disconnection punishment is going to far
these punishment is really ticking me off big time, i get internet outages, and you guys punish me for it? oh, that ain't the worse part, it keeps increasing the timer, im about to delete the game because of this, rainbow 6 siege ain't innicent with these punishment either but at least they have a limit on how much time you get banned for, banning the innocent is wrong, and should get rid of, right now, i gotten banned for 30 minutes, any higher, i will demand my money back, because I'm not gonna allow this broken system to punish me for something that is not my fault, no wonder this game is dying, because your punishment is to cruel, and making this game a total rip off, i can barely find a match on this thing, because people hate your disconnection rules, its not fare to anyone, and the rule needs to be deleted or the game gonna get deleted
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If you're experiencing Internet Outages, you probably shouldn't be playing Online Multiplayer Games.
So yes, they should punish you. And the timer should keep increasing.
I honestly think the first penalty isn't harsh enough.
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people shouldn't be punished for internet outages, it happens randomly, and no one can help it, so if your not gonna help with this issue, then get off the page, and your saying i shouldn't play online multiplayer games, sorry to put it to you buddy, i didn't pay for my internet to not to use it, and i didn't buy my games to not play it, on top of that, online games is the only thing that i can play, they should get rid of the penalty because its making the game a rip off
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Sounds like you need to buy better internet then because your selfish dcs hurt other players. And i called them selfish because you know your connection is crap but you insist on playing an online game knowing full well you are screwing over other players.
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selfish? what you mean selfish, theres only 2 internet company in my area, and i have the best 1, 400mbps, better than fronteir crap that gives you 25mbps, frontier rapidly cutting off, but they don't have a timer reset rate on dead by daylight at all, they just keeps stacking, and that's no fair, punishing quitters, understandable, but stacking timers, that going to far, oh, by the way, outages also not the main problem, its people that dcs you from the game with there hack when you are a better player in the game, i ran into that a couple of times, i mean, i don't see how i loose connection to the game without loosing my internet, and still receiving high speed, like i said, its not fair to anyone in the game, if this doesn't change, i will demand my money back, but how exactly do you get hurt from dcs anywaym when you get points from a quitter pop up
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This is because there would be no way for them to be able to tell the difference between someone genuinely disconnecting and someone pulling the plug.
Additionally, you shouldn't be playing an online game where a dc has massive effects if you have internet as such.
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well, they either needs to get rid of it, or put a limiter on it, because not putting a limiter, and not resetting the stacks everyday, is going to far, that punishment isn't even fair for the quitters, that why people still playing rainbow 6 siege because they have limiters on there ban timer, this game is dying fast is because, 1, they don't like the punishment that keeps on stacking without reset, or 2, they no longer can play the game anymore because they got disconnection so much, they are basically permanently banned over internet problems
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The stacks do reset everyday
I've DCed a couple of times (due to actual real life concerns) and it doesn't stack me to 6 hours the next day.
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why don't you guys see the problem here, there banning the innocent, its like getting arrested for being a hustage by a criminal
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if it resets, then why did i get 30 minutes, it was twice as much as i got yesterday morning from my last disconnection
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It works fine and there is no limiter due to intentional dcs. Additionally, the developers have confirmed the game is actually growing at a stable rate rather than dying. Majority of the players are in favour of disconnection penalties.
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if its growing, then why can't i find a match less than an hour
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Survivors are growing but killers are decreasing.
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can't you guys see, the penalty is hurting more than a rage quitter and internet problem disconnections, you can't get points if you can't find a match due to people getting banned, like i said, its either people quiting the game period, or the banning system has a happy trigger finger
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I don't have reasons to rage quit at all, i get points period by just chasing survivors around
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i get extra points when someone does rage quit
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actually, the numbers are increasing in xbox, since xbox doesn't have penalty's, pc and ps4 players on this game, has gone down alot, because I've noticed on how long it takes to find a open match
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wait till they transfer the rules to xbox, and see how fast the game will dye on there, it died on ps4 since February, u can tell due to not able to find a match, can you get points or level up in the main screen? i sure can't
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If You have a poor connection you should do something about it yourself. A stabile connection is the minimum requirement for playing online games. Its not the games fault that players exploit a quitting feature without penalties.
