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Is it griefing to leave one player to struggle?
I was left by my team til' I reached the struggle point while they all did gens and ultimately died on my next hook because, and get this, I did not equip a toolbox to match the rest of them. Idk if they were a stack or not, but I got to wondering if I should have reported them or something. Technically, they did get me off the hook at the last second, but they definitely threw my survival chances.
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No. You're not entitled to a save and they have no obligation to save you. If they all did gens, my guess is the killer was also camping, which makes their decision smart.
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you dont know he was camping thats just an assumption. On topic no its not but its messed up that your team didnt help you unless the killer was just patroling around your hook.
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I know it's an assumption, that's why I said "guess". I'm not sure why you felt the need to repeat my statement.
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If the killer were camping, I would have understood, tbh, I have been camped to death before, but even when the killer was chasing others, I was sort of ignored and they fully stated it was because I did not equip a toolbox to match them.
I dunno, I am pretty new to the game and I've only been playing like a couple months so I don't know what does and doesn't count as griefing in the game.
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Then they were just dicks. However, it's still not bannable.
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It very much was and I hope you reported those people. Nobody wants them in the game or even likes them. That's why they don't have any friends.
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Honestly, been seeing a lot of that lately. I have seen people put one of the survivors (Idk his name) in a cop outfit and start saying racist stuff in chat.
It's extremely disturbing.
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Report them, always. These people are what makes PvP unfun. Games everywhere would be better off without them.
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I'm sorry that you have to deal with jerks. Not everyone who plays Dead by Daylight is out to spoil others' experience.
I know it's not the most pleasant of threads, but welcome to the game, and the forums. Let us know if we can help with anything. There are lots of nice people here!
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No, it's not. Sometimes, it's even the correct play. However, if they came to your hook and spammed unhook cancelling, I'm pretty sure that's griefing.
In general, remember that this is not a team game, as much as it sounds surprising to many. You can decide to survive in team or alone, but nobody is under any obligation, except to follow the rules. Of course, I think most will agree that the game is more enjoyable if you work as a team. Yet, it's not a requirement.
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No. You have the choice to help or abandon your team. You can absolutely prioritize your own survival and leave your mates behind. In fact, I used to do it quite often and would happily rank up regardless of my team's frustration.
People who get angry just don't understand the point of the game, and that's your OWN survival. The other survivors are there to be used as tools to assist that end. That's why saving people is a good idea, it can keep the Killer off YOUR back while you attempt to escape. The more people, the less likely you are the one to be found.
That said, if they are dead to rights or you simple don't feel like risking it, that's 100% ok and anyone who says otherwise is simply salty.
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Not reportable. I've left my fair share of team mates to die, ether because I thought someone else would get them or because I felt getting this gen done was more important.
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Yeah, context can be important when it comes to leaving a team mate behind or to die. Since sometime, it just better to go get the heck out of dodge and take the three man escape, rather than risk it all and have everyone dead on the floor.
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Despite the Survivors being way stronger if they work as a team, the game provides the option to not act as one.
It'd suck to be left on the Hook all the way until death, but it wouldn't be considered griefing, not in this case at least.
If they were teabagging right in front of you or smthn, and you had proof of that, you could report them.
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This is why suicide by hook is fair play. If your team can leave you to rot..than you can also rot by choice...
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Suiciding within the first 2 minutes of the game could be considered griefing. Especially when you did it because things didn't go your way.
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Sorry about that situation man, but good on you to check if it was an actual offense instead of acting impulsively. There's a description on the reporting categories, but even then it can get a tad confusing. For sure report anything like hacking (like a killer or survivor clipping or obviously zooming through the map) AND make sure you report IN GAME and through Behavior's support tickets. Don't leave the endgame chat until you've reported them through Behavior's support tickets, because you're gonna need their Steam accounts and info (or it's probably something else for consoles).
I'm assuming you're in ranks where people probably smurf, troll, or are just that stupid. Hopefully your future games aren't like this ;-;
As far as what's considered griefing in this game, I guess it would be the survivors working with the killer. Like the killer and survivor(s) farming you while the others don't get harmed/farmed and you die right away for it. Or survivors bodyblock you for the killer or even throw a pallet for you to get stuck with the killer and get hit/downed. Things like that. Just make sure you can tell it's not some noob doing it by accident and the person actually repetitively tries to get you killed.
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You've seen someone get banned for it?
I havent heard about anyone getting in trouble for suicide on hook...
I remember once a killer found me early..like seconds in the match. I had a glory moment of running him for 2 minutes or so. I felt amazing, cause I suck at escapes. I stayed in one area of the map..during the chase never heard any gens go off. When I was hooked I saw all my teammates just milling around the map doing NOTHING. So I peaced out to a better match.
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Obviously not, Devs don't post information about people getting banned. It's why I said "Could" be considered griefing.
And cool, you left your teammates behind because you felt at that moment they weren't doing enough. Purposefully hook suiciding is honestly a scummy move. That's as bad as DCing because you waste everyone's time, fun, items and offerings. Idk what platform you play, but it takes me sometimes up to several minutes to in a lobby as a high rank survivor on PC. When a player hook suicides because of X reason, it severely wastes my time and gives other players the incentive to give up.
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Not a griefing.
But if the killer wasn't camping and they knew it and still deliberately ignored you then it was kind of a jerk move. And the reasoning with toolboxes is total BS.
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Lol. I was on a Entire team that was hoping someone else would win the game for them. (Or was there to be toxic to Killer by doing nothing) Dude, nice try putting blame on only person trying.
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I didn't blame anyone, you said it yourself that YOU were the one who did hook suicide. Unless you stayed the entire 2 minutes on hook through struggle and died, then no, it wouldn't be a hook suicide, it would clearly be your teammates/killers fault. But you didn't, because you saw them "milling around" and you "peaced out to find a better game" as you stated. What if they were looking for totems to cleanse or chests to open because a Killer may have a certain hex perk or they have a challenge to complete? What if they thought someone else other than them was coming to get you? What if the Killer was near them and they were trying to hide or find a way to get to you? Hell what if they're just recently new players that don't understand how the game works yet?
Regardless of the reasoning, you essentially DC'ed without getting the ban.
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It's not griefing. But given your description of how things unfolded it was a dick move. Also a confusing one. Toolboxes are useless now. So of all the things to screw over a teammate for that has to be the most baffling.
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I mean, honestly, I would have equipped one anyway if I hadn't been tabbed out while waiting for the game to start, and I only tabbed in when I heard the noise marker for the last 5 seconds and saw the match chat had em all spamming for a toolbox but it was too late. Q-Q
But thanks for everyones responses <3
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I hope it isn't bannable. I only throw the match when my teammates are intentionally being stupid and won't do any objective. I just had a Dwight just stand next to me while I was doing a one person gen, against the Plague. We were all infected, so you'd think he'd be in a hurry to finish gens. Nope, he just sat there, looking at me. I pointed for him to go to another gen and he just t-bagged. I went away and vault spammed to get the Killer to me and walked to a hook.
Devs should just implement the bot system that the mobile game has and just introduce a suicide option or something. That way, Killers don't lose out on points.
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