Should I be allowed to grief players who I feel aren't contributing?

Nos37

If I see a survivor only trying to ensure their own survival and not everyone's survival, and feel they aren't up to my standards of helpful or useful, can I just grief them out of the game by failing skill checks on their gens, creating loud notifications using vaults or lockers near them, or getting the killer's attention and kiting the killer to them?

I mean, I know the game rules state that I cannot grief, but I have good reason and should not be punished, right?

Game Rules> Temporary Ban> Griefing: Intentional Gameplay Abuse> "Working with the killer to gain an unfair advantage or to grief another player."

It's not like the following excerpt is easily accessible or posted on the Loading Screens, so how else am I to assume that this 4v1 game is not really a true "team game," and that survivors don't have to make sure everyone escapes, so long as they are not inactive or griefing?

"The Survivors are a team of 4. They can choose to cooperate or to look out for themselves." - Help & Tutorials> The Game> Assymetry

Seiko300

You should not be griefing anyone under any circumstances, how about that.

Because if you add stipulations like "oh you can grief people as long as..." then people are going to twist and manipulate whatever those conditions are to allow them to grief whenever. All in the name of a sorry excuse of "he was griefing, so I began griefing" soon everyone is griefing leading to a cycle that's not fun for anyone.

The in-game systems that are currently in place will take care of them. Idleness crows will catch the attention of a killer, and the report system is sufficient enough to punish people who don't play by the rules.

Nos37

No, so long as they are not inactive or griefing, they can play as they please

@Seiko300

But when the Legion hooked me I saw a survivor with Deep Wounds just running circles in the basement instead of mending themself or repairing gens. They aren't technically inactive, as it seems they're simply trying to hide their killer instinct aura from the Legion by never mending the Deep Wounds status away, but they seem to be set on running circles until all of us are dead so they use the hatch to escape.

So what if I led the killer to the basement?

Edit: I am not admitting to griefing. I am using a scenario to see if griefing was justified. I was that survivor endlessly running circles in the basement. On three sepearate occasions today, against the Legion, I ran into the basement after the Legion applied Deep Wounds and ran off. I was actively trying to keep the Legion's killer instinct from giving away my position by keeping Deep Wounds applied, and was actively trying to avoid being put into the dying state by running endlessly (the basement being the safest option). On all 3 occasions, other survivors who had seen my aura, kited the killer to the basement.

Seiko300

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1422458#Comment_1422458

It's not a suggestion it's a statement. Don't grief other players. If you feel that strongly what they did was wrong report them

Simple as that.

Nos37

No, so long as they are not inactive or griefing, they can play as they please

I have, on all 3 ocassions. It just seemed to me like what they were doing was normal and justified. Why else would it keep happening every time. I wanted to poll the community to see if that is normal.

Vox_Nocturne

No, so long as they are not inactive or griefing, they can play as they please

By griefing them, you are in essence doing the same amount of damage as they are. Perhaps worse, as there are now 2 of you messing about instead of 1.