When it's smart to Camp
So its hard to see but if you look at the very edges left and right of the screenshot youll notice 2 survivors are hooked right next to each other and theres 5 Gens left
This is a scenario where it's a really good idea to camp as I now have the advantage. If both play out their hooks and the other 2 continue working gens I'll still have plenty of time to kill the other 2. If they try and save their friends they risk a third going down with no unhook.
My point is there are times when camping is the smart play and scenarios like this are why the devs dont punish camping. I think its good for survivors to see this from the killers perspective. This isnt me just being a dick this is a smart tactical choice.
Anyone else have other scenarios where camping is the smart play?
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It's always a smart play to camp the first survivor you hook. Winning with 3 remaining survivors is very hard and you most likely will win it. Survivors tend to get over altruistic most of the time. If they aint having kindred and only one tries to save the hooked one, another one will thinking, nobody is there, so he gets off the gen as well and wasting time, not knowing you camp.
Of course, if you want a sweaty game, don't camp, but it's the best option to secure a win.
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I had to camp the basement yesterday as Old Man because of pesky Survivors. Both exits were also prepped. Funnily enough, my dedication to guarding the top of the basement stairs earned me a 3k versus a 1k (the person who was already in the basement)... got some GGs after the game, too! I guess they realized that they didn't play smartly at the end-game... 😛
In your case though, I guess you just have to make the choice between points or an ez game. Skipping hooks on Survivors doesn't bode well for your score, but there's always the risk that they gain momentum after they're unhooked and pull off a win. I personally would not have camped in that situation, especially with 5 generators left, since I like for my games to go on a bit longer and earn more BPs in the long run.
Remember: The simple, ez 4k isn't what gets you the points... it's the hooks, hits, chases, e.t.c.!
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Yeah as far as bps go youre right, but I get a ton of those anyway. If a survivor is gone early I can take my time, play around, get plenty of downs and hits to make up for it. If I even care which half the time I dont
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Math checks out. Camping 2 Survivors is exponentially more effective than camping just 1, so the strat becomes a guarantee.
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Idk about always. 3 survivors that are smart can have almost all 5 gens done in 2 mins. Theyll be pretty close anyway. If you camp the 2nd person thats all youre getting. Thats assuming theyre not overly altruistic of course.
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It's a risk, but so is to not do it and facing good loopers that will waste your time even more.
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I very very rarely camp the first person and I do pretty well. Theres a lot of ways to hanfmdle loopers. To each their own I would just get bored doing that every game
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Had the same situation but then a wild Dweet appeared and just looked at me from the distance. I nodded and let him get the unhook. Still 4k'd.
Usually survivors aren't much of a threat if you manage to hook 2 of them at the same time so might as well give them a few more chances. Gets you more points anyways.
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When you need to.
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You could probably think of a million slightly nuanced situations, but most will boil down to one thing: it's advantageous for you in that situation, and letting them go would be shooting yourself in the foot.
Now, it's up to each individual to decide if they really need to try that hard. It's not a sleight against people who want to win, just not everybody is interested in sitting there the whole time. For me personally, if they survivors aren't trying to be jerks, I'll happily walk away just so I can start looking for other things to do more quickly and not be bored.
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I just had a situation come up. 2 survivors are left, one is on hook and hatch is right next to him. Would be incredibily stupid to not camp that guy.
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I get that, my point is really that not everytime a killer camps is it personal. In fact it usually isnt.
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This is why I run Kindred. And then proceed to get raged at after not going for a save and them screaming you should have traded. Why? So you can leave me on the hook and rescue your friend?
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So in many sports and games, there are plays that are really good and beneficial to one player or team, but often come at a cost of being viewed as "cheap" or a "bad sport." I'm not exactly saying this is what it is now, but I guess it's what the gamers today call "sweaty." I respect it when a killer chooses to not tunnel a farmed survivor, for example. I wish there were more soft rules in place to help this.
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I get that, but its not like people view splitting up to do gens as cheap even though it puts the killer at a serious disadvantage. It seems like an arbitrary thing to view as cheap. And sure, there are plenty of times I let survivors recover from misplays just to extend the game or punish a dick survivor, but its the expectation that I behave that way that I take issue with.
