What would be your builds without meta perks?
If youre a killer main then give me your build on your favorite killer :)
So if this perks were banned what would you run on survivor and killer?
Survivor:
Adrenaline, Borrowed time, Iron Will, Sprint burst, Lithe, Head on, Balanced landing, Dead hard, Decisive Strike, Self care, Inner strength, we will make it, Unbreakable, Prove thyself, urban evasion, object of obsession, deliverance and spine chill.
Killer:
Noed, BBQ, Corrupt intervention, Safe the best for last, Devour hope, Ruin, Nurses calling, Thanatophobia, monitor and abuse, Pop goes the weasel, Rancor, Infectous fright, and of course the best perk of them all: monstrous shrine ;)
I know not all of this perks are meta, but I see all of them quite often and its my thread ;)
So these perks are banned. What would you run?
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Ill start:
Im a PH main since he came out and will stay on him and this would be my build:
Whispers, Dark Devotion, Tinkerer and thrilling tremors. I would go for undetecable hits with my ranged attack for easy pressure.
Survivor:
Dance with me, Quick and quiet, Fixated and Plunderers instinct.
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Assuming I have all perks unlocked :
Survivor : Ace in the Hole, Plunderer's Instinct, Empathy and Diversion.
Spirit : Surveillance, Surge, Sloppy Butcher and Deathbound.
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why did you have to ban Iron Will Dx
now i actually gotta come up with something...
okay, the first 3 perks are easy, as they are already part of my usual survivor build:
- Plunderers Instinct
- Ace In The Hole
- Kindred
now, since i have to replace Iron Will, which heavily restricts my stealth abilities, i will have to go with something different that allows me to get some other use. i was thinking about Botany Knowledge, as, if i get a medkit from a chest, i can get myself healed up in no time, making up for the loss of not making noise while injured.
However, other perks might benefit me aswell, especially those that reveal my fellow team to me i can go to when i need heals. Therefore i think Aftercare, Bond or Empathy would be good picks for that slot aswell.
now for killer, this one is definitely a lot more difficult, as you just banned away almost everything that slows down the game.
idk, Discordance is the only perk i can think of running 24/7 now... but without PGTW, Monitor and Nurses im gonna have a hard time tbh. at least PGTW and Monitor i run religiously on almost all my killers - Moitor could be replaced with Shadowborn though, that could work out. i still dont think i would really stand a chance against most without having any tool of slowing the game down (as you basically removed 95% of all the slow down tools i have), so maybe Thrilling Tremors, Surge or Dying Light would come in handy? however, im not a big fan of Dying Light, due to its heavy restrictions and buff it gives the obsession, aswell as its lack of earlygame pressure.
yeah im gonna stick with that for now: Discordance, Shadowborn, Thrilling Tremors and Surge. i would probaply not be able to play most of the killers i enjoy playing though, as the lack of perks to cover their weaknesses would make them even more unviable choices.
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Thanks :)
I have to ban the slow down perks because Without second chance perks of survivors it would be fair imo^^
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survivor : Bond, Kindred, Diversion, Autodidact
killer : surge, surveillance, lullaby, sloppy meat
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survivor i barely run meta i run wglf for the points , well make it i just like to use it , second wind , and usually resiliance with it
killer brutal strenght overcharge agitation make your choice
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Spirit: Make Your Choice(super underrated perk btw), Dark Devotion, BBQ, and PGTW
Survivor: Resilience, IW, We'll Make it, Kindred
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Wait why van rancor that isnt meta i think...
Well for killer; surge, trilling termors, sloppy, and last discordance.
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Some of these Perks are not meta, but i think If I ban all the second chance perks for survivors I should also ban insta down mori things^^
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Rancor meta, lol?
Survivor, I barely ever use strictly meta perks anyway, so slightly adjusting the perks:
1) Autodidact, Solidarity, Empathy, Calm Spirit.
2) Lightweight, Quick&Quiet, Dance With Me, Bond
Killer, that strictly depends on the killer itself, but general build:
Thrilling Tremors (it is meta btw), Brutal Strength, Surge, Survilence.
Discordance, Surge, Survilence, Thrilling.
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Mmm I already don't play with meta perks too much! On survivor I use
Second Wind
We'll Make It
Blood Pact
Botany Knowledge (I like healing c:)
And on killer I use (PH and Spirit)
Death Bound
Forced Penance
Surveillance
Brutal Strength!
I think any perk build can win if the player is good enough!
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I dont own PH yet (I wont buy any killers until BHVR fixes my rank update/reset error), but did you try out his ultra rare yet? I mean the one that gives you undetectable if you stand on a tormented trail. You seem to like the undetectable status and I can imagine that there are some creative ways to use it (especially against bt: just torment and stand on it, if they rescue in your face or being a basement camper without insidious) :)
Currently I'm running inner, dh, aftercare and botany. I know inner and dh are listed as "meta", but all exhaustion perks are somewhat meta. I replaced kindred with aftercare, you get so much value of it during the game. It's also nice that they can see you from any distance.
Killer: cant play killer, gave up (due to rank update error). But I'm guilty of using mostly meta perks, bc I'm too afraid of a match that ends in a few minutes.
