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Finally Realized Something

Zagrid
Zagrid Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 1,000

I realized why DS and unbreakable are such hated perks among killers. The reason is actually quite relatable.

Imagine that you are working on a project or playing some RPG. You finally finish/defeat something that was super tough and took a lot of time and effort. Then suddenly you lose your save, or the boss has a stage 2. You feel frustrated and defeated that you have to do it all over again.

That is the reason why DS and unbreakable are such hated perks. They undo all of the work the killer put in for free. DS not so much, but unbreakable especially. All the effort you put in to get everyone on the super sweaty SWF down, all completely undone by a perk that you can't counter effectively.

Yeah you can pick them up and hook them, but DS could stop you, the pressure created by a downed player could be crucial at the moment, or you actually have to leave to stop the final gen from popping, speaking of which also why adrenaline is hated again with undoing effort. Heals a heath state and a sprint burst, it undoes your pressure from injured players and resets whatever chase you are in.

Now I doubt the perks will see any changes because... meta but it feels nice to finally figure that out. I expect other perks with that same idea of undoing the killers work will also be hated.

I guess Noed is kinda the same, all the effort you put into clearing b o n e s or running the killer for ages it can be extremely lessened with an insta down, but personally I feel that getting hit with noed will never compare to having the whole team get back up because of unbreakable.

I don't know food for thought.

Anyway, to important matters why did BHVR nerf pyramid head's butt?

Comments

  • FGC_HELP
    FGC_HELP Member Posts: 114

    It's an interesting take on the phycological viewpoint of these meta perks but both can be easily countered, the devs added pyramid head into the game with the specific ability to counter these perks.

  • Wubalubadubdub03
    Wubalubadubdub03 Member Posts: 141

    His butt was fine and they just went and ruined it.

  • TheOhioHutcH
    TheOhioHutcH Member Posts: 178

    Yeah this is why I hate playing in red ranks as killer because it's nomal for every surv I go against has unbreakable DS, dead hard. At least those 3 the last one normally one of the other meta perks. But it makes me play different because I have to expect everyone has DS at least. 9 times outta 10 they do have it.

  • just_a_noob
    just_a_noob Member Posts: 247

    Just don’t tunnel the person off hook then you won’t have to worry about ds and you won’t have to worry about slugging because of ds...then they can’t use unbreakable.


    im pretty sure the devs have said that they are looking at ds so I suspect it will get a nerf at some point

  • TheOhioHutcH
    TheOhioHutcH Member Posts: 178

    The thing that gets me is the ones that body block with it or sit on a gen in your face right after unhook most of the time i go for the one that saved the one off the hook cause I like to make sure they get the points for a safe unhook. It just drives me a little nuts when the ones with DS are so blatant with it and try so hard to abuse it. But it is what it is.

  • OldHunterLight
    OldHunterLight Member Posts: 3,001

    The thing is that, sometimes it is harder to get them tormented than downing them.

    Really interesting view that the OP gave though.

  • PureHostility
    PureHostility Member Posts: 708
    edited July 2020

    Once you get out of green or purples and start playing against these decent ones that sometimes pop up on red ranks, you will understand how stupid your response is.


    The ds user that has it active will try their best to make sure you actually do go for them, such as either trying to take the aggro, by unhooked hiding, they will take you on a ride that either ends with them being slugged or in a locker or they will repair a gen in your face knowing you cant do anything to their 60 seconds of political immunity backed by Unbreakable (lose lose scenario).


    DS as anti tunnel is fine. 59 second ds after 2 other people were hooked in the meantime is completely bullcrap.


    Not to mention chaining DS and BT during EGC.

  • just_a_noob
    just_a_noob Member Posts: 247

    i do go up against red ranks all the time, i just adjust my play style accordingly.

    if they are actively trying their best to make sure you go for them then they likely haven't healed so slug them (they're 1 hit) and then keep going after the other person. i don't see that many people using unbreakable anyway. if they do have unbreakable then it is what it is, you'll still have them slugged and not on a gen for a certain amount of time. if someone decides to get them up while you are chasing someone else then thats 3 people that aren't on gens.

    if someone with ds intentionally jumps into a locker and the killer goes to grab them out then that's on the killer.

    if you are downing 3 people within 1 minute (having hooked 2 of them) then ds shouldn't be an issue. you obviously don't have a problem catching and downing survivors so even if someone uses it then you should still be able to catch them fairly quickly if they are getting downed as quickly as you say.

  • just_a_noob
    just_a_noob Member Posts: 247

    Or take in a mori, that will solve your ds and unbreakable issue as you don’t have to slug or pick up.