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its not poor connection, its outages, happens often, i mean, banning people for loosing internet, accusing them for rage quiting, is discriminating, and there our other reason why some people quit in the middle of the game, lets see, trollers, cheaters, and life, people have stuff to do, and they get banned because they have to go somewhere, or leaving because there an emergency, and so on, this penalty is hurting more than fixing, i don't like being discriminated because people get butt hurt over someone not making this game a challenge, who gives a crap if someone rage quit, its there loss of points, not yours, find a different match, quiters happens all the time in all games, do you think people gives a crap about quiter, no, they just laugh at them for quiting, because rage quiters are entertaining, its not fair to me or any other people that actually have a reason that they got disconnected, penalty is only making things worse, and when a game gets worse because a game creators decided to be a bunch of douche bags by making unnecessary changes, i delete it and try to find a way to warn people to not get the game, i haven't this mad since fortnite been mmaking unnecessary changes to it, and yea, i deleted that to when they kept changing the game, and making so much updates that eats away my memory space, the way they set up the penalty isn't even fair to anyone including the guilty ones, yea, people need to cool off, but stacking it over 3 day? actually, more than 30 minutes? if im gonna get banned over 30 minutes due to internet outages or i have to go walk the dogs, or had to go somewhere for an emergency, this game needs to be shutdown i can't predict the future where i be like "hey, im bout to loose my internet in 5 minutes, i shouldn't play at this moment until this happens". we are not side kicks to predict on what gonna happen in a specific match, so i don't like the penalty in 1 bit, i just warned my boyfriend to not get this game, because im pretty sure he will be just as mad as a i am, i hate discriminators, even in a game
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Again: Its a issue on YOUR end. The game isnt responsible for your poor connection. Its not discrimination if you cant met the minimum requirements to play online. And you wont get 30 min ban unless you DC several times after another. People wont have emergencies every three games or every day, so the penalty system doesnt hurt them in any way by starting with 5 min. You have no arguments on your side. Deal with it.
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you guys are clearly trolls, i mean serously, can you even read, I'm just gonna ignore you guys comments since you guys have no attention of helping, i don't have poor connection, last time i checked, i was receiving over 200 MBPS, just yesterday I ran into a lag switcher and gotten disconnected, with a penalty, that time, i didn't loose internet, nor my internet didn't got reduced, trust me, I checked, and also i know they where lag switching because every time I was chasing him, i lag like crazy, chase anyone else, no lags at all, internet disconnection annoys me because I don't get points off of it nor complete daily challenges, giving me penalty's for it, ticks me off, and you guys blaming me for something I can't control, ticks me off even worse, that has to be fixed by both internet provider and DBD side, theres been many people putting stuff on youtube on how they keep getting disconnected without consent and receive huge penalty, if DBD don't want to fix or adjust there penalty limit, well, i guess they don't care about there customers, if they ignore my feedback, then I'll delete the game, and never come back to it, that what happens when i run into games that goes to far with changes, i hate it, and won't ever come back to it, people say that fortnite changed and they made it fun again, im still not going back to that game, because im not running into that garbage again, you guys can blame me all you want, it just tells me that you guys are just as much as a discriminators as the game creators that made these rules, either limit the stacks to a reasonable amount, or get rid of the penalty's all together, I mean seriously, theres only 1 game mode that you can either choose to be a survivor, or a killer, and making it where they can't play the game at all during the penalty, it not right unless they made new game modes, like all the other games, such as rainbow six and call of duty, they only put 30 minutes as maximum penalty for abandonment on rank matches, dead by daylight has nothing but rank, if we get penalty that can stacks over a hour, a day, or over a week, what else can we play to increase our bloodpoints, or level up, this is most likely the reason that this game is gonna have no players left to play a match with nor against, it won't be to long till the game won't be playable due to people living the game for good until they change there rules, so i might as well just delete the game so i won't get annoyed by hours of waiting time to find a match, i won't reply to anyone else unless they agree to my arguments or the game creators or customer service on this website starts talking to me themselves, i have nothing but hatred against this game,1 cheaters, 2 disconnection penalty, and 3 unlimited disconnection penalty stacks
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but DbD uses dedicated servers now. Lag Switching is not a possibility on these servers (even though they do sometimes like to create derpy situations on their own).
If you are suffering outages or problems with your NAT type, then online multiplayer isn't worth the effort until you can rectify the issue(s). I was stuck with strict NAT for a long time, and ultimately had to put DbD (among other games) down until I swapped to a better service provider.
The DC penalty does suck for people who suffer connectivity problems or deal with one side taking a match hostage (a bannable offense, but it still happens on occasion), however it is a necessary evil to reduce the amount of players unfairly screwed out of fun matches because someone actually rage-quit. It's a punishment for bad behavior that's been a long time coming.
