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Pyramid Head and Plague's emblem system.
I've noticed even on the ptb Pyramid Head was extremely difficult to rank up with simply because of his scoring events just like Plague. I just played a game all gens got done in 3 minutes while i was constantly hooking and downing people. At the end i got 3 kills and i didn't even black pip? Would the devs mind explaining why Pyramid Head and Plague are so bad with getting pips even if u play well? Also if anyone is gonna ask, i had around 21,500 points at the end.
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I agree, I've been winning a lot of games with plenty of hooks and most ending in a 4k, yet for whatever reason I'm barely ranking up. If I was playing a different killer, I'd probably be rank 1 by now.
Final Judgement kills and cage kills probably don't count for much, I guess.
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If you want to get his adept, avoid using judgement and use cages only when absolutely necessary.
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ye its kinda stupid how being an m1 killer rewards u more than using your power, same for plague
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Im not sure who is worse Plague or Pyramid Head
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Don't use his mori if it's not absolutely necessary. It hurts the emblem if i'm not wrong
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I agree they should fix this, but this is only an issue for me when it comes to adept achievements. Normally I don't care about pipping whatsoever.
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For making points, Plague is worse to pip from my experience Plague as well, can't get the damn adept at all because smart survivors will not cleanse
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the fact you had all silver means you either had a rough game yourself or went against a good team, plagues emblem system is broken due to people being in the broken status effect (less hits and chases etc.) however pyramid head is fine for pipping, having said that i do wish dragging you blade etc. would award more points, sometimes it can be hard to get that category up in a hard game other than that piping is fine, i have double pipped a few times as him today
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ye as i mentioned all gens got done in like 3 mins but during that whole time i was downing and hooking ppl, thats why i had 3 kills at the end they were dead on hook by that time. they just held m1 harder than i could
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well that could be due to an over long chase or you just went against a really strong team (trust me i know how that feels), thats a balance issue where good teams can get through gens no matter the speed of your chases, these are often meta swf tbh but his emblem system is fine, dont judge it on a harsh game as he`s not too bad to pip/double pip with in red ranks just depends on the build you have and team you go against, however plague just robs you whether a good or bad game lol
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But piping isnt related to points or power usage.
- Gatekeeper depends on number of gens at the end of the trial and how much time they were unfinished.
- Devout depends on number of hooks.
- Malicious depends on number of hits, hook states, heals and grasp escapes.
- Chaser depends on chases and hook camping.
Its true some powers like EW3 will damage your chances of pipping since you are only delivering one hit when survivors are exposed but points themselves dont really affect pipping overall (obviusly some emblem objectives like hits are rewarded with points).
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the only emblem i have trouble with is the Malicious emblem tbh.
like, 3 times in a row i got Iridescent Gatekeeper, Iridescent Devout, Iridescent Chaser and then miss out on the adept achievement because of a golden Malicious...
could it be that giving a Survivor their final judgement does not count as a hook?
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Its weird how with Spirit 1 gen left i had iridescend gatekeeper but other times its gold or less. Can't wait for the new ranking system tbh, these emblems need to go. If a character (such as michael with EW3) can oneshot why not reward it as if it was 2 hits? it just makes no sense
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i agree he is better than plague but his emblems are still quite difficult to get, most of the time even with 4 kills u'll just black pip cuz again either too short or too long chase and cuz of just using his final judgement, and ofc gen speed when u have no mobility
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Personally I like that he doesn't get pip's easily, even when he 4k's. The reason being because I don't really care for the red ranks, and if I can play well in the purple ranks, get a 4k, but only earn a black pip, then I'm happy remaining in the ranks I'm most comfortable with. It's strange, Matchmaking has been pretty broken for a long time, where-in I play at the lower ranks while getting red rank teams, or heavily mixed ranks, but for some reason every time I achieve red rank myself, I only get red rankers to compete with. At least in purple, I get more mixes than full, sweaty, red rank teams, and I like it there.
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Because it also counts how many generators are unfinished until 9 minutes into the game.
Imagine survivors finish 4 generators in the first minute and you finish the match with the last generator unpowered, that gives you less Gatekeeper emblem than survivors finishing 4 generators after 9 minutes have passed and finishing the game with 1 generator left.
I believe Gatekeeper is the most estrict and hard emblem to get Iridiscent since it measures how good someone is at pressuring survivors and breaking chases to shoo them away from gens (perfectly doable tho, I play as Myers and get it plenty of times).
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i didn't know it was only until a certain time in the game, that can explain it.
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Ye i play a lot of plague cuz i get the 4ks and good points but barely pip, sadly red rank is hell full of sweaty swf groups and i always verse reds, when i was purple i also versed many other ranks, weird
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Whenever I reach red ranks, I break out the ebony mori's to purposely de-pip. Just hook everyone once, and mori them the next time you down them. In red ranks, this ensures only 4 hooks, which is a depip, and it drops your rank even better if you also use a 1 shot killer or 1 shot tech since that ruins your chase emblem. After dropping back down to rank 6 or 7, I just use Plague or Pyramid Head now so I won't rank up quickly if at all. It's nice having killers whose base kits enable this kind of control over how fast you rank up. Sadly, because of this event, I'm trying to gain as many BP/Gateau's as I can on my big point earners like Doc, or Legion, which means I'm stuck in red ranks for the moment (why do I have to do so well with those 2?). As soon as I feel I've earned enough cakes though, I'm breaking out the mori's again and returning to purple ranks.
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well im just going off my experience as playing him at rank 1, you cant really use the emblem system against a high level team and that goes for alot of killers just because of how fast the gens can go etc. but against the average teams or the weaker red ranks he can double pip fine, i just hate how hard deviousness can be to get up for him, like personally i prefer to hook players unless im avoiding DS (60seconds is a long time even if hooking others), hes not like legion, wraith, doc etc. who get bp`s easy in every category
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Speaking as someone who has gotten both adepts. Plague absolutely. No doubt.
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YES. Plague is my most played killer, and I stayed in gray ranks the entire time. Now i've just decided to move to Oni and Ghostface, then switch back to Plague when I feel like it.
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this problem effects billy and leatherface also use your power #getpunished thanks emblems
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Not at all, smart survivors will not cleanse early
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