Let's argue: Hardest killer to learn/master.
Welcoming all hot takes, unpopular opinions and tough questions. What killer do you find hardest to learn or master?
I think Hag is the hardest killer to learn and master. With so much trap placements being available and you also have to learn how to teleport without going in the wrong direction.
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Nurse on console...
*Drops the mic
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BILLY! Not really though, I find nurse incredibly hard. Even with that addon that shows where my blink lands.
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Clown pre PTB. Not because he's complex, but because of how bad he is.
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Nurse on console due to how punishing she is now.
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True, especially with the constant fps drops on console.
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I find her to be in the middle. I just think she is very boring to play as.
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It's objectively Nurse. With any other killer you can get by against bad survivors with just M1, but Nurse is quite literally incapable of getting a down against sentient survivors without her power
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Gonna go away from the crowd and say Wraith and Bubba. Both of them are easy at first but extremely hard to master.
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in terms of skill nurse, in terms of taking the game in a different approach and needing map and in depth power knowledge, Hag.
I'd say another hard to master killer is pig and also demogorgon, both of their powers are hard to master since you can do some crazy stuff with both lunge abilities.
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Nurse. She's always had a steep learning curve, but since the slight nerf to her base kit that gave her a recharge mechanic for her blinks, her curve bent so steep it almost became a circle. Its amazing how that 1 little change made such a huge difference in how much more difficult she became to master. Topping that off, PC players already had to spend a considerable amount of time earning their muscle memory and getting her timing right while learning tricks with her to become effective, but on console? Holly hell is she difficult! There's a reason practically no on plays her on the console. She's difficult enough with a keyboard and mouse, was made more difficult with her new mechanics, and for poor console players, you also have to deal with the lackluster and restrictive nature of controller turn sensitivity, and frame rate drops...
Any killer that is hard to learn for the PC player base, but much more so for the console side, is definitively the HARDEST KILLER TO LEARN/MASTER in my book.
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Nurse will always have the steepest learning curve. With other Killers, you can just revert to being an M1 user. Nurse doesn't get that luxury.
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I find Nurse very fun to play even though I suck. Feels very rewarding to hit those blink strikes. Maybe some day I'll play her enough to get rid of the addon that shows me where I'm going to blink and actually be decent with her. I haven't played all killers yet which could also kinda cloud my opinion. I don't have most of the killers at the moment but slowly going to get them all.
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Lol not even a debate nurse. I never see anyone play her on ps4 for a reason.
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Nurse is the hardest to learn with the steepest learning curve but I say Huntress is the hardest to master and become really good with.
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Ähm,how?
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They're not hard to learn, but personally, to master and get 4ks somewhat consistently is difficult. Opinions are subjective.
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Nurse on console.
Man does it feel satisfying though when I accidentally land a hit.
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Huntress for PC, getting hits isn't hard, but actually mastering her IS hard. I'll fight you.
Nurse on console.
Basically this.
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I love you. For umm, some reason. Not because Billy is your number 3 choice on the list and I love Billy. It is entirely for some other reason not related to Billy whatsoever.
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everyone already said it is nurse. then probably huntress wich has a big learning curve to actually be good at her and not miss every hatchet, or getting dodged, the rest arent that hard or they just require map knowdelege or luck like hag for example. lots of people say she is hard, she is not hard she requires map knowdelege to know where to place the traps and how to apply pressure wich u can get it with any other killer, is not hard to place a trap as is not with trapper. but is hard to play her properly without thos factors, knowing aswell when to drop a chase, and many other stuff, people saying billy is hard lol he is not, he has a learning curve if u dont use addons, because that billy can be looped way easier than with addons but if u apply charge addons and speed damn, he is quite easy tbh specially after seeing a couple of videos of curving to know where and how you can do them u will get them quite easy without further practice... im a trash billy player and still manage to usually win at red ranks because i use carburator guide and tunning guide or tunning guide and thompson mix, probably would get trashed by a 4 man but that is because i never play except for rituals but wouldnt have problems against solo rank 1 survivors most time.
i think the first 2 are the hardest ones in learning curves, the easiest one i would say is freddy with snares. you are a pro master freddy after playing him 2 to 3 matches.
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Huntress.
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In terms of skill floor: Nurse.
In terms of skill cap: Nurse.
Huntress difficulty is often overdrawn, imho.
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Unpopular Opinion:The Trapper
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Yes, Demo. Certainly Demo is what I meant. Not Billy. Never.
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Trapper is easy to learn, but has a high skill ceiling in red ranks so can be difficult to master. Trap placement, pallet jukes, proper time management when setting traps up is something that takes a bit of time to nail down. Hag can also be grouped here as she is mechanically similar with slightly different strengths and weaknesses.
Nurse falls into the same boat being reletively easy to learn, but difficult to master. Her mechanics are simple and straight forward, but what takes time and seperates god nurses from others is survivor prediction, map awareness and being able to use this knowledge with a killer that can take advantage of it more than others.
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I agree, he is easy to play but to master he is hard.