They will not be shortening or removing the penalty, nor should they, at least not unless the servers encounter problems on their end.
The game is still absolutely playable with this in place, and actually a LOT better than it was thanks to recent map and vaulting reworks. Matchmaking times have actually sped up as some players returned to the game. I would suggest working to improve your internet connection instead of complaining about it here, otherwise maybe its time you gave more offline games a try.
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ok, im gonna have to comment on you, because you clearly don't know how to read, theres barely an offline games out there that i can enjoy, i enjoy online games because they are challenging, and sorry to bust your bubbles to, but, dedicated servers doesn't protect any kind of cheats such as lag switch, if you couldn't read, i done my study while playing, and lag switch is rare but 100% possible, i only lag when i get near this 1 specific survivor player, i done speed test after speed test, lag wasn't on my end, it was lag switch, or the dude had the most terrible internet connection that I ended up suffering his connection, and improving internet, or getting better internet provider is impossible, due the fact that i have the best internet provider in my area, and the fact the outage is from the main line in my area that my internet provider has not fixed yet, if you are talking about those dam comcast internet provider that has spectrum and such, then your lucky to even have that, comcast ain't available here, comcast would be the best internet in the world, but where i live, i can't get comcast, only suddenlink, and frontier, and screw frontier, there internet is the worse, you people don't understand how much we suffer with internet outages, the penalty stacks is what ticking me off the most, i believe they should change it where it won't cause people to toss the peace of garbage game, where it belongs, the game use to fun, but not anymore if we gonna get punished for something we can't control, so, support it if you want to, the DBD rules and you people supporting it, making me hate it even worse, even if suddenlink does fix the outage, and the game creators change there penalty to make it easier on out mental state, i still ain't coming back, because thanks to the current rules and supporters like you, it has ruined my gaming experience for DBD for good, i"m not even gonna buy anymore of there rip off games either, if there gaming publisher is on the game, I'm not buying it, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, and im not gonna get fooled twice, so good bye discriminator no good for nothing garbage, i have a reason to complain about the stuff here, because the game creators didn't think this through, they didn't know how much it effects gamers, rainbow six has more trashier and toxic players, but it even way more fun than this, hate to say it but, its even worse than fortnite, you idiotic people should try walking in our shoes for a change, to see how it feels, you guys agreeing to this crap is digging a bigger grave for it, im not comming back to this page nor the forums, because this is clearly a fake forum filled with butt kissing supporters, and nothing else
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wow, DBD has deleted my post for making the comment on comparing it to other games i have, and how this is worse than the game that i hated with a passion, lovely, so yea, if DBD ain't taking this seriously, then they definitely loss my respect and trust, and im never coming back, there penalty's is over doing it, and they are trying to hide it, if they delete this post, then I'm gonna expose this on youtube
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Can confirm wait times not bad on PS4, it just depends on time of day for the side you're playing. In morning/afternoon survivor is quick and is killer long, at night it switches but longest I've waited for either is 10 minutes - I just switch to whichever is short wait.
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sorry to bust your bubble but, people can still use lag switch on a dedicated server, or any kind of modz, they just get banned afterwards, if they get caught, people think deticated server means its impossible to cheat or hack, if that was true, then why do they have a report system to report cheaters and hackers
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They have a report system to report cheating because you can cheat without using mods. Working with the opposing side is considered cheating, as is exploiting glitches for some kind of unfair advantage (think of killers abusing the basement bug or survivors climbing out of bounds). Systems like that are a holdover from when it was much easier to cheat under the old P2P connection system, left running as an extra option in case someone does find new ways to carve through the code.
As far as lag-switching, it is effectively useless on dedicated servers. You will not and cannot be the host on a dedicated server (the server itself fulfills that role), so trying to use a lag switch will ultimately result in you being disconnected from the match, leading back to your favorite DC penalty. Which is there in part to punish the fools who try that.
A penalty which, by the way, IS in effect on Xbox, despite your claim to the contrary. Might want to check your facts next time.
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Because you can cheat at a game without using mods or hacking?
Working with the opposing side is considered a form of cheating, as is exploiting glitches for an unfair advantage or to punish the other side (such as when survivors climb on props that the killer is not allowed to get to or when killers abused the basement bug).
As far as lag-switching, it's probably just your cruddy internet (would not be the first time I've seen someone cry wolf on this false positive).