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When you hook a SWF sweat because all of their friends will try to save them. But don't face came like set it up as a trap
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Personally I never camp. I figure even if I do not get the kill for some odd reason then I get chase points. I mean you have 2 on hook and not one gen popped. I am pretty sure you do not need to camp because these survivors are potatoes. lol If you do camp though and kill lets say all or majority of them on hook one you may gain points on the sacrifice end but lose points on the lack of chase and other parts of the game like applying pressure to the gens. I say it is up to you and you decide when to camp but I almost never camp. The only time I will stick around is when a gen is popped and then normally that means they will be coming to save the hooker or when I clearly see someone coming other than that I leave the hooker and go apply pressure else where and wait for the hooker to stop hooking then run back and get chase points and rehooker points. 😂 YAY HOOKERS! lol
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That's not true. They already "punish" camping when it comes to the calculation of emblem points.
Check how the points for the emblem "CHASER" are calculated:
- -3 points: deducted each second you are within moderate proximity (16 metres) to a hooked Survivor (only applied after 10 seconds)
- -7.5 points: deducted each second you are within extreme proximity (8 metres) to a hooked Survivor (only applied after 10 seconds)
It's just that this only affects the emblem points, but doesn't affect the outcome of the trial when the camping happens (which is what a lot people in this forum are asking for and would like to see).
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yes, its smart to camp in this situation, but do you really have fun standing still for 2 minutes?
i could understand if you were at 1 gen, but at 5 gens theres no reason to camp other than wanting to be sweaty and win with no real interaction with the other side
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Yes, the best decision would be camping. However, i'm dumb that i usually leave them to chase other survivors...
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It is normal for a player to make the best use of what is available to him, that he is "smart", but this in no way constitutes an argument in favor of the existence of the actions that are allowed to him.
I can easily find situations where using an insta-heal was the best decision possible. Did that imply that nothing should change? No.
I can easily find situations where using a Mori was the best decision possible. Does this imply that nothing should change? No.
It's the same for camping, worse: it's not even an item, an addon, an offering, or even a perk. My opinion does not change: camping needs serious restrictions. Just like loopings have also been restricted, for example.
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While it is a good idea to camp in that situation and force a second state, it is incredibly boring to sit there for a while and not chase anyone. When I'm in this situation I just go for whoever I see on barbeque. It is also very boring on the survivor side when they get camped because they just sit there and you just sit there.
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If im one of they survivors and you're camping with 5 gens up im bailing from that game and finding another. I dont need the bp as most characters are maxed or care about rank so im loosing nothing but time.
The reason i continue to play DBD is for fun and fun only. If i dont find it in your game i'll go find it in another.
People will say "ooh but your teammates". I've been a solo survivor main for over 3 years, ive been screwed over by teammates and also screwed over my teammates, comes with the territory of soloing.
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You forgot the clickies and the squash makers on pallets. 🤣
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Its rare you end up standing there for 2 mins. What happened here was a steve came in to rescue kate and i slapped him. After 20 seconds or so nea said f it and suicided. Steve made another attempt and I went ahead and chased him allowing feng to save kate who was in the struggle state. At the end I gave Kate hatch, steve and feng died.
See that 2nd paragraph is why i made this thread. You expect me to give up a win and if i dont im a sweaty try hard. Thats bs. Im just standing there, i was neither sweating nor try harding. I forced the survivors into a position where THEY had to sweat and try hard, and I think thats what a lot of this boils down to. The survivor experience is for the most part pretty casual, so when they get pushed out of that comfort zone they react negatively.
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Thats what Nea did. She was out, and I dont blame her the game was over anyway.
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Oh I agree its boring, thats not really the point though. Neither is pipping or bps. If a killer is trying to win a game, which is 100% legit thing to want in a game, then in this particular scenario this is the best call. I dont always care about winning, sometimes i just want bps or im just playing for fun. In any case all are legitimate.
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I wouldn't say out and out camping is really a good thing. Perosnally I don't like the idea of it.
Then again I can't say much lol was accused of camping by a baby even though they were in the middle of the last 4 gens on ormond.
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It already has restrictions. Perks exist to help counter it, the killer can lose points towards pips and if only 1 survivor is being camped from the start the other 3 have time to do almost all of the gens. Outside of that, what exactly are you expecting the devs to do?
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standing there to ensure 2 kills at 5 gens completely wins the game for you as killer, so yes, thats very much sweating in my book
but, the sole reason its sweating is because there’s 5 gens. Would understand more if you were at like, a couple gens or something
but, you do you i guess
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How does one sweat by just standing still. That makes 0 sense.
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I find camping incredibly boring. You're free to play as you like, though. Just don't be surprised if survivors decide to play for the hatch with 3 gens left instead of doing gens.
