2k is a depip...but its what the devs want....?
Doesn't make sense. I can't help if survivors bring toolboxes and gens fly, but what i can do is secure the kills i have instead of running to the exit gates to see some people crouching. I'm already going against red ranks as a green rank, if you want two people to survive why punish the killer for getting....two kills?
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You can pip up with 0K. It all depends on how the match goes.
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I just don't see how you can max out your chase points without leaving gens to be done as most competent survivors will lead you away from the gen so others can do it. Also you can hook everyone once but still depip?
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Honestly if they really wanted the norm to be 2 kills and 2 escapes the rank system would be based on kills with 2 kills being safe pip
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Very true. But nope, you literally have to farm to pip if you get gen rushed.
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2k 2 escape games are the most fun for both sides, but they happen so rarely.
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It's obvious not to over commit to chases, but how the ######### are you about to say just max all your points when you need to commit to chases. God forbid survivors spread out so when you try to stop progress on one gen two pop off on the other side of the map. How the hell do you counter that besides a teleporting killer?
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Just hit them all! Ok they're running away from this gen, i'll slap him once. Oh a gen popped over there let me go check it out, oh let me follow these scratchmark- oh another gen popped ok let me see, oh wow I've got him, slap. Oh he's running to this really strong tile and teabagging i better leave him alone, let me kick this genny and head back to patrol, oh another gen popped, these guys sure are flyin', oh ok i should try to slug one to slow things down, oh they're hiding in a locker lemme just grab e-, oh apparently im ######### terrified of survivors hiding in lockers now despite always searching in lockers for survivors.
yeah I've only got 200 hours, but frankly the counters to a good group with good comms don't exist and never will.
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2K is only a Depip if you played badly. Usually it is a Blackpip. I have even seen it to be a Pip (not for me, I never pipped with a 2K, but I saw a Streamer I played against who got a Pip with a 2K as Huntress at Rank 1...Before that I also did not know it was possible (except for Legion)).
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It depends, pips are not only measured in number of kills but also in number of hooks, how much the generators lasted, how many times you hit the survivors, how many times the chases you win (hit or a down) etc.
Generators can last 6 minutes while you get juked and disengaged without hitting anyone and get 2 lucky kills in the endgame because you had NOED and someone was overaltruistic, so you got 6 minutes worth of gens, 2 hits, 2 hooks and nothing else, imo that game was a disaster for the Killer and he should lose a pip.
Same as a Survivor that sits on a corner and does nothing then manages to escape the trial because the other 3 did everything, he should depip.
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They want you to AVERAGE 2 kills not get 2 kills. Also rank is not important
-very cool rank 1 guy that is totally not me because I said rank doesn't matter
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Its about hooks not kills. I just had a game where 2 were dead before a single gen was done, i let tge other 2 do all 5 gens and bounce. I still got a safety.
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Its a gage for ranking up in a sense as 2k is an average. If you get over 2k then you technically are above average in theory and these are the players who should find themselvesin red ranks.
Now its not just about killing but also how well you do in other aspects. As the best players can win chases fast, do multiple hooks, basically put out pressure all the while the survivors still have hope to feed the entity.
So in terms of lore securing even 4 kills by say slugging, camping or doing it too quicklywould displease the entity as the survivor didn't have a lot of hope to feed it.
In terms of the game though not ranking up due to being matched with lower skilled players is an issue as sometimes you can't help but just be a lot better than them. There is also the issue that certain killers do better in some emblems than others like Legion being great at gaining emblems while Billy gets punished for using his power. This is why a lot have asked for the all for one system to be looked at.
Then there is of course each individual person who has their own ideal of what they want to get out of a match and its why a lot of people say rank doesn't matter.
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What do many of you seem to miss is that even an ideal 4k match will only have 2, 1, or no generators left to pop. It's not about pressuring everything all the time, it's about building incremental pressure. If you can have 3-4 hook actions done by the time you're at 2 gens left, you're doing all right.
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So essentially you have to kill the survivors after they've already gotten their pips
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Wow there are still people how do not understand the difference in kills and Pips.
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I'm a new killer, so yeah. Sorry if you choke your chicken to the game everyday but i'm still getting the hang of things.
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Just ignore LPT, he's basically a bot that goes to every thread to insult killers in one way or another.
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fair, honestly I just 3k'd with nurse with all the gens done and safety pipped, might just be at the rank I deserve to be at. 10
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Usually a 2k for me involves a safety pip (sometimes it's a depip but I celebrate those occasions) so idk man.
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Why do you want to ruin others gameplay so bad? What did they do to you?
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If you pip with a 0k, the survivors are farming you.
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Well it has many factors.
Did you just tunnel and camp the 1st guy and hit the second guy with Noed and single hooked him?
Or did you 3 hook both of them while also hooking the the others 1 or 2 times.
The first scenario will give you a derank and the second will give you a draw, if not even a pip.
It also depends on gen speeds and the Gate Keeper you got.
Were your Chases alright or were they to long.
A 2k can be anything, that's why Kills only can't really work towards ranking because there are so many other factors you need to look at.
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Otz getting a 4K (Well, technically the 4th guy did bleedout) and depipped.
Some streamer getting a "3K" (DC's are counted as deaths) and depips.
Biggest issue IMHO is it counts HITS and not health-states damaged for some of the emblems, which punishes insta-down killers and killers like Plague (and since one of the emblems gives points for hits and takes off points when survivors heal, Plague is HEAVILY punished when people cleanse since they take off a point you can't get back), while rewarding Legion. I don't have anything really against the concept of the emblem system, but tying Adept achievements to a double pip for killers makes Adept Plague an absolute nightmare.
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Its about hooks, not kills. Ive safety pipped when everyone escapes. Hooks and hits.
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the reason that this happens is that even though the devs want you to get 2 kills, the rank up system doesn't work with killz=skillz. The entity knows damn well that a killer can kill. It is about how they kill, and about how they torture the survivors.
As some people have already pointed out, there are games where the killer got all 4 survivors, or multiple DCs happened, and the killer still depipped. It is dumb, but it happens. Meanwhile, when 2x blood points come out, i will be nice for 2 or 3 matches and farm with survivors, and will usually either almost pip or pip. Because, even though it is staged, the game thinks "man, the survivors are 2 hooks in, and he is getting lots of hits. He did try to defend a couple gens, and he 'chased' quite a bit". Therefore, i pipped on some of those games.
If you get a 4k real fast (let's say it was a billy), the game goes " he got all 4, but didn't have to think about gens, barely did any hits, and only hooked 4 times total. He didn't get many emblems, so he gets a black pip".
Back to my main point: in the end, it isnt about killing, but about torturing survivors.
You can slug all 4 of them and kill them, but that isn't what the game is about. It is about killing the survivors souls little by little, not about killing the survivors as fast as possible.
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Pip isn't based on kills it's based on hooks. If you kill 2 people first hook with noed at the end. well yeah you dont deserve to pip.
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You can even blackpip with 4k, if you crush them all.
What about survivors killing themself on the hook? That should not punish the Killer.
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Devs are working on bots, the low quitter bonus won't be relevant anymore
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