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I already don't use meta perks too much on either side, so my typical Survivor build is Kindred, Windows of Opportunity, Pharmacy and Lightweight. By the way, Windows of Opportunity really is a great perk for avoiding dead zones, used pallets and planning out your escape route! 😛
And for Killer, I mainly play Nurse, Wraith and Deathslinger, so I would use Make Your Choice, Discordance, Iron Maiden and probably Knock Out or Brutal Strength. I usually use Monitor and Abuse on Nurse and Corrupt Intervention on Deathslinger, so I had to switch those out... but I always love using Iron Maiden (especially on Nurse and Wraith), and Discordance is base on nearly every Killer I play! Make Your Choice also comes in handy on all three, so I have been using it in every game as of late! And having a flat increase to breaking speeds is always nice with Brutal Strength.
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Empathy
Aftercare
Botany Knowledge
Kindred
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Survivor: Stakeout, Kindred, For The People and Small Game. Always take a Med-Kit
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Survivor: Stakeout, Kindred, For The People and Open Handed
Killer it depends.
Spirit: Sloppy Butcher (how is this not in your list? lol), Discordance, Surge, Stridor
Clown: Dark Devotion, Nemesis, Trails of Torment, Discordance
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Survivor:
Kindred, Botany Knowledge, Alert, Hope
Killer:
Play with your food, Nemesis, I'm all Ears, Discordance
That was a fun exercise, I wish they would do events like other games have, where certain perks are "banned" for a week or weekend, just to shake up the game a little.
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Killer:
Normally, I would have my fun obsession build, but as you banned Rancor for some reason, I have to abandon it.
I have been having fun with this build though: Forced Penance, Mad Grit, Blood echo, and Huntress Lullaby.
Forced Penance is actually a really good perk. There is no cooldown, and it tracks the progress of the last person who took a protection hit... and legion actually forces protection hits a lot with frenzy. It can replace the Legion Pin, and is more applicable in a match. Blood Echo and Mad grit go well for obvious reasons... but lullaby is my only gen perk. It also allows me to a hit more easily as they have to focus on the skill checks... if it works.
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So I actually like the idea of this thread but I have to ask how did NOEd, dyning light, sloppy and whispers not make your list of meta killer perks? I could almost see why dyning light, but the others... Just curious.
Killer:
- Pig: Spies, Brutal, Blood Warden/Cruel Limits, Trail of Torment
- Huntress: Bitter Murmer, Spies, Shadowborn, Iron Maiden
- Triangle Head: I already play him perkless
- Spirit: I already play her perkless
Survivor:
- Autodidact, Resilience, Leader and Prove Thyself
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Killer: Sloppy, TT, Gearhead, Enduring/Brutal Strength (Pig)
Survivor: Kindred, Bond/Empathy, BK, Streetwise (Feng Min)
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My Ghostface build:
Nemesis, Furtive Chase, Dead Man's Switch (because the alternative is Remember Me ugh...), and Rancor.
I've SURPRISINGLY found decent success with it but I really wish Dead Man's Switch worked differently...
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We can't include urban in meta I'm sorry lol
For survivor it would be Blood Pact, Autodidact, Aftercare and We're Gonna Live Forever
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Resilience (although I'd feel naked not running iron will with that, but it's an insanely good perk for experienced survivors), Kindred, Aftercare, Detective's Hunch
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For survivor my build would most likely be:
Aftercare
Alert
Quick and quiet
We'll make it
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Survivor:
Probably Aftercare, Distortion, Premonition and Dance With Me.
Killer:
Honestly if all of those perks were removed I'd probably quit Killer, but if I had to play Killer without those perks:
Dying Light, Discordance, Overcharge and Thrilling Tremors.
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head on is meta? 😔
my build would be: blood pact, autodidact, solidarity, second wind
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Damn no nurses? Messing up my Pyramid head build.
Normally for pyramid head I would do Deathbound, Nurses, I'm all ears, and Discordance but I think I could replace Nurses with Whispers.
On Ghostface I run Thrilling tremors, furtive chase, Whispers and Thrill of the hunt.
And lastly for Freddy I just run his adept. Fire up, blood warden, and remember me. Occasionally I run Noed to help with the end game but I usually never need it lol
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Well noed and prove thyself are on the list^^
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I already run Pharmacy and We're Gonna Live Forever. Probably Soul Guard? I think that might be a bit too meta though. Any Means Necessary, Poised, Red Herring, Alert, and Ace in the Hole are other choices.
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For PH who I am currently messing around with something like Zanshin Tactics I’m All Ears Trail Of Torment and Surveillance let’s me zone them easier see my shots through walls and the last combo makes me go undetectable but will no longer turn the gen yellow cuz of surv
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As survivor it wouldn't really change: I'd keep the Head On, Quick and Quiet, and Detective's Hunch.
For the final perk, I'd probably chuck on Dance With Me to keep the synergy going.
As killer, it'd be a lot worse since I love STBFL and PGTW. I'd have Surge and Surveillance together to form the main base of my build, map control, and probably throw on Thrilling Tremours too. For the final perk, maybe Enduring since I love how it helps in a chase.
Actual builds:
Head On, Q&Q, Dance With Me, Detective's Hunch
Surve, Surveillance, Thrilling Tremours, Enduring
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