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Discordance problem
So imo discordance at level 3 is worse than level 1. Level 1 gives more info than the level 3. Should it be changed?
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Definitly. Not sure about surveillance tho.
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Yeah, so it'll stop taking up a bloodweb slot after I get Discordance 1.
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I understand on one hand why T3 discordance is supposedly better than T1, especially because for new players, T3 would be better than T1. However, there are some T1's and T2's in the game that are better than their T3 counterpart. Predator is one of them where T2 is probably the best version IMO. Personally, I wish you could hover over a selected perk and click which tier you would like. That way, devs wouldnt have to neccesarily change the order of perks.
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Perk tiers are unnecessary.
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I use Discordance 3 because i wanted the slot in the bloodweb to be gone. Also the permanent audio cue of Discordance 1 is annoying (if you're in a chase or something), one time is enough for me to know that 2 survivors are at the gen or nearby when i arrive.
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I think the perk should work like this
"Any time 4/3/2 or more survivors are working on the same generator, the generator's aura is highlighted in yellow"
Instead of getting constant noise notifications, you get one when discordance activates, you will also know exactly when they get off the gen. This also makes tier 3 without a doubt better than tier 1 or 2.
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that is really good! also because i was forced to take discordance T3 on my legion and i can't reset anymore T. T
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The developers have commented on this. People prefer T3 and people prefer T1- I myself am more of a T3 person because I can't focus on too many things at once, so hearing the noise every 8 seconds messes me up big time). Swapping them now would feel like a slap in the face to everyone.
If we could choose what tier perk we want to run after having unlocked the same tiers normally (ie owning T3 Discordance now would let you pick between T1, T2, or T3, but owning T2 would let you use T2 and T1 only), that'd be the best of both worlds imo.
Obviously that would take ages & need a complete overhaul of the perk system's code, though, so I'm doubtful that would happen.
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@Doddle28 i think @Wubalubadubdub03's idea is great. A first noise notification for when it becomes yellow and then stays yellow as long as there are 4/3/2 survivors on the gen.
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Which makes tier 1 and 2 practically useless on any low mobility killer since from their wording of the perk it seems to only activate with 4/3/2 people on the gen in the first place.
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Tier 1 and 2 would be weak compared to tier 3, but that is how perks should be. Tier 1 would have it so discordance only activates if all 4 survivors are on the gen, with tier 3 having it activate if 2-4 survivors are on the gen.
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Which is what I thought, again making T1 and T2 useless on anyone but high mobility killers, since gens would be done before they could get to them
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Then wait till tier 3 to use it on low mobility killers. My fix isn't perfect but I believe this is better than the current problem with the perk. Perks like agitation and bloodwarden and honestly most perks have very weak tier 1 and 2.
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No, thats crap. On the one hand because you barely have 4 survivors sitting on a gen, on the other hand because most gens can't even be worked on with 4 people. Same goes for 3 gens, and with the new team slowdown it is not even recommended anymore to have 3 survivors on the same gen unless it is a very critical one.
This change would make Discordance a lot worse than the current "tier 3 is weaker" problem
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Perks should not be weak on tier 1, that's b***t
They even changed a lot of perks to make them viable on low tier like NOED and Devour (previously only got exposed on tier2/tier3) or BBQ (previously had the 40m distance only on tier 3 and like 60m on tier 1) or Kindred (previously had only reveal auras to single survivors and the killer aura revealed only on tier 3)
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I think weaker tier 3 is a bigger probem than weaker tier 1 and 2.
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no it's not. unless you max out your characters it is most likely the case that you have perks not at tier 3. the average for a level 50 character for me is 3-4 pages of perks with not even one full page of tier 3 perks. with such a design it would mean that I can't use 80% of my perks. Again, as I said, they changed a lot of other perks for a reason, to have the main purpose work on tier one and just give a bonus with higher tier.
Next point: having the information when they leave is a pretty strong addition, that is why they have a lot of conditions on gearhead. If the perk works, it is a pretty strong information, the perk is just weak because you get the information very rarely at that time where you need it. If you would do such a feature to Discordance without any cooldown or prerequisites other than muliple survivors, it would especially in endgame become pretty OP
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I guess we just disagree on this. Do you have any suggestions on how to fix the current discordance?
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Just switch the order of the seconds. There is no rework needed for this perk.
And I personally wouldn't even focus on that perk because this "issue" is not really that bad. Tier 3 is still a good perk regarding it's purpose. You just get the information 4 seconds later if they are still on this gen or not. But you know that there is a gen where at least 2 people were working on, so even if they left it might be worth kicking it. Not the biggest problem in the game for me right now
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Many people like tier 3 better, so the problem would still exist if they were switched. Also, tier 1, even though it is arguably better, is quite annyoing because of spammed noise notifications. And while it might not be that big of a deal, this is literally a discussion about the perk.
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the point is that is an easy fix in one of the most probably best perk in the game. I think it's importany hoenstly
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I never heard someone complain about the notification.
And yeah, if you have people complain about tier 3 and people complain about tier 1 then we need a rework... or we just say there will never ever be everyone happy with everything in the game. This is seriously a topic then that shouldn't even be adressed
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They've stated that it's not objectively worse, that some people might prefer the longer Aura duration.
I find that statement sketchy by itself since i haven't seen nearly as many people prefer Discordance III on these forums.
So yeah, it is a matter of preference, but when so many prefer one option, maybe it's time to change it, or add an option to use a specific version of that Perk.
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yeah we need only someone of the dbd staff to say something in this discussion
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