Killers picking up survivors getting the unhook shouldn't be in the game
I really don't understand why killers are allowed to pick survivors straight up when they are saving the person on hook, it makes sense when someone is vaulting stupidly or just sat on a generator when they should be running because they can actually happen organically, however the picking up off the hook only happens when a killer is camping the person on hook. Surely it makes more sense for the killer to hit the person unhooking then they get the unhook then you down them, this means the other survivor actually has a chance in the game and you can choose to chase them straight away if you like.
I know a lot of killers who think the game is too hard will disagree but I just think it encourages camping which Dead by Daylight shouldn't do.
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Why are you unhooking in the killer's face? Stop hook farming.
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Its the survivors fault for having the gaul to do it literally in the face if the killer. The killer shouldnt get punished for that.
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I wouldn't say its camping in every scenario. There been tonnes of times ive chased a survivor and they run to the hook trying to unhook, despite me being there. Its merely there to dissuade people from unhooking right in a killers face
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This is especially fun for the killer when the person going for the unhook has an active DS due to being unhooked shortly beforehand and now there are at least two survivors you can't pick up.
Going for an unhook while the killer is there is dumb and you shouldn't do it. The only exception to this is when the survivor on the hook is about to enter the next hook stage and you can buy a little bit of time by going for a bad unhook.
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" however the picking up off the hook only happens when a killer is camping the person on hook."
No.
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It's not hook farming to try and save your friend off the hook, yes I could sit around and do generators and get a +1 but I don't want my mate getting a -1 and having a terrible game so I will try my best to save them, I'm happy to go down but I should be able to give them a chance first
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Thats why im using STBFL it always saves time in scenarios like that. Not a fan of camping or hard campers but it is how it is. Just bait the unhook get a hit and unhook
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I understand baiting the unhook but the problem is killers who just stand behind you waiting for you to be like half way through the unhook to pick you up not even interested in trying to hit you
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Half the time I get a grab is when someone is actually rescuing in my face right after I hook someone or when someone runs me to the hook. But you shouldn't complain because a killer isn't going for the bait.
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It doesnt only happen when the killer is camping. And camping is sometimes the right thing to do.
Heres a question, how is a survivor thats bleeding profusely and beinh chased by a supernatural serial killer able to repair a generator especially when they have no actual knowledge of how generators actually work
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You are able to give them a chance, if you play well. If you got grabbed, that's because you tried to unhook in the killer's face, so you screwed up your attempt.
And you may not call it hook farming, but when the killer is right there, ready to down your friend and you, that's hook farming.
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Youre ACTUALLY asking for a free unhook 🤦♂️
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Well that might be the case but never happened in my experience of playing killer, and most of the time when I'm survivor it's some killer facecamping
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Fast forward to them removing the ability of killers to grab hook swarmers.
Can you imagine how every game would then be filled with unhook dive bombers? I mean it's bad already, imagine being Freddy across all killers. No thanks. Old Freddy could not stop unhooks, and it was pain I never want again
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Let's not get into the semantics of this game I mean I'm no doctor but I'm not sure the healing method of rubbing someone's back is effective for someone who's had a hook through their chest but that's unrelated, in regards to your other reply it's not a free unhook it's me going down as well so they've got two hits off the unhook and if they're any good they'd leave me on the ground and chase the unhooked survivor
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Well it might be bad in terms of kills but imagine all the malicious points for the hits on survivors plus the devout for hooking the person who unhooks, surely you want as many people injured as possible as killer especially if you're running nurses or thanatophobia
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If saving someone wasn't part of the challenge. When you got down you'd just die and loose a life respawning elsewhere
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If people want to versus campers all day thats what it would become. Every match would disintegrate into clown fiesta at the hook, more than it alrdy does.
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I love the cocky surv that think they can hook trade, with a lot stbfl stacks he'll go down before the unhook even happened.
One of the reasons why stbfl is really good against tryhard swf imo :) they depend on the hit cooldown a lot of the times (like bodyblocks etc).
@OP: well hook grabs are fine tbh. I'm also fine getting camped as the last survivor if all gens are done, bc what else is the killer supposed to do? Polish the door knob while they get an easy escape? Its either a trade or they can "outplay" me with either skill or perks (BT / DS / DH etc).
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Its not semantics. The devs put something in for gameplay reasons and I was pointing out another thing they put in for gameplay reasons. You can try and unhook in my face and you expect me to not be able to stop you, just like you can finish a gen in my face while im on hit cool down. If you want to unhook your friend, do it safely. If the killer is camping use bt and get your timing down better, you can to force the hit.
And yes, you are asking for a free unhook because without being able to grab someone it would always result in the unhook unless you rushed the hook while injured. Chasing the person that just got unhooked in that situatiom isnt even the right call since theyve got bt protection and ds and youre probably running unbreakable. I chase the unhooked, he gets to a pallet because of bt, i down him 20 to 30 secs later and by then youre already back up and i cant pick him up because of ds. So yeah, free unhook.
If i just hook you it was a trade at least but from a killers pov its 0 added pressure. The 2 people that were on gens are still on gens and arent required to come off because you did something stupid. Which is the entire point. Adding pressure.
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