Without being the host (as the dedicated servers take that role from the killer), there is no clear advantage for people trying to mechanically abuse the system to gain. In fact, because they are not and CANNOT be the host on dedicated servers, anyone trying to lag-switch would be disconnected from the match and suffer your favorite DC penalty.
A penalty which, by the way, IS active on Xbox despite your claim to the contrary. Time to get with the times and check your facts.
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Today I was disconnected from the host three times.
My penalties are increasing.
Please, I would like you to redefine my penalty, because it was the server's fault and not my internet.
I would not like to receive only apologies.
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sorry guys, but sometimes game crash by itself, it is defenetelly our guilty! We play SWF and all of us have different game - good PC worse internet, worse PC but excelent internet, medium internet medium PC and EVERYBODY has problem sometimes.
You say: buy better internet. Not everybody lives in NASA center. So think more open and think about different situation of all players. RQ is something else than ######### game crash because of "we did a pretty good job so far"
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If you put a limit or reset it everyday then just leaves people to disconnect as much as they want if they're losing and then just play the next day if they get too long penalty.
Are people with shaky internet connections being punished yes and that's unfortunate but I rather have a vat then miss Claudette who doesn't want to give me a Hook decides to disconnect because she's the first person to go down. Not only screwing over my emblems and bloodpoints but the emblems and blood points of her teammates as well
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My friend disconnects a lot and the game punishes him heavily and it's not right.
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you sir, needs to check your fact, my internet speed was staying at full speed while the lag was happening, have i mention i'm getting over 200mbps the entire time, it doesn't matter if its dedicated server or not, and lag switch is so east to get, and it doesn't effect servers, just peoples internet ping, learn to read before making a post about this precious dedicated server you guys keeps talking about
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Do you even know what you're talking about? They are affecting THEIR OWN connection to the server by briefly disconnecting their internet. It is ineffective when the culprit CANNOT be the host, because the game will not crash other players connections, try to host migrate, or role with the hiccup like Peer to Peer systems tend to do.
The whole reason people even used that tactic in DbD was BECAUSE of the old P2P hosting system, where the host (killer) could interrupt their own connection to interfere with the flow of information from the survivors in their lobby, potentially freezing them in place or snapping them back several meters to an earlier position that the 'server' (host) had last registered them at. That is not how things work around here anymore.
On dedicated servers, if someone activates a lag-switch or otherwise fiddles with their connection in a way that would briefly disconnect their internet, they WILL be disconnected from the match. It will no longer affect you or the other players besides losing a survivor, or the match flat out ending (because the killer was kicked out). The servers aren't perfect, but they do act as a massive obstacle in the way of people who want to abuse lag-switches.
Glitches and rubber-banding do happen (though a lot less than they used to thanks to vaulting tweaks), but they are a flaw deriving from bugs in the game itself or from an individual player experiencing a decrease in internet speed, not from someone else lag-switching to affect your connection.
It is unfortunate that the DC penalty punishes those who suffer outages or don't have reliable internet, but how are you expecting to play online multiplayer games if your internet is not solid enough to stop you from frequently being dropped out of servers/matches? That's incredibly selfish, potentially disrupting the match of 4+ other people because your service or equipment is not up to snuff and you don't feel obligated to improve it.
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i just recorded a video clip that make all your comments have no sense at all, so far i gathered, if the killer dc, the killer gets no point at all, but we do, we get escape points, i also heard from this 1 dude talking about rage quitters needs to calm down, and give a penalty, but the problem there is that, if you gonna penalize rage quitters, its just gonna increase there rage rate, especially when it comes to a massive amount of time penalty, if they just limit the penalty, or just add a new game mode for them to play while waiting for the penalty to be lifted, people wants to level up and earn items, no just sit in the penalty room, its already hard enough to find a match as a survivor, and if im not mistaken, if a dc came from survivor side, we would have less generators to repair, but the killer gets rage quit points from us, so, the penalty is just pointless if you don't have another game mode for people to play, my goal is level up, and get better at games while im playing, i can't get better if i have penalty's on me, the only person that rage quitting really hurts, is the rage quitter without the penalizing, with it, your just hurting them even worse, because rage quiters and dc doesn't get any rewards at all
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if you have a technology that could scan the players' head to see whether their internet accidentally disconnect or they rage quit and unplugged the internet cable, i thought you have already earn the nobel prize insteading of whining something that is caused by yourself. If your internet is bad, just dont play any online game. We dont actually care you intended or not, but you ruin other's game, so punishment should be same with rage quitter, sorry. BUT, if the disconnect is caused by the DBD server, then yea, i feel sorry for you and you should not be punished. thats the only exception
