question I know it comes off as a little sarcastic with how I worded it.
A smaller TR would be beneficial to get closer to the survivors before they become aware of you, this helps him out as a close range only killer.
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LF was a premature rushed baby...its sad that they wont help him.
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There's 1 strategy that works for him take the first survivor to the basement with agitation, iron grasp, territorial imperative, make your choice
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@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.And?
Killers aren't supposed to get 4Ks every game.Yeah but you are lucky to get a 4k with LF at high rank AT ALL.
Yea - 4Ks are supposed to be uncommon. I'm trying to figure out the issue here?
I agree hes a little weaker than some - but it's not impossible to 4K.
The issue is that what is the point of LF when you have killers like Billy and Myers with FAR more competent insta down attacks. LF needs improvements to give him his place in the game.
If you don't like him don't play him? If you aren't good with him, don't play him?
People play every single killer, what's the point when you have nurse and billy... oh that's right - because some people are just good with other killers while others are not.
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You are so delusional, it's not the player... It's the killer! If you take two equally top skilled players and one is playing nurse and the other Freddy... Who's gonna do better? Obviously the nurse player because the killer allows the player to be good. Does that mean Freddy players are bad because the killer doesn't let him actually use his skill? No, it doesn't and that's exactly what is wrong with Leather Face.SenzuDuck said:@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.And?
Killers aren't supposed to get 4Ks every game.Yeah but you are lucky to get a 4k with LF at high rank AT ALL.
Yea - 4Ks are supposed to be uncommon. I'm trying to figure out the issue here?
I agree hes a little weaker than some - but it's not impossible to 4K.
The issue is that what is the point of LF when you have killers like Billy and Myers with FAR more competent insta down attacks. LF needs improvements to give him his place in the game.
If you don't like him don't play him? If you aren't good with him, don't play him?
People play every single killer, what's the point when you have nurse and billy... oh that's right - because some people are just good with other killers while others are not.
However, keep telling everyone that we are bad for 100th time because you don't want a strong killer.2 -
@SenzuDuck said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.And?
Killers aren't supposed to get 4Ks every game.Yeah but you are lucky to get a 4k with LF at high rank AT ALL.
Yea - 4Ks are supposed to be uncommon. I'm trying to figure out the issue here?
I agree hes a little weaker than some - but it's not impossible to 4K.
The issue is that what is the point of LF when you have killers like Billy and Myers with FAR more competent insta down attacks. LF needs improvements to give him his place in the game.
If you don't like him don't play him? If you aren't good with him, don't play him?
People play every single killer, what's the point when you have nurse and billy... oh that's right - because some people are just good with other killers while others are not.
I have 700 hours on the game and about half of that is dedicated to Leatherface, I can play LF I am just not delusional to the fact that he is a terrible killer and is part of the trio alongside Wraith and Freddy
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Words of wisdom my friend!IronWolf115 said:@SenzuDuck said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
It's nearly impossible to get 4k with leatherface at his current state unless you use really good addons or resort to noed.And?
Killers aren't supposed to get 4Ks every game.Yeah but you are lucky to get a 4k with LF at high rank AT ALL.
Yea - 4Ks are supposed to be uncommon. I'm trying to figure out the issue here?
I agree hes a little weaker than some - but it's not impossible to 4K.
The issue is that what is the point of LF when you have killers like Billy and Myers with FAR more competent insta down attacks. LF needs improvements to give him his place in the game.
If you don't like him don't play him? If you aren't good with him, don't play him?
People play every single killer, what's the point when you have nurse and billy... oh that's right - because some people are just good with other killers while others are not.
I have 700 hours on the game and about half of that is dedicated to Leatherface, I can play LF I am just not delusional to the fact that he is a terrible killer and is part of the trio alongside Wraith and Freddy
Edit: I'll keep replying to this thread so it stays at the top of the discussion list! 0 -
Yeah, if anyone wants to discuss in depth LF changes I will be keeping an eye on this thread so hey, lets have a chat!
