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Enduring + spirit fury or enduring + brutal strength
Whats better?
I always use enduring + spirit fury combo, but i feel like enduring + brutal strength seems more comfortable.
What do you prefer? Ending a chase quickly or removing all pallets of the map faster?
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I am a fan of just Brutal Strength on several of my killers. The thought on just Enduring is you can mindgame the pallet after getting stunned but I find too many pallets difficult to run around. Just removing them makes the end game considerably easier.
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Why not both?
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brutal strength isnt a massive speed bonus tbh, so spirit fury
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Spirit Fury becomes a wasted perk slot against smart SWF with voice coms. Tried the combo a week ago. I got stunned one single time at the start of the match and due to Enduring they ALL knew what I was up to and dropped the pallets a little earlier/JUST out of stun range for the rest of the match denying my Spirit Fury. It's only fun when people fall for it. Way too much of a risk for too little reward.
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I dunno it's pretty easy force stun or death. If they want to let me kill them just to not stun me I'm cool with that.
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Brutal Strength because Survivors can't counterplay it. Once good Survivors know you have Spirit Fury that'll just drop pallets early to avoid stuns and won't let you use it.
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Clearly the answer is all 3 with pop. Gotta kick em for fury anyway.
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The enduring stun time wasn't changed that much. It's just that before, the animation was sped up by 75% but it resulted in a 50% ( maybe give or take a few fractions of a second) decrease to overall time stunned. They just changed the text to make that more clear to the person reading it. It's interaction with stuns as a whole did get nerfed though.
but I'd go with End + brutal because like most people said, once they know you have it, they throw it down early and now you're -1 perk. Though you're bound to run into survivors who will still thirst for the pallet stuns even after.
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It is after 5 kick animation you save 2 or 3 seconde that count pallet, gen and breakable wall that nean most of the time you will save 10 seconde per match just by having brutal strenght
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Depends on the map and the Survivors you're facing; two things that you don't know when picking your perks.
Some Survivors pre throw pallets a lot, others get greedy for stuns.
Some maps have lots of loops with LOS or really safe pallets forcing you to tank a stun if you wanna get the pallet gone quickly; other maps have a ton of super unsafe pallets, where disrespecting them can tend to get you bonked constantly.
It also depends on your Killer.
For example; Hillbilly doesn't need Brutal Strength and benefits more from instantly destroying a pallet midattack than most other Killers; so SF + Enduring would be better for him.
I'd say neither pair is objectively better or worse than the other - they can both be good.
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The thing about Brutal Strength is that you will always get use out of it. It is a very consistent perk. It works on so many actions and allows you to eat pallets and be done with them. The game is about time and resource management. Every sec and pallet count.
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Depends on the killer you're playing. For example, SF & Enduring are a superior choice on someone like Hillbilly or Leatherface, whereas someone like trapper might benefit more from BS & Enduring.
Personally, I'd choose BS & Enduring when you consider how optimal survivors generally expect to see SF when they notice Enduring and begin to drop pallets early. BS counters this.
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Here's a crazy idea: don't use either. Run Enduring by itself.
NOW HEAR ME OUT!
Lots of people above have talked about how Spirit Fury doesn't work twice against good teams, but I've found it doesn't often work more than twice against even BAD teams. All in all you get very little value out of that combo.
The problem I have with Brutal is that it conditions you to stop and break every pallet. But with Endurong you don't need to break the pallet. That's the point of the perk. Unless the pallet is super safe just run around it and keep up the chase. If they run for the next loop you'll catch them immediately because you had 0 time stunned, and if they keep trying to run the same pallet you'll catch up to them immediately because you had 0 time stunned. It's a win win.
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