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It makes sense to me because you’re ensuring you win the game with virtually no input from the survivors using cheap tactics, when you literally dont need to at that point in the match.
i just dont really understand why anyone would wanna just sit in a tent and look at survivors on a hook for 2 mins after 1 chase.
like, if you wanna do this go ahead, i couldn’t care less. i just don’t really understand how its fun
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Seeing a lot of Freddy pfps here lol
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"Cheap tactics" is bs. They put themselves in the situation and there are like 15 second chance perks. If they coordinated they could come back from this. And i told you why, it puts the pressure on the survivors. Simple as that.
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I dont play him much anymore, but hes still my fav horror character
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I agree it's a viable tactic...I personally don't do it just because I enjoy surprising survivors. But with the survivors now that constantly try and bully the killer it's pretty easy to seem like your camping when all the survivors are around the one you just hooked.
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Thats not smart, it's stupid.
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This is a good scenario or when the survivor is 15 sec away to enter the second stage or die on a hook its a good time to camp too
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Oh my god this thing truly exists, when i heard that some ######### killers have maid this page, first i laugh and think "poor" little baby killer they fell victim and try to make a support group for dumb children.
Then, i red the comments and this page, and from there i definetely stop laughing, All those unsecure people, who need to camp for the win instead of use their tiny brains, are the most reason why the community as such a toxic reputation.
I play both side survivor rank 1 and killer rank 5, and i never had to camp to have fun, which is basicly the purproe of a game, thing that many of the kids on this page seem to forget. If your live depend of your win on DbD, i'm really sorry for you, maybe your parents should have use some condoms to protect mankind from such degenerated child.
To those who really wich to progress, here is the right strat to use, choose a patern of 3 or 4 gens and secure them, of course survivors will have the time to do 3 gans, but you will see that only a few survivor take a look at the parten and nearly always have issues to do the 2 last gens.
With just a little brain and practise you will easily done 2 or 3 kills following this tacts, and realised that the game is quite more fun than while you use camping techs.
I will simply conclude by this, this game is based on "slasher" movies, have you ever seen one of this film? Did the killer win at the end? Of course no, he took some kill, and failed in the end. Playing killer is supposed to be hard and a 4 kills game should be rare, but all this crying babies who needs camping, tunneling and slugging to win, destroy all the fun in this game. It 's because of them, that we now have a stupid end game timer, which just give the win to the killer, exept if you can handle the 24% door techs. It-s because of them that "mantle of men", a very good perk, which was the only reason to buy ash, was nerf. It 's them, always victim, who constently ask that survivors perks to be nerf and of course, never ask themself about their gameplay, thinking they are best lmao.
To all of those, who will recognize themself, stop playing like toxic trash, use your brain, learn to have fun on a game, and if i meet you when i'm survivor forget your noed, i will clean it before it spaun and laugh when i see the perk on the board, because only lame player use it to compensate their hunting incompetence.
See you in the fog, if you can find me, and if you still use camping or tunneling, i hope you and everyone you care in this world, will know what is real pain and suffering.Enjoy It.
Kiss.
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You sure? I got a 3k and gave someone hatch so it seems like it worked
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I love the fact that this thread is so famous someone thats not on the forums heard about it and joined the forums just to respind.
And im sure everyone here is already aware of tge 3 gen strat, thanks tho 😘
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So your telling me that you camp with 5 gens left you know how stupid this makes you look listen kiddo im not a survivor main or killer i play both and one thing i just love about this game is camping i think if you do it your an ######### now how i play is i want to have fun if someone in my lobby is clearly new i chase let them go chase i think its fun because i dont bend them over and buttfuck them or do they get buttfucked im here to have fun not win hell i even let them survive because i did good in every other category but your the type of player that makes this game fun i love chilling with my budds and i get a ######### camping killer then my gameplay is im on hook just trying to bide my friends time but hey im fine if you think your not a ######### hey thats cool
Ps. You are
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😂😂😂 Please get that stroke you just had checked out and use punctuation next time. Especially if you're going to call someone stupid.
If the goal is to win, this is a smart play. There's absolutely no denying that. If the goal is something else like "fun" or "bps" then yeah this isnt the way to go.
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I need him on mobile q_q
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Reading most of these scenarios. I dont see how this is considered camping. I consider it camping if you as a killer are standing idly by a hooked survivor a few feet away. If you're yards away watching for other survivors trying a rescue (and actually there's times after you just had hooked a survivor. The others rush in for a rescue.) To me as a killer have every right to rehook that rescued survivor. And yet I been berated for that very idea. Am I wrong?
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