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I'm willing to talk about some LF changes with you because holy only he definitely needs some buffs or a complete rework!IronWolf115 said:Yeah, if anyone wants to discuss in depth LF changes I will be keeping an eye on this thread so hey, lets have a chat!
I like the idea of his chainsaw swing getting extended when LF destroys a pallet as well as his chainsaw swing not getting interrupted. However, I feel like he will need to keep a 32m terror radius because assuming if my idea was in the live build... If you're caught off guard, you're gonna get downed. Survivors need at least some warning since Leather Face is a true close range punisher with these changes.
Now, I wanna talk about Overcharge! I like the concept of it, Leather Face now has a extra boost to his chainsaw swing and can come clutch if you use it to catch a survivor at the last second. Yes it does need to be charged by downing two survivors with Bubba's Chainsaw but it offers huge potential during a chase!0 -
@Nickenzie said:
IronWolf115 said:Yeah, if anyone wants to discuss in depth LF changes I will be keeping an eye on this thread so hey, lets have a chat!
I'm willing to talk about some LF changes with you because holy only he definitely needs some buffs or a complete rework!
I like the idea of his chainsaw swing getting extended when LF destroys a pallet as well as his chainsaw swing not getting interrupted. However, I feel like he will need to keep a 32m terror radius because assuming if my idea was in the live build... If you're caught off guard, you're gonna get downed. Survivors need at least some warning since Leather Face is a true close range punisher with these changes.
Now, I wanna talk about Overcharge! I like the concept of it, Leather Face now has a extra boost to his chainsaw swing and can come clutch if you use it to catch a survivor at the last second. Yes it does need to be charged by downing two survivors with Bubba's Chainsaw but it offers huge potential during a chase!
See I really like your idea, the only issue is whether the devs want to just buff him or rework him, if it is just buffs then it would probably be things like moving quicker with the saw revving and stuff like that. If a rework though they should give your idea some thought.
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Hopefully it's a full rework with my idea or something similar that gives Leather Face some options during a chase besides mind games!IronWolf115 said:@Nickenzie said:
IronWolf115 said:Yeah, if anyone wants to discuss in depth LF changes I will be keeping an eye on this thread so hey, lets have a chat!
I'm willing to talk about some LF changes with you because holy only he definitely needs some buffs or a complete rework!
I like the idea of his chainsaw swing getting extended when LF destroys a pallet as well as his chainsaw swing not getting interrupted. However, I feel like he will need to keep a 32m terror radius because assuming if my idea was in the live build... If you're caught off guard, you're gonna get downed. Survivors need at least some warning since Leather Face is a true close range punisher with these changes.
Now, I wanna talk about Overcharge! I like the concept of it, Leather Face now has a extra boost to his chainsaw swing and can come clutch if you use it to catch a survivor at the last second. Yes it does need to be charged by downing two survivors with Bubba's Chainsaw but it offers huge potential during a chase!
See I really like your idea, the only issue is whether the devs want to just buff him or rework him, if it is just buffs then it would probably be things like moving quicker with the saw revving and stuff like that. If a rework though they should give your idea some thought.
I can imagine a KYF game with every pallet thrown down and having a 60 second chainsaw swing! Imagining having Overcharge ready with survivors to follow you with No Mither so you can keep farming your Overcharge after you destroy tons of pallets!0 -
Holy crapballs. LF will be able to do something other than camping with these nice changes!
Right now, I only use LF to meme with Insidious once or twice a week.1 -
Leather Face REALLY need these changes. It gives him more options during a chase and makes him have huge potential when he gets too close!Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Holy crapballs. LF will be able to do something other than camping with these nice changes!
Right now, I only use LF to meme with Insidious once or twice a week.1 -
@IronWolf115
Reply to this thread to bump it up because we need the developers to see this amazing rework! 0