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Nurse
Huntress
Hag
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Hardest to master is definitely Huntress. With nurse it takes a while in the beginning to get used to her but after that there's really not much else to learn. Predicting survivor movements and pathing with Nurse comes pretty intuitively and naturally if you're also a good survivor. But with Huntress there's a lot more you need to be mindful of. There's more that goes into playing her than "just aim well 4head". And I'll say this, the amount of good Huntress players I've seen who aren't streamers I could probably count on 1 hand, but I've seen a lot of seemingly good Nurse players that don't stream.
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Nurse, hands down. Especially post nerf. The people who pointed out that Nurse cannot resort to being an M1 killer if their power just isn't working out that game are correct, and she is the only one in that scenario...everyone else is faster than survivors. She's also the only killer in the game that double punishes players for using their power poorly, which only adds to the difficulty.
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Nurse. It's not even debatable.
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Nurse, 100%. Especially now with her rework she's a nightmare. She went from a steep learning curve to a 90 degree angle. I have so much respect for anyone who stuck with Nurse or is trying to learn Nurse nowadays.
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Nurse is the hardest MECHANICALLY, but after you get that down, all you have to do is find someone and there are that many tracking perks it shouldn't matter.
Hag is actually the hardest to learn and master. You need to balance a somewhat limited resource, map knowledge, being a slower than average killer, essentially non-lethal power and mind-games. You have to know EVERYTHING. And don't have a secondary attack method.
Huntress is in a similar boat here, but the fact that you have a lethal ranged power that only requires slight reads and is mechanics based makes her less difficult in terms of overall management.
Honourable mention to the Pig as the most difficult STEALTH killer to master! She's such a toolbox killer that everything is in some ways slightly weaker than it probably should be. You also have a lot of stuff to balance, like the amount of couch time you use, when to use an RBT or standing up vs. dashing. Then you have to deal with people thinking you're either a memer and try to boop the snoot (don't please, I'm not a farming killer......) or assume you're a trap tunneller.
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Nurse, hands down. Not just because you need to think an extra step ahead, or the uncalled for cool down on top of a cool down, but because she's a bug simulator. You're not just facing off against four other players, you're fighting the game itself.
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For me personally, Billy is the hardest to play because using Q and E to steer is mechanically very challenging.
Generally speaking though, I'd say Nurse, Huntress, and Deathslinger are the hardest to play. All three killers require lots of experience to play at the highest level.
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DEMOGORGON
My ass is he hard, that “intermediate” difficulty rating is bs. If you don’t use your portals correct you loose
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I don't think this is even a debate. Nurse is the hardest to learn. Nothing else has even come close for me.
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Mechanically? Nurse, there's no question. The effort to learn her is the effort to master her, if you don't then you won't win a single game. Deathslinger is probably a close second.
Strategically? That's a little more complicated. Hag and Trapper are the obvious ones, but all killers have their own unique strategies that you have to understand.
Overall, I'd probably say Hag is the hardest killer to master. You need to set the board well, you need to know when and when not to ITH, you need to master the technique of pushing survivors into traps but ONLY the traps you want to push them into, you need to put down surprise traps that only get triggered in specific situations... There is a lot that goes into hag. And mechanically speaking, she isn't the easiest.
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I mean nurse for sure, can't kill anyone for the first million games until you figure out how to blink through stuff.
That out of the way though, Freddy eludes me. He seems so simple, slash people, put red stuff on the floor, make gens vomit blood, profit. But in practice he's like a weird hag trapper with no immediate benefit like traps give. You have to basically know where the survivors are and where they're going without anything to help with that.
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Nurse.
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id say Huntress
learning what you can throw over, through, and how much you need to charge a hatchet can be hard to learn, especially going for long ranged shots.
also, on maps that are very closed off knowing what you can throw over and through can be very crucial to whether you win or lose the match
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Now of course, Nurse is the hardest and this is undeniable. Before and after the nerf.
While i'm here, spirit is not a 50/50 killer lmfao. Technically, a survivor getting hit or not hit is also 50/50. Just because spirit has a better power than most killers does not make her penalties or 110% ms easy to manage. Example: Compare her power to something braindead like freddy's or legion's and you'll see what i mean. Now, as i said before, legion's power is much worse than spirit's, but it is much easier to use.
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I've been doing really good with clown now that I have his aim down and the right perks!
PGTW, BBQ, Nurses, and unrelenting.
He's one of my top killers now!
EDIT: He needs unrelenting because he has a short reach from his huge belly and tiny knife.
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Legion. How are you supposed to play Killer when you picked Survivor?
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Huntress, Nurse and Billy easily. I can tear survivors to shreds with Deathslinger but if I play Huntress it's practically set in stone. Billy's flick is also extremely tough to master but also an amazing ability. And Nurse practically goes against the fundamentals of DBD so she's on her own level.
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Nurse easily
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NURSE 100%
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"Picks mic up"
I'm console too!
"Drop mic again"
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That doesn't make him hard to master. It just makes him hard to win with.
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So true. At quick glance that new rift outfit could be mistaken for meg with deathgarden mask.
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Nothing to argue. Nurse is rediculious and totally not worth the effort.
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