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i play online games if i want to, i didn't buy a console, game, and internet just for decoration, i don't know what on earth is you guys problems with disconnection that does not effect a thing in the game at all, the people that get dc for any reason doesn't recieve points, people that stays does gets points, you guys are getting mad over dc's for no reason, you people are selfish if you think that only people that allow to play is people that has good internet connection, well sorry to put it to you, but, your not gonna get your wish, internet disconnection or not, im still gonna play video games, if you got a problem with that, then go to someone that cares about between stay on 24/7 internet and the internet people can't control, you dumb people talking like we have controls if our internet gets disconnected or not, like we are some how gods, its imposible to control something that is uncontrollable, its like punishing someone for not being a physics, or punishing a victim because they are a victim, its not right, if my internet outage is against the law, then arrest me now, because everything else is already corrupted, even the dbd is corrupted with there messed up rule, people didn't buy a game to just get penalized by a dam rule that they decided to make after they bought the game, if i knew they where gonna add that, i wouldn't have bought it, how would you like to get punished over hiccups, sneezing, or even getting sick that no one can control, theres a reason why im against these penalty's because i know how it feels to be punished that was completely out of my control, i had to dead with a abusive perents that beats me and punish me, for waking them up by accident with a hiccup or a sneeze, if you guys think this is right, then you people are no different than my abusive parents, i went through it before, and i refuse to go through it again, that why im demanding to either limit it, or get rid of it, and i won't stop till it happens
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i think you are the selfish one, if you dc your team become 3v1.
if you thnk there is a high possibilty of dc, dont play it, if you do, you are the very selfish one. You are not the victim.
Interneet stability is a responsility of the player, it's not uncontrollable. If it is uncontrollable, DONT PLAY IT. It like you know your body is not capable of going for a football match, just dont go it, because you screw your team. Its selfish if you know that you are not in a reasonable condition but persist to join. Sure no one blame one dc or two dc, but constantly dc? i think the problem is you
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But i would not blame you if you live in a third world country that you try your best to have a stable internet but you cannot.
other than that, asking your internet provider/ mom to buy you a better router etc. Your arguement is selfish as well.
"i play online games if i want to, i didn't buy a console, game, and internet just for decoration"
yes, i drive my car if i want to, i didnt buy a car for decoration, so i dont need to care about other users on the road, and drive like a mad guy and blaming others for not understanding my freedom of driving mad on the road.sometimes my skill is uncontrollable, sometimes my hand shakes and sometimes my leg could not land on the break. but you guys discriminate me, and ask me not to drive! this is my freedom to drive on the road!!!, why are you guys so selfish, if i crash my car, its me who suffered! why are you guys so mad" -->i think you would then rather ask me not to drive because I am not capable of driving even i have a damn car.
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Look, let's put it like this:
If you drive on the road, you are expected to have a car that is up to par with current speed, safety, and emissions standards (a.k.a. 'road legal'). If you are driving some beaten jalopy with bad steering or weak brakes, you are actively jeopardizing the lives of other drivers that you are sharing the road with. It would be all too easy for a junker like that to lose control and cause an accident, possibly injuring someone else due to your own negligence.
Online multiplayer games work in a similar way (thankfully with a much lower risk of bodily harm). If you are playing a multiplayer game over the internet, you are in effect SHARING that game with the other players in the lobby. If your internet, software, or hardware is not reliable enough to maintain the connection a reasonable majority of the time, then you are selfishly disrupting the experiences of other players.
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its not constant, its random dam it, if the stacks has the abilty to reset, then it doesn't reset soon enough, i loose internet connection about twice a day, sometimes once a day, the selfish one is you people for thinking that people that has internet disconnection shouldn't play, its like a couch saying you can't play football, or a manager say you can't work at there store because you have mental disability, you people are discriminators, i hope you guys internet starts screwing up, and then lets see how you come back to this forum, you be demanding them to lift the penalty rules just as i am, you people with so call perfect internet has no clue how it feels to get disconnected off the internet in the begin with, internet disconnection is frustrating enough, let alone the penalty's, i never seen a game in my whole life that put this much restriction on people, and this restriction is wrong, and that's final, now ho the hell can i close this dam forum because im getting tired of receiving comments that is more haters on people that gets internet disconnection than people that should understand the pain, because at this point you guys are bully's, oh wait, i think im on to something, theres a reason why you guys like this new rules so you can bully people to the point they rage quit, and they get penalized, because that what been happening since that rule exist
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